First Time Test-Cyp Cycle

[icefreeze]

Age: 20 (I'm almost 21, and haven't grown in over 3 years, please don't bring this up)
Weight: 168
Height: 5'10
BF: 14% -- hoping to cut down a bit more

I'm starting my first test-cyp cycle for 10 weeks. I already have my pct lined up, but I'm just wondering how often I should inject and how much each time? I heard you can do with a single weekly injection, but isn't it better to inject twice a week, and if so, how much each injection? I'm thinking 500mg/weekly.

I also am doing this cycle to lose a little bf, while gaining some quality muscle, so I plan on keeping my diet clean and doing some cardio religiously. So should I take the adex, .25mged or .5eod? I really want to minimize the bloat that happens while on this stuff.

For the record, I'd rather be lean and cut, than be huge. So is the dosage and length of time appropriate, or should I cut back? I really don't want to be big and bulky at all.

Thanks.

[BigEast]

alot of guys will tell u not to cycle but if you want to IMO you either bulk or cut not both. at your weight it seems like u dont have much to "cut" anyway i would say bulk for know try to gain 20lbs get close to 200 then you have a better base to work with.

[icefreeze]

Thanks bigeast. Can anyone else contribute?

[goalie]

In my opinion and experience, when starting a workout program (whether it be a diet, cycle, or a training regimen) you have to lay out your goals. You either bulk or cut, it doesn't happen simultaneously. Muscle just doesn't appear. You need to gain weight to gain muscle, then it is time to cut back. Just my 2 cents.

Btw, the test cyp will be best for adding some lbs, and i'd go 250mg pinned 2x week (mon & thurs). Start armidex a .25mg ed 2 weeks before cycle. See how it goes from there

and your "bloat" on cycle, will also be determined largely on diet and cardio

good luck bro

[klab55]

im 20 also.. and im going to be honest

how can you think your ready for a cycle... at under 170 there is no way your training and deit are on point and it would be one thing if you were 170 shredded but your bf isnt ideal either... the truth is you should wait and train natural at least for another 6 months , i PROMISE it will be worth it

[sliva32]

guys here are giving some solid advice...klab is right on point with his post. If you eat right and train hard for a few months before you start you will notice tons, then start your cycle you will be more happy with the results later down the road.

[drob29]

Age: 20 (I'm almost 21, and haven't grown in over 3 years, please don't bring this up)
Weight: 168
Height: 5'10BF: 14% -- hoping to cut down a bit more

I'm starting my first test-cyp cycle for 10 weeks. I already have my pct lined up, but I'm just wondering how often I should inject and how much each time? I heard you can do with a single weekly injection, but isn't it better to inject twice a week, and if so, how much each injection? I'm thinking 500mg/weekly.

I also am doing this cycle to lose a little bf, while gaining some quality muscle, so I plan on keeping my diet clean and doing some cardio religiously. So should I take the adex, .25mged or .5eod? I really want to minimize the bloat that happens while on this stuff.

For the record, I'd rather be lean and cut, than be huge. So is the dosage and length of time appropriate, or should I cut back? I really don't want to be big and bulky at all.

Thanks.

You dont have a fuckin clue
Your too light. your LBM is 144 lbs
Your too young
You dont know when/how much to inject (WTF)
your doing this cycle to lose bf :eek:LOLOLOL and gain "quality muscle"
Your an idiot if you run that cycle now
You dont have a fuckin clue

fuckin 5 ft 10 168 lbs your just a skinny kid. SKINNY. Its people like this that piss me off. Yeah, steroids are a great idea for you. What you want is to look lean and cut without the effort. idiot.

guys here are giving some solid advice...klab is right on point with his post. If you eat right and train hard for a few months before you start you will notice tons, then start your cycle you will be more happy with the results later down the road.

A few months or a few years, whichever is longer. You need to eat right and train hard for a few years, then you'll be in a better position to run a cycle. But, for chist sake, not now.

It's people like this who run cycles when they have no business doing so that give AAS a bad name.

[jdee297]

I think also if you are set on running something, save the test for later and get one of the newer phs. Most phs will be great for a first timer. I put 10lbs on in one month and it also cut down a bit of fat without even trying. Just my advice.

Iv done a bunch of ph cycles and gained at least 10lbs on most of the cycles. I did this for a couple of years and am now ready for aas. This will also give you more time to really learn all you can about aas use.

[sliva32]

You dont have a fuckin clue
Your too light. your LBM is 144 lbs
Your too young
You dont know when/how much to inject (WTF)
your doing this cycle to lose bf :eek:LOLOLOL and gain "quality muscle"
Your an idiot if you run that cycle now
You dont have a fuckin clue

fuckin 5 ft 10 168 lbs your just a skinny kid. SKINNY. Its people like this that piss me off. Yeah, steroids are a great idea for you. What you want is to look lean and cut without the effort. idiot.



A few months or a few years, whichever is longer. You need to eat right and train hard for a few years, then you'll be in a better position to run a cycle. But, for chist sake, not now.

It's people like this who run cycles when they have no business doing so that give AAS a bad name.

I meant a few years..there drob, your 100% right. I missed his stats was still thinking another post where the guy was 5'8" 195lb...my bad...but the advice to eat big and train hard and put on weight natrually is the best way to go!

[joe4fsu]

Age: 20 (I'm almost 21, and haven't grown in over 3 years, please don't bring this up)
Weight: 168
Height: 5'10
BF: 14% -- hoping to cut down a bit more

I'm starting my first test-cyp cycle for 10 weeks. I already have my pct lined up, but I'm just wondering how often I should inject and how much each time? I heard you can do with a single weekly injection, but isn't it better to inject twice a week, and if so, how much each injection? I'm thinking 500mg/weekly.

I also am doing this cycle to lose a little bf, while gaining some quality muscle, so I plan on keeping my diet clean and doing some cardio religiously. So should I take the adex, .25mged or .5eod? I really want to minimize the bloat that happens while on this stuff.

For the record, I'd rather be lean and cut, than be huge. So is the dosage and length of time appropriate, or should I cut back? I really don't want to be big and bulky at all.

Thanks.

Tall and Skinny guys are not made for gear... its the biggest waste of money and all you will get is 1/2" added to your lanky arms and what about your TWIG legs? 144 lbm... you are a rail... tall... but a rail

Go play some basketball and take creatine... its cheaper and probably more effective... gear is not the answer... but since I am being a nice guy tonight I will give you some webpages I think can help you...

www.iamaskinnypussyandiwanttotrygear.com or www.donteverposthereagain.com

[Jandre72]

Age: 20 (I'm almost 21, and haven't grown in over 3 years, please don't bring this up)
Weight: 168
Height: 5'10
BF: 14% -- hoping to cut down a bit more

I'm starting my first test-cyp cycle for 10 weeks. I already have my pct lined up, but I'm just wondering how often I should inject and how much each time? I heard you can do with a single weekly injection, but isn't it better to inject twice a week, and if so, how much each injection? I'm thinking 500mg/weekly.

I also am doing this cycle to lose a little bf, while gaining some quality muscle, so I plan on keeping my diet clean and doing some cardio religiously. So should I take the adex, .25mged or .5eod? I really want to minimize the bloat that happens while on this stuff.

For the record, I'd rather be lean and cut, than be huge. So is the dosage and length of time appropriate, or should I cut back? I really don't want to be big and bulky at all.

Thanks.


I am going to have to agree with most of the posters here. If you havent grown in 3 years and you have been training as hard as you can, and eating as much as you can, and getting the best rest possible,(i would bet $ on NO) then I do have some bad news for you. Its most likely not going to happen, sure AAS will bump you up a little, but when your done with them, poof, it will go away.
Are you ready to do them for the next 20 to 30 years of your life to "maintain"?

I am going to respond the way I did in a previous post. You should sit back and think about, and i mean really think about, what you want. You are really young and most likely have the best "foundation" you can / could get.

You are going to do what you are going to do, and when you ask for help on here, you have to be ready for any type of response, remember you are asking a lot of experienced people! And they are just being honest! Some are honest in different ways! But it does stress the importance of what they are telling you! I would rather listen to someone that gives me an honest passionate answer then someone that doesnt!

[icefreeze]

When I said I haven't grown in three years, I meant that I haven't grown height-wise or frame-wise. It seems like I'm done growing in terms of bone structure, and height. I have two brothers that are 1 year and 2 years younger than me, and they are both taller than me by an inch and an inch and a half respectively, and it seem as if they are done growing as well.

I honestly sleep 10 hours a day.

For the past 2 years, I've been working out consistently. But about a year ago, I cut from 160(15%-16% bf) to 138 (endurance running), and lost a lot of muscle. I read up and realized I was "skinny fat" so I bulked (rippetoes religiously every other day and about 3000-4000 calories 200+g protein) from October to May from 138 to 170, but I put on quite a bit of fat, since I didn't run and wanted to focus on bulking, and hit a wall for a bit. So I began to run once my school year ended(end of may, I couldn't stand the extra fat, but I did lose about 5pounds off my lifts by cutting), was over and am down to about 160 now.

So I've read everything about "skinny fat" and it has improved a little, but I'm still a little bit flabby, and I know that I have to continue to bulk before I cut, probably until I'm about 180. I figured I would run a cycle of test c, and keep the gains for about 3-4 months afterwards, before I begin to cut down, hopefully getting down to about 7-8% eventually.

I do know how to inject, it's just that I wasn't clear on how frequent or the dosage to get the best results.

I switched up my workout, and am no longer doing Rippetoe's. I began to start to work out 5 days a week, a body part each day.

Monday- Chest (Dumbells)
Tuesday - Shoulders
Wednesday- Legs (I realize I should be doing this quite a bit more than I do)
Thursday - Back
Friday - Chest
Saturday - Bicep/Tricep
Sunday - Rest

I'm intaking about 2500-3000 calories 180g protein, and running at least twice a week.

[klab55]

first off....STOP RUNNING. wtf man... u complain about loosing all this muscle while cutting fat and you continue to run, if u really have been researching like u said u would know to stop fuckin running and WALK

[icefreeze]

Cut out all running, really??? It hasn't been that intense, plus the extra fat that came with the muscle was sort of unbearable so I ran to help get rid of the extra fat, along with dieting. Yes, I did lose muscle (at least 5 pounds off my bench), but I lost at least 10 pounds of fat.

[klab55]

the extra fat will go away faster if u walk fast for long peroids of time..DONT RUN

[icefreeze]

Is that the general consensus? Because I heard that sprints are better (HIIT) than endurance running (or walking).

[SHORTSTOP]

Is that the general consensus? Because I heard that sprints are better (HIIT) than endurance running (or walking).

i like to run or ride a bike but no more than 20mins thou. ill eat b4 and after ill have a shake. the heart is a muscle to. it depends on your goals.