Hows this stack look?

[song_malicious]

Just wondering what you guys thought of this stack.

250mg/ week of Test "Prop"

500mg/ week of Deca

350mg/ week of Winstrol

(We have all the clomid and nolvadex needed)

I'm asking becuase I wasn't sure if I needed more test to make a difference. From what I read, 350mg/week was the norm. But I only have enough to go 250/week, so let me know. Thanks

[klab55]

get more. Post experience etc.

[emt634]

whats your stats how many weeks on each do you plan

[song_malicious]

I'm going about 10 weeks of everything in total. Would it be better to squeeze it all into 8 weeks instead? I'm 6'4" 215lbs (QB-WR) (17-18% BF) my training partner is taking same thing and he's 6'0" 165lbs (13-14% BF) (S-CB)

[emt634]

dude you gota lot of home work to do that cycle is a mess winny that long is going to kill your liver and it makes your tendons brittle and your a football player your going to get hurt bro use the search button up top and look at cycles and pct other members on hear use

[emt634]

by the way how old are you

[song_malicious]

I'm 24 (Senior) He's 23 (Junior) I forgot to mention that I also have Liv52. Also, I'm not really in position to get anything else and I'm at a point in the season where I don't have a whole lot of time to try to get something else. Am I better off not taking the cycle at all?

[emt634]

i honestly dont think you have the knowledge to run a cycle safely yet be patient read as much as you can there is lots of good info on hear start with the a-z for neewbies its alot to read but if your serious about using aas you should read it mabye read it twice ----------------- prop should taken eod, winny shouldnt be ran any longer than 6weeks 4imo, deca should be stopped two weeks prior to your last test injection------ deca and prop dosent make any sense save the deca for a bulking cycle

[song_malicious]

I think your right. I'll make sure to read a-z. I was told that Test "Prop" went well with Deca. I think I may have gotten some bad info. Thanks for all the help. Seriously.

[tdizzle28]

You really don't have the knowledge yet, if you read some of the stickies over there and steroid profiles, you will be better informed...if you're a dummy like most of us are at one point or another and are going to run it anyway, drop the deca, it is a long acting esther and should be run around 12 weeks minimum...you would be better with NPP which is the short acting version of deca. But the cycle makes no sense anyway, are you trying to cut or bulk? "Normally" deca is used with bulking cycles. 6 weeks of test prop and winstrol wouldn't be bad for a cutter, but be ready for some muscle ache.

And you need to shed some BF before proceeding, at 17-18% you have a greater risk for developing gyno and you for sure won't notice the results as well. Get your diet in check and do some reading, then proceed...that's JMO, I'm sure you are going to do what you want to do anyway.

[song_malicious]

I was actually looking to increase in size and speed but dropping some fat, but I can't afford to lose arm strength or upper body strenght. So, moving up to about 225-230 but losing 10-15 lbs of fat. Somewhere near 11-12 % BF would be nice. After some reading I'm starting to realize that there isn't really any way to gain muscle through deca and burn fat through winny, like I thought. I'm glad I talked to you guys. I'm probably gonna go with a cutting cycle that leans more toward the Test prop and winstrol. I've been looking into Tren, but they said that for experienced users. That's definately not me. Maybe I can take it at half potentcy or something. idk. What I have is 3 10ml bottle of Test prop (100mg/ml), 2 10ml bottle deca (250mg/ml), 75 (50 mg) pill of winstrol and have access to one bottle of Tren (10ml). I have plenty of clomid and nolvadex and have Liv52. This may just not be the combination of gear that I need, but if you guys could recommend the best possible scenario then I would appreciate it. Thanks

[emt634]

you could jus give your gear to me i will take care of it lol if your bf is 13 or below your goals could be obtained better with a bulking cycle whats your stats -putem in your sig

[joe4fsu]

Song in all honesty.. when you are ready.. you want to do it off season... you should have your spring semester for bulking/strength gaining then the summer pre-2 a days a cutting cycle to get lean IMO

I would definately not start this late in the season #1, #2 winstrol is going to cause injury as aforementioned... stick with creatine for the remainder of the season... if you want to put in an order during the break for bowls do that.. bulk up the spring..

and BTW the test concentration is too low and the lengths of deca vs. test are off....

you know what you have to do....

[zidane9979]

I was actually looking to increase in size and speed but dropping some fat, but I can't afford to lose arm strength or upper body strenght. So, moving up to about 225-230 but losing 10-15 lbs of fat. Somewhere near 11-12 % BF would be nice. After some reading I'm starting to realize that there isn't really any way to gain muscle through deca and burn fat through winny, like I thought. I'm glad I talked to you guys. I'm probably gonna go with a cutting cycle that leans more toward the Test prop and winstrol. I've been looking into Tren, but they said that for experienced users. That's definately not me. Maybe I can take it at half potentcy or something. idk. What I have is 3 10ml bottle of Test prop (100mg/ml), 2 10ml bottle deca (250mg/ml), 75 (50 mg) pill of winstrol and have access to one bottle of Tren (10ml). I have plenty of clomid and nolvadex and have Liv52. This may just not be the combination of gear that I need, but if you guys could recommend the best possible scenario then I would appreciate it. Thanks

when you do cycle look into DHT's with test, DHTs' are great for leaning out because they work better with decreased calories.. good luck bro and remember stay away from winnie and tren...... primo , masteron are some good ones

[Alin]

Just wondering what you guys thought of this stack.

250mg/ week of Test "Prop"

500mg/ week of Deca

350mg/ week of Winstrol

(We have all the clomid and nolvadex needed)

I'm asking becuase I wasn't sure if I needed more test to make a difference. From what I read, 350mg/week was the norm. But I only have enough to go 250/week, so let me know. Thanks

150mg TEST PROP EOD
400mg DECA wk
50-100mg WINSTROL daily.

[tpd01883]

Deca and winny stack well together actually. Winny gives some decent strength gains without putting on a ton of weight, deca lubes up the joints so you don't feel the massive winny joint aches as bad, if at all.

10 weeks on winstrol is a bit long. 10 weeks on deca is a bit short.

Also deca takes roughly 4 weeks to leave your system enough for your normal HPTA function to recover. So you need to make sure you have test in your system during that time or you'll be wondering whats happening w/ your dick and why your balls arn't coming back...So if you're using prop you'd need to go 14 weeks on the prop w/ 10 weeks of deca. With enanthate or cypionate you could only go 12 weeks as they take about 2-3 weeks to leave your system.

I would run the cycle thus if it was me.

Test enanthate or cypionate 500mg / week weeks 1-14
Nand Decanoate 500mg / week 1-12
Winstrol 1-8 100mg ed

Might only wanna go 6 weeks on the winny if you like your liver, but 8 most likely wouldn't kill you...we hope.