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InsaneS8Pain
05-12-2008, 04:41 PM
Hey Bros,

23 Years Old
11-12%Bodyfat
180Lbs
5'8
Training hard 7 years..

Cycle
1-12 or 14? Test C 500mg/Weekly
Equipoise 1-12or 14? 400mg/weekly..
Pct
Nolva,clomid

Goals

Increase size, vascularity, lean muscle, define abs.

Questions

Is test always suppose to run 2 more weeks than EQ? thats why its 12 or 14.

so should i stop the EQ at 12 and run out the Test till 14?

Thanks
InsaneS8Pain

The BB Monad
05-12-2008, 04:48 PM
I'm on it at the moment except I run Sustenon with my cycles instead of other forms of Test.

Stopping the Eq 2 weeks before doesn't really make sense to me although everyone defends it. If you follow my logic maybe you'll understand what I mean. Eq has a half-life of 7-9 days and most Tests have half-lives of around 14 days. Being so, why should you run the Test 2 more weeks without the extra anabolic support?

I'm not really saying this is wrong but I would like it if someone could explain the advantage in doing so.

I just finished the 2nd week today along with Tbol and so far I'm enjoying the results. My weight has gone up 5 pounds and I've dropped about 2% BF. Also my strength has skyrocketed and everyone at the gym is commenting on the intensity of my workouts. I know it is soon and it could be psychological but I definately feel and look different. Even my mom who hadn't seen me for 3 weeks commented that I am leaner and look fuller! :D

InsaneS8Pain
05-12-2008, 04:50 PM
haha thanks bro i think i will just run it for 12 weeks..you have really got me excited for my cycle ahha:)... thats true..someone should really explain that logic, i have not really understood it myself but just thought it was right because thats all ive been searching back in the years.. i guess ill give it a shot..

how many times are you shooting sust?
2x?

i like the whole once a week injection..
hating injecting anywhere but the glutes! lol

ojs
05-12-2008, 04:58 PM
Although half life is a contributing factor, I think it's how the drug effects the androgen levels in the blood that we really care about and not the drug itself. So, if this be true, more androgenic compounds need more time before start PCT.

For example, EQ and Deca need 3 weeks. Where as Test C, E or Sust only need 2 weeks. Test P and Tren A only need 1 week

Haha!! If you want more than that do some research!!!!!!!

I'm on it at the moment except I run Sustenon with my cycles instead of other forms of Test.

Stopping the Eq 2 weeks before doesn't really make sense to me although everyone defends it. If you follow my logic maybe you'll understand what I mean. Eq has a half-life of 7-9 days and most Tests have half-lives of around 14 days. Being so, why should you run the Test 2 more weeks without the extra anabolic support?

I'm not really saying this is wrong but I would like it if someone could explain the advantage in doing so.

I just finished the 2nd week today along with Tbol and so far I'm enjoying the results. My weight has gone up 5 pounds and I've dropped about 2% BF. Also my strength has skyrocketed and everyone at the gym is commenting on the intensity of my workouts. I know it is soon and it could be psychological but I definately feel and look different. Even my mom who hadn't seen me for 3 weeks commented that I am leaner and look fuller! :D

The BB Monad
05-12-2008, 05:05 PM
Thanks ojs! At least that explanation makes some sense but even so shouldn't 1 week less than Test be enough?

And yes, I am pinning 1ml Sust and 1ml Eq every Monday and every Thursday morning after my workouts.

InsaneS8Pain
05-12-2008, 05:07 PM
good point bro..

lola26
05-12-2008, 05:11 PM
Hey Bros,

23 Years Old
11-12%Bodyfat
180Lbs
5'8
Training hard 7 years..

Cycle
1-12 or 14? Test C 500mg/Weekly
Equipoise 1-12or 14? 400mg/weekly..
Pct
Nolva,clomid

Goals

Increase size, vascularity, lean muscle, define abs.

Questions

Is test always suppose to run 2 more weeks than EQ? thats why its 12 or 14.

so should i stop the EQ at 12 and run out the Test till 14?

Thanks
InsaneS8Pain



run the eq for 12, the test for 14. start pct 14 days after last pin.

as for your goals; either bulk or cut, not both. post up your diet and routine.

lola26
05-12-2008, 05:12 PM
Although half life is a contributing factor, I think it's how the drug effects the androgen levels in the blood that we really care about and not the drug itself. So, if this be true, more androgenic compounds need more time before start PCT.

For example, EQ and Deca need 3 weeks. Where as Test C, E or Sust only need 2 weeks. Test P and Tren A only need 1 week

Haha!! If you want more than that do some research!!!!!!!



bump.. pretty much!!

InsaneS8Pain
05-12-2008, 05:27 PM
Diet..is pretty much eat anything and everything in front of me when im bulking..
1g of protein per lb..

routine..

5x5 intermediate.

lola26
05-12-2008, 05:46 PM
well thats stupid.

post your macro split.

protein should be close to 2g per lb while bulking.

lola26
05-12-2008, 05:46 PM
you didnt tell me anything about your routine. how about split, recovery, etc.

IronBod
05-12-2008, 06:21 PM
Diet..is pretty much eat anything and everything in front of me when im bulking..
1g of protein per lb..

routine..

5x5 intermediate.

Bump lola. You need more protein ...!

Alin
05-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Hey Bros,

23 Years Old
11-12%Bodyfat
180Lbs
5'8
Training hard 7 years..

Cycle
1-12 or 14? Test C 500mg/Weekly
Equipoise 1-12or 14? 400mg/weekly..
Pct
Nolva,clomid

Goals

Increase size, vascularity, lean muscle, define abs.

Questions

Is test always suppose to run 2 more weeks than EQ? thats why its 12 or 14.

so should i stop the EQ at 12 and run out the Test till 14?

Thanks
InsaneS8Pain

Have you had blood work to see where your natural hormone levels are right now?