View Full Version : Why is Propinate making me sick?
soxbighurt
09-20-2008, 02:58 PM
I have been taking propinate and winstrol for 4 weeks and this propinate is killing me. Everytime I inject it leaves a bump under my skin for 4-5 days and it hurts like hell, and I have been to the doctor 3 times because I can't get rid of this sinus infection. Am I just not cut out to take propinate? or is this all in my head? Funny thing is if I work out after I inject the area does not hurt as bad. Any advice for me?
Have you tried taking benedryl or another type of antihistamine?
Try that and see if it helps.
joe4fsu
09-20-2008, 04:11 PM
Describe your injection procedure including pre-pin prep, describe your pin guage and length... also add the location of your pinning (butt, lats, delts)
thym43
09-20-2008, 04:42 PM
I used to have Major issues with prop. to the point I thought I was simply allergic to it. Hard to tell you, eventually after a few flus and numerous knots in my ass and delts my body adapted to it. Just for shits and grins though as Joe said, describe your protcols for pinning.
joe4fsu
09-20-2008, 06:15 PM
I used to have Major issues with prop. to the point I thought I was simply allergic to it. Hard to tell you, eventually after a few flus and numerous knots in my ass and delts my body adapted to it. Just for shits and grins though as Joe said, describe your protcols for pinning.
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I have been taking propinate and winstrol for 4 weeks and this propinate is killing me. Everytime I inject it leaves a bump under my skin for 4-5 days and it hurts like hell, and I have been to the doctor 3 times because I can't get rid of this sinus infection. Am I just not cut out to take propinate? or is this all in my head? Funny thing is if I work out after I inject the area does not hurt as bad. Any advice for me?
a few % of people have problems with PROP ester pain,,,you may be one of them.
soxbighurt
09-21-2008, 05:12 AM
I use 25 gauge needles one inch long. I sterilize the site before injection and use a new clean needle every time. I have injected in the butt, the outer quad the teardrop and all three heads of the delt. They all have hurt like hell, and they all formed a knot for 3-5 days and took forever to go away
ejones9501
09-21-2008, 05:25 AM
I have been taking propinate and winstrol for 4 weeks and this propinate is killing me. Everytime I inject it leaves a bump under my skin for 4-5 days and it hurts like hell, and I have been to the doctor 3 times because I can't get rid of this sinus infection. Am I just not cut out to take propinate? or is this all in my head? Funny thing is if I work out after I inject the area does not hurt as bad. Any advice for me?
every time i would inject winni i would get flu like symptoms. last about 24 -36 hours i would feel better than it was time for my winni shot i would get sick again. took bout 2 weeks to figure out that every time i would pin it i would get sick . stoped the winni and was not sick any more.
currently im on stealth prop @ 150 mg eod no problems with sickness.. so i would try cutting the winni out b4 i stoped the prop.:D
ejones9501
09-21-2008, 05:28 AM
[QUOTE=soxbighurt;220573]I use 25 gauge needles one inch long. I sterilize the site before injection and use a new clean needle every time. I have injected in the butt, the outer quad the teardrop and all three heads of the delt. They all have hurt like hell, and they all formed a knot for 3-5 days and took forever to go away[/QUOT
soxbighurt
09-21-2008, 10:10 AM
The problem is definately the prop. I stopped it for 5 days after about two weeks and the sickness went away, now I have been back on for 10 days and it is back, I have been on antibiotics twice and all kinds of cold medicine. I have taken winny before with no problems but I have never taken prop until now. I guess I might just be one of the small % of people who are allergic to this. I really don't feel like riding it out to see if it goes away because I can't even train right now I feel so bad. Plus the pain in the knots hurts like hell.
tpd01883
09-21-2008, 11:38 AM
I have been taking propinate and winstrol for 4 weeks and this propinate is killing me. Everytime I inject it leaves a bump under my skin for 4-5 days and it hurts like hell, and I have been to the doctor 3 times because I can't get rid of this sinus infection. Am I just not cut out to take propinate? or is this all in my head? Funny thing is if I work out after I inject the area does not hurt as bad. Any advice for me?
OK, First things first your question. Heat the syringes under a hot tap for 2 minutes, feel the out side of the syringe where the oil is contained, it should feel good and warm. Now switch needle and inject.
The sinus infection is most likely due to an inflamatory response. I would bet that you don't even have a major out of control infection, and thats why antibiotics arn't working. Test increases your immune response.(sounds like a good thing right?) Well if your body over reacts too much, you can get inflamation. Allergies are an immune response that cause inflamation and itching through histamine release. Try taking powerful antihistamines for a week or two. Doccylamine succinate and Diphenhydramine are the two best ones. Take 25mg Diphenhydramine at noon and 50 about an hour before bed.
This will hopefully only cause minimal drowsyness. The diphenhyrdamine(benadryl) might help with injection pain too, as frequently this is also related to an over release of hystamines. Your other option would be to talk to a doctor about getting prednisone. And try taking a low dose after injections. Although prednisone is highly catabolic, a low dose probably wouldn't hurt, but you never know.
cpesloco
09-23-2008, 06:04 PM
Change gear, yours could be bad. You do not want to be taking antibiotics your whole cycle.
Have you ever taken Sust? it has prop. how was your reaction?
Have you tried taking benedryl or another type of antihistamine?
Try that and see if it helps.
I told you this 2 days ago, 1st response to your post.
Have you tried any antihistamines yet? If not, what are you waiting for?
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