deca or eq??

[iamgreat187]

my first cycle was eq only and it worked great..this cycle im takin tren and test e...but for my next cycle should i use deca or eq??should i switch it up if i tried eq before?opinions??

[King Leesus]

What are your goals? Stats?

[ironfreak83]

What are your goals? Stats?

i agree. we need a better idea of your goals before we can recommend which compound would be better. i've got a cycle thread going in the cycle forum, i've been runing deca and EQ with great success, so if you wanna do some research there and also this thread(http://www.alinboard.com/showthread.php?t=9685) will give you some great info on the positive effects of EQ and Deca on tendon strength and recovery.

[iamgreat187]

awesome.my goal is to bulk right now im at 180 8-10 bf...i really want to get to 195-200 pounds my next cycle is looking like test sub week 1-14 500mgs,tren week1-6 at 75mgs EOD, and deca or eq not sure yet..but thanx i will most def look at the forum..thanks man

[mccollumstacy]

Well if your going to run tren then eq is your choice. you cant run deca with tren cause of the prolactin levels will get to high and you will be lactating like me right now. Plus the bromo right now has more sides then all the gear i am taking right now.

Bumpity Bump Bump

Deca & Tren really is like Oil & Water. They are both great compounds in there on right - but together / not really. I am currently running Test Prop / EQ / Tren Ace - Really a great combo in my opinion - I have had some trouble with the cycle but do not relate it to the combination. Just a thought here - but being you are really pretty fresh with AAS - why waste your wildcard (Tren) when you obviously have so much to gain with other less toxic compounds? Most turn to Tren as a last option - meaning they really have made all the gains they can with more tolerated compounds. But lately I have noticed a trend of newbies turning to it in their first or second cycles. Just because it is rated high as an anabolic doesn't mean you can't make good or better gains off of less toxic compounds. Just an opinion here - but I feel guys should stick with Deca, EQ, Test, DBOL, TBOL, Winny for the first couple years at a min - these are standby compounds / meaning they have been around and proved their worth many times over again. Just consider going with a more basic cycle and spend your $$ on your diet and protein supps. This isn't an opinion but a fact - your $$ are more efficiently spent on two standby compounds and a great diet / supplement plan. Adding a third compound to the scenario (Tren) doesn't equate to the same amount in gains as two standby's and a great diet plan.

[thym43]

Height, age, years training, Little more on your stats. Bump the above, sounds like you may need to research a bit more on the compounds your planning on using. Ironfreak has probably the best current experience with Deca/Eq together. Incidently for my next bulker I plan on following the basically the same regiment he did. You don't want to mess with the prolactin levels too much(tren AND Deca), you'll be sorry, i was, oh, and still am. I would make sure you have some Caber or Bromo on hand......But to go back to the thread starter I have used each compound seperately and like each one for it's own properties, Eq made me vascular as hell and brought out a hard grainy-ness to my muscle, personally, I didn't notice much difference in how tendons and joints felt. Deca made it easy to train hard and heavy, joints felt like a million bucks, recovery time was excellent, got a little puffy at times but for a a bulk it was well worth it. I'm looking forward to the mix of the two!

[VTliftVT]

just in case people mis-read, he said his CURRENT CYCLE is test and tren...he wanted reccomendations for his NEXT cycle. so he's not saying he was going to use tren/deca together...tho he may have had that intention..dunno.

[JUICEDUP3]

im running some t400, eq, tren a and anavar. love it!!

[mccollumstacy]

just in case people mis-read, he said his CURRENT CYCLE is test and tren...he wanted reccomendations for his NEXT cycle. so he's not saying he was going to use tren/deca together...tho he may have had that intention..dunno.

Yea - he did say he wanted to run a bulk next w/ Test Susp; Tren; and he was undecided on EQ or Deca. What ever the case - I still feel that an individual has a lot to gain early in their regimen w/out resulting to Tren so early. I'm sure you'd agree

[VTliftVT]

oh hell yes no tren for a while....i honestly dont believe tren should be used unless your competing or atlest at a low dose until you get the sides in check...that shits HARSH... but amazing :)

[thym43]

oh hell yes no tren for a while....i honestly dont believe tren should be used unless your competing or atlest at a low dose until you get the sides in check...that shits HARSH... but amazing :)

Bump This. I would not use Tren if I weren't competeing, no sense in it. Although I have to admit, my sides on it were truly minimal.

[IronBod]

Yea - he did say he wanted to run a bulk next w/ Test Susp; Tren; and he was undecided on EQ or Deca. What ever the case - I still feel that an individual has a lot to gain early in their regimen w/out resulting to Tren so early. I'm sure you'd agree

BIG BUMP !

[iamgreat187]

yes my current cycle is test e and tren but tren for only 3 weeks at 50mgs EOD, i just wanted to play with it and see whats its like.for my next cycle im going on a bulker with test sub., eq or deca and another bulker but if you guys dont think its worth me taking it yall know best.im 22 years old,5'9,bf 8-10%,trainin for 4 years on and on.my first cyc;e was eq only and loved it the vascurlarity and hunger im just wondering bout deca...i had no joint problems.so if i bump tren i would like to add another compound,i prolly will go with deca since i havent tryed it but i want another bulker thrown in there...and hell no on dbol...but thanxx guys for the opinions..

[iamgreat187]

well on tren i also havent really seen any sides but the dose is minimal at 50mgs EOD only for 3 weeks,more just experimenting with it

[lola26]

tren at age 22, what the hell? i think you should focus on your diet.

[kevin3987]

tren at age 22, what the hell? i think you should focus on your diet.
Bump ! although I statred early I wished I knew more & I would have waited, but thats what we r here 4 2 tell peeps like this 2 wait, 4 there own good!

[Schoonz21]

dude use tren, 75mg EOD is fuckin fine man. no problems, If ur gonna do it do it fuckin right..

[Schoonz21]

tren might be harsh if ur a mental pussy. fuckin suck it up and get results

[Schoonz21]

oh hell yes no tren for a while....i honestly dont believe tren should be used unless your competing or atlest at a low dose until you get the sides in check...that shits HARSH... but amazing :)


tren isnt harsh at 75mg EOD, run it with some test. and take it easy. take low doses, and dont over do shit. BALANCE

[viking65]

if you keep your tren at 200mgs a week you should have very few sides most guys run to high of a dose that's why they feel like shit. less test is better also when running tren. as for your next cycle leave out the tren and try 200-250 of deca and EQ together works very will.

[VTliftVT]

tren isnt harsh at 75mg EOD, run it with some test. and take it easy. take low doses, and dont over do shit. BALANCE

I don't recall giving a range at which it would be harsh but yes, tren to many people when ran at an effective dose does cause many sides. For myself it did, night sweats, piss every 30 min all through the night, aggression like I have never experienced, sleeplessness, overall just felt like hell. And yes this was at a higher dosage than 75mg EOD but tren is known for its horrible sides. Just laying it out there, glad your experience was better than mine.

[iamgreat187]

thanx for the responces i just figured that since this is a new compond to my body id go with 50mgs EOD althrough at first i was taking 50mgs ED the sides were terrible someone cut me off and i was bout to bump them with my car and get out and kill them!!at 50 mgs EOD im feel pretty good but cant sleep well but that was a problem before tren..and i read that alin said that he had some guys take 37.5 mgs of tren and got great results but you guys are right, i will wait on the tren till later in life..for now i do think i will go with deca,eq, and test sub...sounds like a awesome combo!!

[Alin]

my first cycle was eq only and it worked great..this cycle im takin tren and test e...but for my next cycle should i use deca or eq??should i switch it up if i tried eq before?opinions??

depends on your goals. however you can use both. EQ and DECA have a synergistic effect when used together.

[nunes]

my first cycle was eq only and it worked great..this cycle im takin tren and test e...but for my next cycle should i use deca or eq??should i switch it up if i tried eq before?opinions??

eq only?
for how many weeks ?
dosage?
libido and recovery?
sorry to ask you so many things but your first cycle interest me

[iamgreat187]

i took eq alone for about 13 weeks...at 600mgs a week..my libido improved and i gaIned about 17 pounds kept like 13 it was my first cycle so it did great alone....i would do it again if it would work the same but i doubt i dont know....

[nunes]

i took eq alone for about 13 weeks...at 600mgs a week..my libido improved and i gaIned about 17 pounds kept like 13 it was my first cycle so it did great alone....i would do it again if it would work the same but i doubt i dont know....

seem to me you havent got 100% of endogenous test suppression, I wonder why so many people say to always do test with eq, I`m reading a lot of good experiences with eq solo

[LeanMass17]

seem to me you havent got 100% of endogenous test suppression, I wonder why so many people say to always do test with eq, I`m reading a lot of good experiences with eq solo

Everyone says not to take it by itself because if you are the unlucky bastard who gets his testicular axis "100%" suppressed and you have no external test being injected life is going to be pretty shitty...unless you like a limp dick and no libido among other things

[nunes]

Everyone says not to take it by itself because if you are the unlucky bastard who gets his testicular axis "100%" suppressed and you have no external test being injected life is going to be pretty shitty...unless you like a limp dick and no libido among other things

what do you think its worst for suppression deca or eq?

[lola26]

deca by far!

[The BB Monad]

deca by far!

Bump on the Deca! I don't lose any libido on Eq (at least so far!).