pain in the ass

[novation]

anybody had injection issues with balkan tren e?....3 days ago i put 2cc in my glute and still iv got an ass the size of a beach ball and it hurts like a mother fucker.iv used gear from many different labs before but this is my first try with the balkan tren.i dont think its an infection,iv done hundreds of shots and never had a problem with it.i think its the gear itself,maybe the b,a content but iv never had this much pain from such a small shot before,i will brave it and jab the other glute in 2 days and see what happens with that......anyone with any similar problems with this gear please holla back!!

[yafu]

Never used it before
Take an anti-histamine, should help

Try this:

Inject the oil into a vial and bake it for 10 minutes at 200 with a pin in the cap to let the air out. The alcohol should evaporate out.

[rhinofight]

Hasn't this baking thing been shot down multiple times? I thought you cannot reach BA's flashpoint in a conventional oven and you risk damaging the gear. It doesn't work...I believe that is the consensus, but it would be great if it did. I had horrible, debilitating pain and swelling from the stealth test p and npp. After a couple of weeks I guess my body got used to the foreign substance and stopped having the reaction. I still don't know if it's the BA or something else. I do know the gear works though. =/

[yafu]

I think it works for some and not for others.
I got pain from Stealth (ST450) but got used to it eventually.
Personally it's too much work for me, I just put the syringes in a ziplock bag and run under hot water.

[novation]

well i cant put up with a whole cycle of feeling like iv been shot in the ass with a harpoon gun so anything is worth a try.will see how the next one goes.maybe il try mixing my test with it.

[georgefrompa]

i heated mine up.. didnt do a thing.. boiled it on the stove in water with a pin out the top as a vent... waste of time. maybe its the high ph in the apricot oil... who knows

[yafu]

Definitely mix with test
I'd still try benedryl asap.
Will help you sleep too

[Markosterone]

shit, im about to start a cycle with tren E and test E, hope i dont get this f*cked up pain...

got it from the Stealt ST450, man that was painful...

[paulwc]

As for heating Stealth, what's the point of BA's flash point? It's the boiling point that's of concern, isn't it?

At 172 F deg, it'll boil off, and if given a way out, will escape to some amount or another. Since it takes a bit of time for a container of liquid to come up to temperature, the various recommendations of 200-250 deg for 15 - 20 min would likely heat the contents to above the needed temp for BA to boil off, and if the vials are almost completely full, the gas has to go somewhere- like up and out of the needle.

Worth a shot for those with pain, as is diluting with appropriate cutting oils or Eq.

[joe4fsu]

Ok chemical engineer, oh wait, that is me, the BOILING POINT Benzyl Alchohol is 205 deg C not F!!!! no oven can reach 205 deg Celcius... do some homeowrk before you open your mouth

[joe4fsu]

anybody had injection issues with balkan tren e?....3 days ago i put 2cc in my glute and still iv got an ass the size of a beach ball and it hurts like a mother fucker.iv used gear from many different labs before but this is my first try with the balkan tren.i dont think its an infection,iv done hundreds of shots and never had a problem with it.i think its the gear itself,maybe the b,a content but iv never had this much pain from such a small shot before,i will brave it and jab the other glute in 2 days and see what happens with that......anyone with any similar problems with this gear please holla back!!

Cut with oil, benadryl thats it unfortunately

[paulwc]

Ok chemical engineer, oh wait, that is me, the BOILING POINT Benzyl Alchohol is 205 deg C not F!!!! no oven can reach 205 deg Celcius... do some homeowrk before you open your mouth

OK mister smarty pants, point taken. I'd mistakenly ASSuMEd that the boiling point was the same as Ethanol.

So, care to take a stab at explaining the apparent reduction in injection pain by those that have heated their Stealth or other injectables known for causing pain?

Placebo? Or possibly other factors involved.

[joe4fsu]

will warming it make it easier to take initially... sure but once the BA makes contact with the muscle and the like it will cool down to the in-situ temperature.. your body still has to absorb the BA... everyone has different thresholds for pain... but looking at the facts... BA does not burn or boil off in a conventional oven.. thus over time the discomfort or pain gets less as your body becaomes accustom to it...

ask around if people that are on a 14 week cycle of stealth are whinning after week 13 as they did on week 2

[Matt Rock]

Ok chemical engineer, oh wait, that is me, the BOILING POINT Benzyl Alchohol is 205 deg C not F!!!! no oven can reach 205 deg Celcius... do some homeowrk before you open your mouth

Hmmm, that's funny, my oven goes to 260 deg C/ 500 deg F...

But since you have already done your homework before opening YOUR mouth. "no oven can reach 205 deg C"

Someone must have painted those fucking numbers on there! All this time I thought I could broil shit.

What is the boiling point of foot in mouth? ;)


Back to the topic... Taking an antihistamine and cutting with a sterile oil of your choice can help take the edge off.

[joe4fsu]

I can stand corrected when I have to... I was off on my conversion from deg C to Deg F... I went off the top of my head versus conveting it.. so a conventioned oven can reach the boiling point of BA...

in this light, I would not recommend baking stealth in the sachet, but transfter to a vial where it can "burn off"...

[paulwc]

My experience has been with BP Test E alone and mixed with Stealth Eq. No prob w/ either.

Getting ready to launch into another cycle with Stealth Test Cyp and Eq- and for anyone else out there, using Eq to cut it would be a simple and beneficial way to cut, as opposed to sterile oils.

[bmx5656]

I put my gear in a glass of very hot water for 10min, then take about 3 full min to inject it all. Been working like a fcuking charm. The gf doesn't know I'm on gear anymore because there's not baseballs in my ass. Plus when I sit down I can sit as if I wasent fcuked in the ass all night.

[klab55]

u know what it feels like 2 be fucked in the ass all night?

[bmx5656]

Set myself up for that one...but for the record no I don't.

[moser302]

read the post about 450, said he tested it and it had histimines in it said he took Benadryl same day as injection and 2 days after and didn't have pain, haven't tried it yet, but will soon

[moser302]

here is what he posted:

so guys, all this discussion lately about the pain of the stealth product line really got my curious. so, i brought some of the products into a chemistry lab at my old college and worked with one of the bio-medical students to figure out what was up. it turns out, the stealth line is histamenic. meaning, it has histamines. it varies in strength per package, and it also varies on how it reacts with people, depending on their sensitivity to allergies. the reason for the swelling and pain is because the histamines play a role in the chemotaxis of blood cells. i.e., in sensitive people, bacteria from our body are directing their movements towards the histamine. (which is centrally located wherever we inject, thats why as the muscle starts to absorb the AAS and the pooling of the AAS dissipates, so does the swelling)

its very technical, and that is the lamen explanation, but there is a simple solution for anyone having problem. for the day you have your injection and 1-2 days after, just take benadryl or an anti-histamine. i've tried it, and it works like a charm now.
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