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joelittle
04-09-2006, 10:06 PM
Hi felles,
Just into my first cycle and i was just thinking of planning my second(always plan) :)
So in your opinons what is the best strength gainers in aas?
I understand that it would depend on the person but i think there is a general rule.
best
joe

anaholic
04-09-2006, 10:18 PM
there is an old saying
test is best for size and strength

joelittle
04-10-2006, 02:19 AM
thx and is deca good inconjuction with test e?For the strength side of things i mean?
best
joe

anaholic
04-10-2006, 02:43 AM
decca and test go good together for me, many will say eq, but i like decca

sTaTic
04-11-2006, 12:00 AM
anadrol will give you strength like you wouldnt believe but I dont recomend running it alone

muscleme
04-13-2006, 10:40 PM
just dont use to much Deca , you'll get deca dick

then you'll be :( very :(

musclehunk7
04-26-2006, 01:55 AM
Ive heard if your doing Test 500 a week Deca should be less like 300 on the high side.

joelittle
04-26-2006, 02:01 PM
atm
500mg test e 2xwk
400 eq 2xwk
50g Proviron ed
50g winne ed
i would like to chnage the eq for the decca about half way though just to see if i can feel any differnece for myself.
I am now in the third week of the cycle but only frist week of the winny due to a tummy bug(bad timing)
so ill do the winny for the next 4-6wk max then i would like to bring in the decca or maybe the anadrol for 4wks.
Any thoughts on this?
best
joe

Tyrone
04-27-2006, 03:56 AM
atm
500mg test e 2xwk
400 eq 2xwk
50g Proviron ed
50g winne ed
i would like to chnage the eq for the decca about half way though just to see if i can feel any differnece for myself.
I am now in the third week of the cycle but only frist week of the winny due to a tummy bug(bad timing)
so ill do the winny for the next 4-6wk max then i would like to bring in the decca or maybe the anadrol for 4wks.
Any thoughts on this?
best
joe
I have heard it is best to run the Eq around 12 weeks, so I would keep on withe it. Try the Decca next time around maybe. I am doning test e/Eq and I am in to my 5th week. I just came across some anadrol and will be taking it for the last 5 weeks of my cycle. We will see how it goes.

joelittle
04-27-2006, 07:50 PM
ok let me know how that goes for you in the last weeks interested to see
best
joe

federico
04-28-2006, 04:23 PM
Hi felles,
Just into my first cycle and i was just thinking of planning my second(always plan) :)
So in your opinons what is the best strength gainers in aas?
I understand that it would depend on the person but i think there is a general rule.
best
joe
no questions about it
tren is best for strengh,gains and for get ripped
only a problem very powerful and damage
really suppressed HPTA
increase prl levels
destroy your sex drive when you use it
but is the best
if you speaking about a roid that increase your strengh and intensity in workout very apreciate by powerlifter is halo
halo is extremely liver toxic!
the king of the kings but not in production and extremely dangerous is methyltrienolone
100 times strongt that test!
but if a liver problem is possible with other oral aas with this is secure!

federico
04-28-2006, 04:26 PM
Hi felles,
Just into my first cycle and i was just thinking of planning my second(always plan) :)
So in your opinons what is the best strength gainers in aas?
I understand that it would depend on the person but i think there is a general rule.
best
joe
oh my god...first cicle!!
forget absolutely that i write first! :D
for you a good stack may be
test-deca if you want only gains
if you find less gains but quality gains you can stack test with primo or eq

federico
04-28-2006, 04:28 PM
atm
500mg test e 2xwk
400 eq 2xwk
50g Proviron ed
50g winne ed
i would like to chnage the eq for the decca about half way though just to see if i can feel any differnece for myself.
I am now in the third week of the cycle but only frist week of the winny due to a tummy bug(bad timing)
so ill do the winny for the next 4-6wk max then i would like to bring in the decca or maybe the anadrol for 4wks.
Any thoughts on this?
best
joe
good stack!
no need proviron until you use winny
i suggest to add an arimidex eod

joelittle
04-29-2006, 02:01 AM
already busy with the winny for the week :)
my liver values were fine ill have them checked again after the winny 4-6 weeks.
As for the proviron its goes super well with the test according to most aticals i ve read and the same readings i ve seen here as well,so ill stick to that thanks m8
thx for the help
best
joe

federico
04-29-2006, 02:54 AM
already busy with the winny for the week :)
my liver values were fine ill have them checked again after the winny 4-6 weeks.
As for the proviron its goes super well with the test according to most aticals i ve read and the same readings i ve seen here as well,so ill stick to that thanks m8
thx for the help
best
joe
proviron and winny lower SHBG levels at the same manner ,for this are a good stack with test
winny in addiction is anabolic
if you don't have any liver proble
2 is better than 1! :D

alan1973
05-02-2006, 07:24 PM
how dows one go about getting liver values checked without raising eyebrows?

joelittle
05-02-2006, 10:08 PM
I cant say for you m8 but here in europe i just go to my doctor and ask :)
If you have problems i suppose you can always say that youve been hitting the booze pretty hard latly and just want to be sure of how things are.
I have a good understanding with my doc,he knows what i do he hates it but he wants me to do it right thats what a good doc should do.
best
joe

opusx
05-02-2006, 11:13 PM
how dows one go about getting liver values checked without raising eyebrows?

just ask for a full blood panel and ask to be sure all liver values are checked.

federico
05-03-2006, 12:07 PM
how dows one go about getting liver values checked without raising eyebrows?
first end you alchilated cicle
don't train for 4-5 days
made a control of liver values ast-got,gpt,ggt(this is the most important)if these are up to 3 numbers you have to made a serious control with an abdominal ******
and your doctor will be see the situation
for me in order of strenght this is the best epaprotector
1-glutathione in inj version(oral is useless)
2-NAC and r-ala
2-samyr ademetionine
3-toxepaxi
4-liv 52- legalon

i use on cicle NAC and r-ala and samyr
NAC is a precursor of glutathione and r-ala help this to convert in glutathione
is not bettere choice use glutathione on cicle you can get more stress for the liver
you must use glutathione post cicle with legalon

alan1973
05-08-2006, 08:52 AM
i currently use Milk thistle w/ Dandelion, Fennel and Licorice on a near daily basis and have for about 4-5 weeks.
think that will help?

jvoutlaw
05-08-2006, 01:37 PM
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Matti
06-01-2006, 03:36 AM
For strength I believe in

Test Suspension 600mg/week
Tren 100mg/ eod
Anadrol 50mg/daily
Insulin 5-10ius post workout
GH @ 2-4ius/daily split between morning and post cycle
Nolvadex as needed (but suppression of estrogen can influence results from GH)

This is an immediate gratification cycle. This was my first cycle and it produced awesome results. Imagine your receptors being in their virgin state and then slamming something like this into your system. I do believe by week 6 I had some shoulder pain because my bench and shoulder presses where increasing too fast for my rotator to play catch up. Something to think about. Being a beginner, as long as you eat right, you should get stronger no matter what. I would stick to something like the other board members are prescribing (TEST and Deca) Good Luck!

bionicrage
06-01-2006, 08:33 AM
No would recommend Anavar???

Alin
06-05-2006, 07:25 AM
Hi felles,
Just into my first cycle and i was just thinking of planning my second(always plan) :)
So in your opinons what is the best strength gainers in aas?
I understand that it would depend on the person but i think there is a general rule.
best
joe


Anadrol makes me very strong, like nothing else. Others that work well, testosterone, anavar, EQ, DBOL.

balboa
06-08-2006, 02:58 AM
For pure strength: anadrol, trenbolone, halotestin (not together)

alan1973
08-06-2006, 04:13 PM
how long before the anadrol kicks in?

JMP8888
08-06-2006, 09:45 PM
Test (which should be the base of your cycle) is the best for strength. I used to get great results with Anadrol as well.

rAJJIN
08-06-2006, 11:04 PM
Tren acetate.
Theres nothing that compares imo.... the only thing close would be
Test suspension AND Halo

bod1ggity
08-06-2006, 11:57 PM
Tren acetate.
Theres nothing that compares imo.... the only thing close would be
Test suspension AND Halo
Mmmmmmmm I love tren ace with halo!
I HATE TEST SUS!!!! OUCH!

DaveB
08-13-2006, 11:10 AM
i currently use Milk thistle w/ Dandelion, Fennel and Licorice on a near daily basis and have for about 4-5 weeks.
think that will help?

milk thistle is ok, I use milk thistle/liv52 & synthergine at the same time. Pick up some synthergine and you should be very protected:
http://www.synthetek.com/Products/Synthergine/synthergine.html

graeme87
08-16-2006, 01:07 AM
For strength with added size test, dbol and adrol are excellent.

If you are trying to keep to a weight class but want additional strength without adding any more mass halo, var and winny are best.