BP Strombafort "whats the deal"

[knudsoncassy]

I just need a heads up on BP Winne tabs. I am currebtly taking five a day split into two doses or 50mg. I am not rally seeing what I had expected anyone have any ideas or input with tere experience.:confused:

[kevin3987]

I just need a heads up on BP Winne tabs. I am currebtly taking five a day split into two doses or 50mg. I am not rally seeing what I had expected anyone have any ideas or input with tere experience.:confused:
so u r taking 250mgs a day?????????????????

[Jello]

I just need a heads up on BP Winne tabs. I am currebtly taking five a day split into two doses or 50mg. I am not rally seeing what I had expected anyone have any ideas or input with tere experience.:confused:

I just finished a cycle with BP Winstrol in it. Those are some potent little tabs. I don't know what you are trying to achieve with your current cycle, you should post your full cycle and stats. You might get better responses to what you should be expecting.

[kevin3987]

I just finished a cycle with BP Winstrol in it. Those are some potent little tabs. I don't know what you are trying to achieve with your current cycle, you should post your full cycle and stats. You might get better responses to what you should be expecting.

Bump! is it me or is 250mgs a day a bit high:eek:

[buzzkill44]

he most likely has the 10mg tabs, or else his liver will be dead in a week. if you are thinking they were gonna make you get all cut up, then you are mistaken. they are classified as a cutting steroid because they don't make your body retain water and such. best taken when you have a base of test-e because it binds to that and makes them more potent. just taking them alone your not going to notice much of a change.

[lola26]

i have some body research winstrol tabs on the way... i cant wait. if they are anything like the blue hearts...wow!

[mccollumstacy]

i have some body research winstrol tabs on the way... i cant wait. if they are anything like the blue hearts...wow!

See you found a source.

I'd love to give the Blue Hearts a run - but I hate to order more DBOL while sitting on a ton of the 50's from BP. But I don't plan on running any of them - they just didn't live up to my expectations. PM me if you know where I can get the Blue Hearts without a huge min order.

[knudsoncassy]

I like the help here is my cycle info.
Week 1 and 2 front load 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg Dbol Daily
Week 3 through 8 1000mg Sus once a week
Week 9 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg win tab daily
still on this mix actually strenght through the roof
going for 2 more weeks then time to take a break what is your opinion?
post cycle therapy of course

[Jello]

I like the help here is my cycle info.
Week 1 and 2 front load 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg Dbol Daily
Week 3 through 8 1000mg Sus once a week
Week 9 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg win tab daily
still on this mix actually strenght through the roof
going for 2 more weeks then time to take a break what is your opinion?
post cycle therapy of course

Whats your stats?

[ojs]

I like the help here is my cycle info.
Week 1 and 2 front load 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg Dbol Daily
Week 3 through 8 1000mg Sus once a week
Week 9 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg win tab daily
still on this mix actually strenght through the roof
going for 2 more weeks then time to take a break what is your opinion?
post cycle therapy of courseWell, there's the cycle. I assume winny 50mg per day for 3 weeks?

But where are the stats???
Number of cycles?
Age? Height? Weight?
Bodyfat? Abs showing?

[kevin3987]

Well, there's the cycle. I assume winny 50mg per day for 3 weeks?

But where are the stats???
Number of cycles?
Age? Height? Weight?
Bodyfat? Abs showing?

agreed bring it u want the correct advice, no 1 wants 2 flame we can give advice based on the truth whatever it maybee, so feel free 2 bring it here( ur stats) & u will get honest advice from an honest question

[lola26]

I like the help here is my cycle info.
Week 1 and 2 front load 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg Dbol Daily
Week 3 through 8 1000mg Sus once a week
Week 9 1000mg Sus once a week 50mg win tab daily
still on this mix actually strenght through the roof
going for 2 more weeks then time to take a break what is your opinion?
post cycle therapy of course


i think your cycle is retarded:

dbol for 2 weeks? should be run 4-6.
1g of sust a week is way high.
sust must be injected at least twice a week.
your fucking with your test levels and are going to experience sides.

stats
goals
exp

[knudsoncassy]

I guess stats are body size
height 6'3
weight 327pds
bf 17%
Arms 24
thighs 32
waist 38
neck 21
I am 36 yrs old have been training since I was thirteen. First cycle at age 20 when I weighed 170. I lived in Southern Cali for years so for five years I never went off the gas (never took a break ever). After that I went in and had my natural test levels checked and they were fine. So I am the poster child for crazy. And as far as it being retarded. Ask any doctor about any cycle at all and he will say it's all crazy and ask why. I take so much because you have to figure bodymass into the equasion.

[ojs]

I guess stats are body size
height 6'3
weight 327pds
bf 17%
Arms 24
thighs 32
waist 38
neck 21
I am 36 yrs old have been training since I was thirteen. First cycle at age 20 when I weighed 170. I lived in Southern Cali for years so for five years I never went off the gas (never took a break ever). After that I went in and had my natural test levels checked and they were fine. So I am the poster child for crazy. And as far as it being retarded. Ask any doctor about any cycle at all and he will say it's all crazy and ask why. I take so much because you have to figure bodymass into the equasion.Haha!! Yup. You're the poster child for crazy. And the poster child for getting away with it.

With over 270lbs of LBM it does change how crazy your posted dosage looks. Three things, ...
1. I'd take the DBol for 4 weeks.
2. I'd divide the 1000mg Sus into 2 shots per week. Maybe even 3.
3. I'm not clear on the Winny dosage you posted. And is it 3 weeks?

[knudsoncassy]

I am on the winne and sus for another two weeks 1000mg sus was 1x week now will try 2x week 500 each load. And the winnen 50mg day two times x25mg day for the next three weeks. I appreciate the input. Plus I get the prop kick I love twice a week instead of once. I will give the heads up at the end and in three months will definatley do the dbol for three weeks on to start another journey to being a freak of nature.

[knudsoncassy]

Now that the cat is out of the bag what would be a cycle for a guy of my size and weight? This is the cycle I have done for a year and a half. It just might be a time for change. I am up for suggestions.

[lola26]

i would like to see some pics..

[ojs]

i would like to see some pics..Bump! That's pro level BB'er LBM. I'd like to see what that looks like.

[lola26]

i dream about 275lbm... lol

[navigatorrs]

Post pics bro!!!

[The BB Monad]

PUT UP SOME PICS!!!!!!!!!

[knudsoncassy]

It is pretty hard to try and take pictures of yourself, but I will get some up here to show you guys. Within the next day or two

[thesasarasa]

have someone take a pic for you..whats the big deal bro?

[deepblue]

Ooooohhhhh .Come on now its way ez to take a snap shot.Do it..

[ojs]

It is pretty hard to try and take pictures of yourself, but I will get some up here to show you guys. Within the next day or two
I sure hope so. lola wants to see. I want to see. navigatorrs wants to see. BB, thesasarasa and deepblue wants to see. ...I'm all excited now.:cool::cool::cool:

[Rubix]

sounds like BP's dogshit, im just not gonna bother with it. too many neg reviews. i was gonna get some t-bol but now i really dont think it'd be a wise investment

[Jello]

I think you've been called out. Post some pics and prove us wrong.

[lola26]

bump!

[BB Monadess]

The Tbol and Var are good. My boyfriend has used them time and time again and his strength always shoots up and he hardens up nicely. At the moment he is kickstarting (I think the term is right) his Sustenon/Boldenone cycle with the Tbol and after 8 days at 50mg Tbol you can already notice the gains and his strength has skyrocketed.

BP is legit but the Clomid has had bad reviews over and over again.

[kevin3987]

Pics com on Shut us up will ya'

[lola26]

bump.. again.

[deepblue]

Is it me or does this seem like a game of poker,and its time for this guy to show his cards.

[Jello]

Is it me or does this seem like a game of poker,and its time for this guy to show his cards.

It is obvious he is full of shit, that's why he hasn't even told us to fuck off:D
He just kind of disappeared on us. I guess we'll never know:(:( :D

[ironfreak83]

Bump! That's pro level BB'er LBM. I'd like to see what that looks like.

haha yeah i'd like to see some pics to :D

man these internet warriors just keep gettin worse and worse. before too long people are gonna be saying they weigh 385 at 2% bf and that they bench 900 pounds raw :D

[deepblue]

Isnt that the truth.

[knudsoncassy]

Here is an arm pic It is hard to hold a camera and not take a picture of a wall. I am not the type to ask for someone to take pictures. And yes my arms are 24's I tried to flex but this one turned out the best. Do you need more? Or will this one shut you guys up.

[ojs]

Here is an arm pic It is hard to hold a camera and not take a picture of a wall. I am not the type to ask for someone to take pictures. And yes my arms are 24's I tried to flex but this one turned out the best. Do you need more? Or will this one shut you guys up.Hey, I've got an idea. Hand someone the camera.

[knudsoncassy]

I have never seen a bunch of dudes wanting to see another guy so bad in my life. Is this a gay chat? I dont give a fuck what anyone thinks I bust my ass six days a week in the gym. All I fuckin needed was a little cycle input !!! I put up my body size to get a few ideas about dose amounts for my body size. I do not need to show out to a bunch of guys on the internet. I thought this was a group of guys that have a little knowledge that might help. I am better off asking a 195 pd personal trainer at least he won't ask for pictures. If you guys want to help out thats great but fuck anymore pictures. I am worried about training not hunting for batteries for my camera so I can shut a bunch people I dont even know up. If there is any people with any knowledge that are just interested in helping let me know. Everyone else go buy some gay porn.

[thesasarasa]

well it helps alot to know your true stats bro.. that way these guys can give you the real deal on what you should be doing to a "t".. thats all.. the stats you gave sound rediculous and people here dont like it when you lie about something stupid. like the fact that that pic you took is in a mirror becuase we can see the camers relflection but you wont take a pic to show what your full appearance looks like just goes to show that your not being truthful. so why are the guys on here gonna give advice to a fictional person that doesnt exist. the only time being wasted here isnt yours but everyone elses. oh and 24's my nuts..

[Jello]

I have never seen a bunch of dudes wanting to see another guy so bad in my life. Is this a gay chat? I dont give a fuck what anyone thinks I bust my ass six days a week in the gym. All I fuckin needed was a little cycle input !!! I put up my body size to get a few ideas about dose amounts for my body size. I do not need to show out to a bunch of guys on the internet. I thought this was a group of guys that have a little knowledge that might help. I am better off asking a 195 pd personal trainer at least he won't ask for pictures. If you guys want to help out thats great but fuck anymore pictures. I am worried about training not hunting for batteries for my camera so I can shut a bunch people I dont even know up. If there is any people with any knowledge that are just interested in helping let me know. Everyone else go buy some gay porn.

You're funny. If you want real advice, suck it up, give us your real stats, and you will get a bunch of good responses. There are alot of guys on here that give great advise to needing people, you just need to be honest with what you are dealing with. Oh, and those arms are far from 24 inches. STOP LYING.

[Ed17447]

The way you took that pic it looks like you have more than 17%bf. just my perspective from the pic. Its easy bro, just stand in front of the mirror and click.

[deepblue]

The way you took that pic it looks like you have more than 17%bf. just my perspective from the pic. Its easy bro, just stand in front of the mirror and click.Bump to all of the above.How could you even expect to get advice when your acting like a little bitch cub.Just by that pict alone I can tell you bf is bs.Here some advice for you...Ah fuck it!:D

[knudsoncassy]

To check my BF I have one of those scales that you step on and it tells you what it is. But since the jury is in on my fat ass I am going tommarrow to have my BF checked by a professional. If it comes back not in my favor I will buy everyone a beer, but if it in my favor a little justification is in line. I do like the brutal honesty about this crowd. Its time to face that facts I guess and tommarrow will tell.

[Rubix]

The way you took that pic it looks like you have more than 17%bf. just my perspective from the pic. Its easy bro, just stand in front of the mirror and click.

most cameras have a countdown timer, too. just thumb through ur menu (if it's a digital) and look for the icon that looks like a clock reading ~2 pmish. Usually it gives ya 5-10 secs to set down the camera, make a pretty face, then wait for the flash.

[deepblue]

To check my BF I have one of those scales that you step on and it tells you what it is. But since the jury is in on my fat ass I am going tommarrow to have my BF checked by a professional. If it comes back not in my favor I will buy everyone a beer, but if it in my favor a little justification is in line. I do like the brutal honesty about this crowd. Its time to face that facts I guess and tommarrow will tell.Sounds good man.Its a tough crowd and most of these guys dont like to waste there time.So if you want help just answer the questions that are asked of you.That way you get the benefits of the years and years and years of experience that this board has to offer.Good Day.Did someone say Beer.:eek:

[Tyrone]

I only read part of the last 2 pages of this thread....but you need to re-measure 'your' arms...They are more like 16-17" kid...24" makes me think you took the pic. of one of your friends with the biggest arms they had. End it or your gone for compulsive lying...Oh, and you owe me some beer if you're of age!:D:eek:
Here is an arm pic It is hard to hold a camera and not take a picture of a wall. I am not the type to ask for someone to take pictures. And yes my arms are 24's I tried to flex but this one turned out the best. Do you need more? Or will this one shut you guys up.

[lola26]

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[Jello]

To check my BF I have one of those scales that you step on and it tells you what it is. But since the jury is in on my fat ass I am going tommarrow to have my BF checked by a professional. If it comes back not in my favor I will buy everyone a beer, but if it in my favor a little justification is in line. I do like the brutal honesty about this crowd. Its time to face that facts I guess and tommarrow will tell.

You know if you come on here and say "I fucked up, my stats are really this and that", and you are honest, you will hear "It's about time you fessed up" then you will get the answers you were looking for.

[knudsoncassy]

I had my BF taken today at the gym welllllllllll just call me fatty. I am 24% so it doesnt matter any measurement I have since its all coverd in fat. So I am buying a keg of beer with the hopes of an apology to everyone t ohelp smooth this over and get a new start. I guess what I am needing is some serious cardio I do weigh 329 to 332. So the math now changes. I am looking at about 82 or so pds of fat (anyone in need of some I have plenty to give). And the current cycle I am on is being ended. I need do get rid of the bf but keep what little muscle that is under there. I am giving a picture of my back so this will be the start of a cutting cycle that is giong to take a long time. If I have anyone still interested in helping out please I need to lose the weight. I see a group of guys that hwve the muscle and are lean. so any help will be appreciated. And for a little saving of face if you can get past the fat body my arms ar big either that or I have a small head compare. Like I said the numbers dont matter if your coverd in marshmellow. Sorry again but I do need the help.

[Jello]

I had my BF taken today at the gym welllllllllll just call me fatty. I am 24% so it doesnt matter any measurement I have since its all coverd in fat. So I am buying a keg of beer with the hopes of an apology to everyone t ohelp smooth this over and get a new start. I guess what I am needing is some serious cardio I do weigh 329 to 332. So the math now changes. I am looking at about 82 or so pds of fat (anyone in need of some I have plenty to give). And the current cycle I am on is being ended. I need do get rid of the bf but keep what little muscle that is under there. I am giving a picture of my back so this will be the start of a cutting cycle that is giong to take a long time. If I have anyone still interested in helping out please I need to lose the weight. I see a group of guys that hwve the muscle and are lean. so any help will be appreciated. And for a little saving of face if you can get past the fat body my arms ar big either that or I have a small head compare. Like I said the numbers dont matter if your coverd in marshmellow. Sorry again but I do need the help.

No problem. Hit the cardio hard and clean up that diet. Stay away from the gear for a while, you don't want to grow bitch tits:) Put in some serious work for 6 months and re-evaluate your needs. Any help you may need in either dept. you will probably get now. Just ask.

[ronnie]

^^^^^^^^^^
bump.
If your determined to get lean,and you set your mind to it you will get their.Cardio at least 4 days a week.cut out the fatty foods.if you need a bit of help you could try clen and T3.less carbs more protein.get your diet right.
This website will help you work out how many cals you are consuming every day,and the percentages of fat,protein and carbs.
http://www.fitday.com/

[ojs]

Now you've got my respect!

At 24% bodyfat this is what you look like:
330lbs = 79lbs fat + 251lbs of LBM

At 12% bodyfat:
285lbs = 34lbs fat + 251lbs of LBM

Weight loss Goal:
330lbs - 285lbs = 45lbs you need to lose before you start your cycle

AAS:
You're still a big guy. You've got plenty of LBM for the AAS to do it's job. But you really should to get below 15% before you start to avoid the estrogen related issues.

Diet:
Your biggest enemy is not fat. It's processed food. Start eating real whole food and avoid too much starch or fat and all processed foods. Avoid all sugars except immediately post workout. You need about 250g of protein and 125g of good fats as your base diet while you're cutting. Preferably most of the fats in EFA's. This ratio keeps the muscle fed nicely. The rest of what you eat is just filler to make your calorie requirements. Try to eat a lot of high fiber veggies. And get used to brown rice or baked yams and oatmeal for your starches. Whole eggs are your friend. The fat will start melting off.

Cardio:
You want to make sure you keep your muscle. So start with easy cardio 4-5 times per week. If you have access to a treadmill run it at 2.0 mph at an incline of 14. Make sure you can keep a conversation going without losing your breath the entire time. If you start getting winded stop and record the time. If you don't get winded and you made it to 20 minutes, speed it up to 2.1 mph next session. Do this for a week and post the results.

I had my BF taken today at the gym welllllllllll just call me fatty. I am 24% so it doesnt matter any measurement I have since its all coverd in fat. So I am buying a keg of beer with the hopes of an apology to everyone t ohelp smooth this over and get a new start. I guess what I am needing is some serious cardio I do weigh 329 to 332. So the math now changes. I am looking at about 82 or so pds of fat (anyone in need of some I have plenty to give). And the current cycle I am on is being ended. I need do get rid of the bf but keep what little muscle that is under there. I am giving a picture of my back so this will be the start of a cutting cycle that is giong to take a long time. If I have anyone still interested in helping out please I need to lose the weight. I see a group of guys that hwve the muscle and are lean. so any help will be appreciated. And for a little saving of face if you can get past the fat body my arms ar big either that or I have a small head compare. Like I said the numbers dont matter if your coverd in marshmellow. Sorry again but I do need the help.

I don't drink beer. You're going to have to spring for one good bottle of dry red wine. And I don't drink crappy wine. So make sure it's a good one fucker!!!:D:D

[lola26]

you really dont look 330 either. hard to tell from those pics. i am 260 right now, 15%, and i look bigger imo.

[ojs]

you really dont look 330 either. hard to tell from those pics. i am 260 right now, 15%, and i look bigger imo.
Didn't you post a picture once? I remember, unless I'm having another senior moment, that you were pretty big. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

[Ed17447]

I had my BF taken today at the gym welllllllllll just call me fatty. I am 24% so it doesnt matter any measurement I have since its all coverd in fat. So I am buying a keg of beer with the hopes of an apology to everyone t ohelp smooth this over and get a new start. I guess what I am needing is some serious cardio I do weigh 329 to 332. So the math now changes. I am looking at about 82 or so pds of fat (anyone in need of some I have plenty to give). And the current cycle I am on is being ended. I need do get rid of the bf but keep what little muscle that is under there. I am giving a picture of my back so this will be the start of a cutting cycle that is giong to take a long time. If I have anyone still interested in helping out please I need to lose the weight. I see a group of guys that hwve the muscle and are lean. so any help will be appreciated. And for a little saving of face if you can get past the fat body my arms ar big either that or I have a small head compare. Like I said the numbers dont matter if your coverd in marshmellow. Sorry again but I do need the help.
Good man!!

[lola26]

Didn't you post a picture once? I remember, unless I'm having another senior moment, that you were pretty big. Maybe I'm thinking of someone else.

yeah, about 25lbs ago. lol. it was bad quality. i will get more pics up post cycle when my bloat goes down.

[Rubix]

OJS has an awesome take on cardio. Personally, i don't do any running in general as my flat-footed condition puts too much stress on the medial tendons of my lower legs (according to my podiatrist). I always did light cardio on the elliptical 4 or 5 times per week, preferrably after waking up in the morning, with 1 scoop of whey protein mixed in water only (to keep my body from burning up muscle). i pretty much did the ((220-age)x.65) equation, which came out to 130 bpm's for me. I basically used this as a minimum, and gave myself a 15 bpm range to keep my heart rate at. So while doing my 30-45 minutes of cardio (depending on how energetic i felt) my heart rate averaged 130-145 bpm's. If it got too high, i quit running so hard, and it usually took about 10 or so minutes of exercising to get it to around 130 bpm's. I'd always sweat like a hooker in church but never felt winded when the session was over. I began at 15 minutes per session for the first week or two, then upped it to 20, then 25, and so on. Between February and May I dropped 25 pounds. Just grab ur ipod and your favorite tunes, and when you skin starts tingling, you're doing it right :)

and for my diet, well OJS has pretty much has it all summarized :)

[The BB Monad]

I don't run either - I just walk at a moderate speed without getting winded and do some elliptical for 20 minutes each. That by itself seems to melt the fat off. T3, Clen and Var are a nice addition though and I often run that too to help speed up the process and keep more muscle. Some add Test Prop but I do well with the Var.

[knudsoncassy]

I am doing the cardio thing starting today. I have a polar setup so I am going to do about 15 min at about 135 bpm and try to hit 30 min eod. The diet is antoher task to clean up thanks for the input. I am over trying to prove my stats. I have posted the pictures believe what you want. see the new pictures in a month.

[Ed17447]

Yeah, keep us updated on your progress.

[Shorin]

LOL 17% BF.... It sounded like you had alot of experience when u first posted. U should have known better then to accept 17% for truth. Anyway good news is you got checked and looks like you are on the right path. Just walking will help alot if you are coming from no cardio at all. I would take it easy on the knees till you lighten up some. ANyway good luck and keep it posted!