Oral only very happy.

[trmtiger]

Hey guys after doing lots of research I decided on a oral Tbol and Winny 6 week cycle(needle issues. I know, I know, dont say it) I went 50mg each daily. I was expecting the worst with sexual side effects and nut shrinkage. I have 1 week left and have had no sides. If anything i was even more ready for action. I am 40 yrs old and was just looking for a boost in the gym and added motivation. I had done a few cycles as a young man and remembered the great results. My body has really made some dramatic changes, and also I have had considerable strength gains. My results have been lean and no water puff and I am starting to see some vascularity. I could not be happier with my results so far. Hopefully I can keep the majority of my gains. I have been taking the Liv 52 to help protect my liver, but have not had any test taken. I just wanted to share my results with the board.

[juced_porkchop]

how many lbs have u gaine at week 5 sofar??

i love tbol.
but man if u go 250mgtestcyp 250mg deca wk1-14 and tbol wk1-5 you should be much happier.

you do plan on doing some kind of PCT right??
if so what?

i think 3 weeks of nolva at 20mg ed would be anuff for this short cycle.

ps. im not for oral only cycle but to each his own.

[joe4fsu]

post pre-cycle wt bf% and 2days wt bf%

[bigbrownmab]

i hope you have a pct, tbol is a form of test

[drob29]

. Hopefully I can keep the majority of my gains..

Chances are in 3 months you will lose most (over 75%) of your gains. This is why oral only cycles suck.

At 40 YO you should have done a test E only, 12 weeks, 500 mg/wk, with clomid/nolvadex PCTm, assuming your stats show that your ready, and your diet is where it should be.

[mxcx]

Hey guys after doing lots of research I decided on a oral Tbol and Winny 6 week cycle(needle issues. I know, I know, dont say it) I went 50mg each daily. I was expecting the worst with sexual side effects and nut shrinkage. I have 1 week left and have had no sides. If anything i was even more ready for action. I am 40 yrs old and was just looking for a boost in the gym and added motivation. I had done a few cycles as a young man and remembered the great results. My body has really made some dramatic changes, and also I have had considerable strength gains. My results have been lean and no water puff and I am starting to see some vascularity. I could not be happier with my results so far. Hopefully I can keep the majority of my gains. I have been taking the Liv 52 to help protect my liver, but have not had any test taken. I just wanted to share my results with the board.

give us an update in 5 or 6 wks ;) :rolleyes:

[superbeast22]

oral only is great. sometimes you just dont want pussy all over your cock.

[juced_porkchop]

oral only is great. sometimes you just dont want pussy all over your cock.

I DO! and my FACE! was that the test talking?:eek: i unno but i dun care :-P

[fishboy]

oral only is great. sometimes you just dont want pussy all over your cock.

LMAO:D:D

[tpd01883]

i hope you have a pct, tbol is a form of test

Tbol is an androgen, that does not make it a form of test. Testosterone enanthate is a form of test, as is testosterone cypionate. Anything that binds the the androgen receptor and activates it is not 'a form of test'. Don't post rediculous, and stupid shit trying to sound like you know what you're talking about.

[bigbrownmab]

Oral Turinabol is a derivative of testosterone.. Oh yeah got that directly from its steroid profile. Which a shit load of scientist came up with. Last time i checked in the dictonary derivative meant in chemistry terms.. A compound derived or obtained from another and containing essential elements of the parent substance. Which in english has parts of it, therefore making it a type or form of well just as the profile says testorterone

[superbeast22]

bigbrown, tbol is a DERIVATIVE. it is not test... dbol is a DHT derivative... it is NOT DHT. dont feed these good people rubbish.

[bigbrownmab]

Pharmaceutical Name:4-dehydromethyltestosterone
Chemical Name:4-chloro-17a-methyl-17bhydroxyandrosta-1,4-dien-3-one
Cutting/Bulking: Both
Anabolic Rating:
Active Life:16 hours
Drug Class:Anabolic Androgenic Steroid (oral)
Average reported dose: (Men) 40-60mgs/day (Women) 10mgs/day
Acne:No
Water Retention: No
HIgh Blood Pressure: No
Liver Toxic: No
DHT Conversion: Possible
Decreases HPTA Function: Mild
Aromatization: Not likely

Ok so obviously im reading this wrong, which part of it saying..Pharmaceutical Name:4-dehydromethyltestosterone, and that DHT conversion is possable. Which part of that am i not understanding, im no chemist so please do inform me

[PitViper33]

maybe i can clear this up for u brown, anabolic steroids are derivates of the male hormone test.,,, (((except test esters, <enth, prop cyp> which consist of the actual test molecule,test suspension which is pure no ester attached.) what this means is that anabolic steroids are chemical cousins of testosterone, but technically, are not testosterone. in other words, they are slightly chemically different than the testosterone found in our bodies.

as for dht , every single anabolic steroid has some androgenic properties. it is just how much. to complicate this situation, primo and winny are both dht derivatives. this means that they are close enough in chemical structure to act like dht in the body, even though they are not known as androgenic drugs.

so this is what superbeast was telling u in a long form i think.

[bigbrownmab]

see broken down in clear english with an explanation, just how i like. Now with that said and how i read it directly from what it was saying, you can way i said what i said. Im not spreading rubish, i said what i read.

[WorryWart]

Chances are in 3 months you will lose most (over 75%) of your gains. This is why oral only cycles suck.

At 40 YO you should have done a test E only, 12 weeks, 500 mg/wk, with clomid/nolvadex PCTm, assuming your stats show that your ready, and your diet is where it should be.

Yep! Say,"Bon Voyage" to what you have gained and welcome,"What a waste of time". This has happened to me many times. My weight gets to 230lb-240lb. on orals and after the orals are ended back to 190lb.! In a matter of weeks. So, to avert this from happening ever again I use injectables to keep a little something on me.

[carteblanche83]

Hey I dont want to hijack here, but if someone absolutely had to do orals only. (no not myself) Wouldn't a cutter be better suited until they could get some injectables?

[juced_porkchop]

no thats just stupid. cut in diet . usein steroids to cut when u have never even bulked with them is somthing iv never even herd of.

[bryan101b]

Chances are in 3 months you will lose most (over 75%) of your gains. This is why oral only cycles suck.

yea, chances are, but the right research, pct, training, diet done right it can be a solid cycle.


[QUOTE=tpd01883;221558]Tbol is an androgen, that does not make it a form of test. Testosterone enanthate is a form of test, as is testosterone cypionate. Anything that binds the the androgen receptor and activates it is not 'a form of test'. Don't post rediculous, and stupid shit trying to sound like you know what you're talking about.


I think he thought that because O.t. is 4-chlorodehydromethyltestosterone. (a dehydro version of testosterone)
the idea makes sense to me. like you said, "Don't post rediculous, and stupid shit trying to sound like you know what you're talking about"

[PushTheLimits]

Hey guys after doing lots of research I decided on a oral Tbol and Winny 6 week cycle(needle issues. I know, I know, dont say it) I went 50mg each daily. I was expecting the worst with sexual side effects and nut shrinkage. I have 1 week left and have had no sides. If anything i was even more ready for action. I am 40 yrs old and was just looking for a boost in the gym and added motivation. I had done a few cycles as a young man and remembered the great results. My body has really made some dramatic changes, and also I have had considerable strength gains. My results have been lean and no water puff and I am starting to see some vascularity. I could not be happier with my results so far. Hopefully I can keep the majority of my gains. I have been taking the Liv 52 to help protect my liver, but have not had any test taken. I just wanted to share my results with the board.

Pussy! Pin up! :D

[WorryWart]

Pussy! Pin up! :D

Why not continue to do the orals then "pussy up to the pin!? LOL

[Alin]

Hey guys after doing lots of research I decided on a oral Tbol and Winny 6 week cycle(needle issues. I know, I know, dont say it) I went 50mg each daily. I was expecting the worst with sexual side effects and nut shrinkage. I have 1 week left and have had no sides. If anything i was even more ready for action. I am 40 yrs old and was just looking for a boost in the gym and added motivation. I had done a few cycles as a young man and remembered the great results. My body has really made some dramatic changes, and also I have had considerable strength gains. My results have been lean and no water puff and I am starting to see some vascularity. I could not be happier with my results so far. Hopefully I can keep the majority of my gains. I have been taking the Liv 52 to help protect my liver, but have not had any test taken. I just wanted to share my results with the board.

keep us posted. I would have suggested some testosterone along with your cycle. you will look better,,feel better and just make far better gains.