Proviron during PCT or not?

[EuG3Ni0]

This is the question.
Somebody says yes, somebody says no.

What's the truth? :confused:

[Beetlejuice]

Do not use proviron during PCT. Use Clomid, nolvadex or femara. Use proviron during your cycle. It is a steroid. Use clomid with femara or use clomid with nolvadex.

This is the question.
Somebody says yes, somebody says no.

What's the truth? :confused:

[Kaiser]

Save the Proviron for when your soldier stops working to build your libido back up.

[EuG3Ni0]

I have found this:

The effect of mesterolone on sperm count, on serum follicle stimulating hormone, luteinizing hormone, plasma testosterone and outcome in idiopathic oligospermic men.
Varma TR, Patel RH.
Department of Obstetrics & Gynaecology, St. George's Hospital Medical School London, U.K.

Two hundred fifty subfertile men with idiopathic oligospermia (count less than 20 million/ml) were treated with mesterolone (100-150 mg/day) for 12 months. Seminal analysis were assayed 3 times and serum follicle stimulating hormone (FSH) luteinizing hormone (LH) and plasma testosterone were assayed once before treatment and repeated at 3, 6, 9 and 12 months after the initiation of treatment. One hundred ten patients (44%) had normal serum FSH, LH and plasma testosterone, 85 patients (34%) had low serum FSH, LH and low plasma testosterone. One hundred seventy-five patients (70%) had moderate oligospermia (count 5 to less than 20 million/ml) and 75 patients (30%) had severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million/ml). Seventy-five moderately oligospermic patients showed significant improvement in the sperm density, total sperm count and motility following mesterolone therapy whereas only 12% showed improvement in the severe oligospermic group. Mesterolone had no depressing effect on low or normal serum FSH and LH levels but had depressing effect on 25% if the levels were elevated. There was no significant adverse effect on testosterone levels or on liver function. One hundred fifteen (46%) pregnancies resulted following the treatment, 9 of 115 (7.8%) aborted and 2 (1.7%) had ectopic pregnancy. Mesterolone was found to be more useful in patients with a sperm count ranging between 5 and 20 million/ml. Those with severe oligospermia (count less than 5 million) do not seem to benefit from this therapy.

[sikdogg]

I used to be of the belief that proviron shouldn't be used on PCT but have changed my opinions about it. Studies like the one EuG3Ni0 posted is the reason why... it all boils down to what you want to believe, bro-telligence that proviron is suppressive or studies that it's not.

[sammarbella]

And the winner is?

[anaholic]

proviron should be used during a cycle, not after,