When to increase calories?

[jdchaffin]

We know that long estered compounds take a few weeks to "kick in" so at what point do you increase your calorie intake once you start a cycle? For example:
Test E @250/week
EQ@500/week

or

Sust @250/week
EQ@500/week

Just looking for what the general trend is with people.

[Audel]

If I'm about to start bulking I usually start increasing my calories a few weeks before my first pin. I want to be at my full caloric intake on the first pin.

[hismadnessty]

As long as your cals are clean, start increasing right away.

[Casper_Pain]

We know that long estered compounds take a few weeks to "kick in" so at what point do you increase your calorie intake once you start a cycle? For example:
Test E @250/week
EQ@500/week

or

Sust @250/week
EQ@500/week

Just looking for what the general trend is with people.

I would start upping your calories the day of your first injection.

I would also recommend upping your test. You should be taking more test than eq

[jdchaffin]

I would start upping your calories the day of your first injection.

I would also recommend upping your test. You should be taking more test than eq

http://www.professionalmuscle.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14831&highlight=androgens+anabolics

If you want you can read this. Its why I'm going to try a low test high androgen cycle. Not saying its the be all end all. Just something I want to try to see how it goes.

[jdchaffin]

As long as your cals are clean, start increasing right away.

That is kinda what I was thinking. just starting off by increasing lean protein with tuna/chicken right away. thanks for the opinions.

[Alin]

We know that long estered compounds take a few weeks to "kick in" so at what point do you increase your calorie intake once you start a cycle? For example:
Test E @250/week
EQ@500/week

or

Sust @250/week
EQ@500/week

Just looking for what the general trend is with people.

If your not gaining size like you want adjust 500 cals per day

[sliva32]

clean calories can be used on or off cycle!! Eat up! test at 375mg ew maybe a good medium for you if you want to get a little more test but still keep it lower then the eq. YOu will notice good results from it!

[jchh]

Once on a cycle I will slowly start ramping my calories up regardless of ester. If you just all the sudden slam down a couple extra thousand cals it will turn to fat regardless of gear or not. I increase my carbs my 50g/day and fat by around 10g till I start gaining water, then I back down and find my threshold. Protein I always keep high so I dont mess with that. It ussually takes around 2-3 weeks to ramp up properly.

[pathfinder]

Up those cals asap. Use 500 mg test, don't fuck around. I took 500mg for 15 weeks now and I've gained like 7 to 8 lbs of lbm.

[VTliftVT]

Up those cals asap. Use 500 mg test, don't fuck around. I took 500mg for 15 weeks now and I've gained like 7 to 8 lbs of lbm.

That defeats the whole purpose of his cycle. Many people are now running maintenance level test while running a high anabolic. It helps decrease sides from the test and still provides solid lean gains....

read the article he posted from pro m....

[tpd01883]

Once on a cycle I will slowly start ramping my calories up regardless of ester. If you just all the sudden slam down a couple extra thousand cals it will turn to fat regardless of gear or not. I increase my carbs my 50g/day and fat by around 10g till I start gaining water, then I back down and find my threshold. Protein I always keep high so I dont mess with that. It ussually takes around 2-3 weeks to ramp up properly.

Bump this...

I would do that starting a few weeks before cycle and get up to desired bulking calories by the time of your first pin. Atleast for me I can't just go strait to 5k+ calories simply because my digestive tract can't handle it unless I ease into it. Even then I still predigest some of my 'meals' lol. (blending pasta w/ water or milk...nasty I always blend oats into my protein shakes for extra cals.