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NattyToBigEric
04-28-2008, 09:38 AM
Has anyone done the Clenbuterol from balkan....

If so how good is it and what should the doses look like.....

And should diet stay the same as when bulking with cutting?

If not what should calories, fat grams, carbs look like for a day?

Any help would be appreciated.!!!:o

tdizzle28
04-28-2008, 09:47 AM
Has anyone done the Clenbuterol from balkan....

If so how good is it and what should the doses look like.....

And should diet stay the same as when bulking with cutting?

If not what should calories, fat grams, carbs look like for a day?

Any help would be appreciated.!!!:o

I tried one pill of the clen and had the shakes for days, it's definitive that I am not a good canidate for metabolic enhancers like this. For someone that can handle the sides, I think it would "Do Work" to quote my homeboy Lunny. :)

For diet, I assume you are trying to maintain weight while dropping body fat? Lower those carbs, increase the protein and good fat.

NattyToBigEric
04-28-2008, 09:55 AM
Yup I want to keep my weight where it is after i'm finished with this cycle....

And want to lose the bodyfat that i have....

Wanting to see my lower abs... I'm am very happy with upper abs....

Figured this would help let the lower ones come out to see me:cool:

lunny
04-28-2008, 04:52 PM
I tried one pill of the clen and had the shakes for days, it's definitive that I am not a good canidate for metabolic enhancers like this. For someone that can handle the sides, I think it would "Do Work" to quote my homeboy Lunny. :)

For diet, I assume you are trying to maintain weight while dropping body fat? Lower those carbs, increase the protein and good fat.

Nice bro!! lol.....:D

thesasarasa
04-28-2008, 06:11 PM
ive tried bp clen and its good stuff..i started with one pill aday and increased one pill everyday until igot to 4 pills a day. i would take a half or whole one to test out your sensitivity to it and increase from there. take it for two weeks at a time. so two weeks on and two weeks off before starting the cycle again. i think 2 weeks of taking it saturates all the receptors and basically it wont do what its supposed to do anymore after two weeks so you need to take the 2 weeks off to let them get back to normal. i hear stacking it with cytomel will really be good for cutting fat.. im gonna try that stack at the end of my cycle. but read up a little more on it and google it and you can find out exactly why and how you need to cycle it. i also read some where if you want to take something on your 2 weeks off you can cycle the ephedrine stack..

weingro
05-01-2008, 11:14 AM
What is Clenbuterol?

Clenbuterol is a beta-2 agonist and is used in many countries as a broncodilator
for the treatment of asthma. Because of it's long half life, clenbuterol is not
FDA approved for medical use. It is a central nervous system stimulant and acts
like adrenaline. It shares many of the same side effects as other central nervous system stimulants
like ephedrine. Contrary to por belief, Clenbuterol has a half life of 35
hours and not 48 hours.

Dosing and Cycling

Clenbuterol comes in 20mcg tablets, although it is also available in syrup, pump
and injectable form. It's also available as a powder in some areas. Doses are
very dependent on how well the user responds to the side effects, but somewhere
in the range of 4-8 tablets per day for men and 2-4 tablets a day for women is
most common. Clenbuterol loses its thermogenic effects after around 8 weeks when
body temperature drops back to normal. Its anabolic/anti-catabolic properties
fade away at around the 18 day mark. Taking the long half life into
consideration, the most effective way of cycling Clenbuterol is 2 weeks on/ 2 weeks off
for no more than 12 weeks. Ephedrine or Yohimbine can be used in the off weeks.

Clenbuterol vs Ephedrine vs dnp - dinitrophenol -

Ephedrine will raise metabolic levels by about 2-3 percent and 200mg of dnp - dinitrophenol -
raises metabolic levels by about 30 percent. Clenbuterol raises metabolic levels
about 10 percent and it can raise body temperature several degrees.

dnp - dinitrophenol - is by far the most effective fat burner but many people will never use it
because of the risks associated with it. It also offers no anti-catabolic
benefit. Although it does have anti-catabolic effect, ephedrine's short
half-life prevents it from being all that effective.

As far as side effects, Clenbuterol's are certainly milder than dnp - dinitrophenol - 's, and some
would even say milder than an eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin stack. There is no ECA-style crash on
Clenbuterol and many users find it easier on the prostate and sex drive. This
may in part be due to the fact that Clenbuterol is generally used for only 2 weeks at a
time.

Side effects

NAUSEA
NERVOUSNESS
DIZZINESS
DROWSINESS
DRY MOUTH
FACIAL FLUSHING
HEADACHE
HEARTBURN
INCREASED BLOOD PRESSURE
INCREASED SWEATING
INSOMNIA
LIGHTHEADEDNESS
MUSCLE CRAMPS
TREMORS
VOMITING
CHEST PAIN

The most significant side effects are muscle cramps, nervousness, headaches, and
increased blood pressure.

Muscle cramps can be avoided by drinking 1.5-2 gallons of water and consuming
bananas and oranges or supplementing with potassium tablets at 200-400mg a
day taken before bed on an empty stomach. Taurine at 3-5grams is a necessity in
minimizing cramps.

Headaches can easily be avoided with Tylenol Extra Strength taking at the first
signs of a headache.

Common Uses

Post-Cycle Therapy: Clenbuterol is used post cycle to aid in recovery. It allows the
user to continue eating large amounts of food, without worrying about adding
body fat. It also helps the user maintain more of his strength as well as his
intensity in the gym. Diet: Roughly the same as on cycle.

Fat loss: The most por use for Clenbuterol, it also increases muscle hardness,
vascularity, strength and size on a caloric deficit. For the most significant
fat loss, Clenbuterol can be stacked with T3. Diet: A high protein(1.5g per lb of
bodyweight), moderate carb(0.5g to 1g per lb of bodyweight), low fat diet(0.25g
per lb of bodyweight) seems to work best with Clenbuterol.

Alternative to Steroids: Clenbuterol has mild steroid-like properties and can be
used by non-AS using bodybuilder to increase LBM as well as strength and muscle
hardness. Diet: A moderate carb, high protein, moderate fat diet work well.

Stimulant/Performance Enhancement: It can be used as a stimulant, but an eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin
stack may be a better choice because of it's much shorter half-life. Diet: To
take full advantage of the stimulatory effects of Clenbuterol, carbohydrates must be
included in the diet. Ketogenic diets do not work well in this case.

Precautions: Is Clenbuterol for you?

The same precautions that apply to Ephedrine must be applied to Clenbuterol, although
some people find eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin stacks are harsher than Clenbuterol. It should not be stacked
with other central nervous system stimulants such as Ephedrine and Yohimbine. These combinations
are unnecessary and potentially dangerous. Caffeine can be used in moderation
before a workout for an extra quick. burst of energy.

A word on Ketotifen

Ketotifen is safe antihistamine used extensively some European countries to
treat asthma and allergies. It can up regulate beta-2-receptors that Clenbuterol down
regulates. Basically, it allows users to extend their use of Clenbuterol for 6-8 weeks
at a time. 2-3mg a day is ideal, 10mg as found in "superclen" can make users
extremely drowsy. It also increases the effectiveness of Clenbuterol so doses must be
adjusted accordingly. The downfall of this drug is its ability to induce
extreme hunger is some people, which is not a desirable state to be in when
dieting.

Cycling Clenbuterol

Most users that report bad side effects and discontinue use are those who use
high doses right at the start of the cycle. The worst side effects occur within
the first 3-4 days of use.

A first time user should not exceed 40mcg the first day. Increase by one tab
until the side effects are not tolerable

Example of a first cycle:

Day1: 20mcg
Day2: 40mcg
Day3: 60mcg
Day4: 80mcg
Day5: 80mcg(Note: Increase the dose only when the side effects are tolerable)
Day6-Day12: 100mcg
Day13: 80 mcg (Tapering is not necessary, but it helps some users get back to
normal gradually)
Day14: 60 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin/ NYC stack

Example of a second cycle:

Day1: 60mcg
Day2: 80mcg
Day3: 80mcg
Day4: 100mcg
Day5: 100mcg
Day6-Day12: 120mcg
Day13: 100 mcg
Day14: 80 mcgs
Day15: off
Day16: off
Day 17: eca - ephedrine - caffeine - aspirin/ NYC stack

What else do I need to know?

Taurine MUST be used with Clenbuterol at 3-5g daily. Clenbuterol depletes taurine
levels in the liver which stops the conversion of T4 to T3 in the liver.
Taurine allows the user to avoid the dreaded rebound effect and painful muscle
cramps. It's a must with Clenbuterol.

Clenbuterol should not be taken too close to a workout. It can interfere with
your breathing and complete ruin your workout. When doing cardio, it's
advisable to stay at a consistent pace and avoid HIIT style routines.

Do not take Clenbuterol Past 4pm and drink plenty of water; 1.5-2 gallons a day.

gear954
05-08-2008, 11:47 AM
Ok, so I was super excited when I got my clen in the mail yesterday. popped it open and they were little square bluish purpleish tabs with 20 on one side an B|P on the other side.

I immediately wanted to test them so i took 2 pills.. 30 minutes.. 1 hour.. I feel nothing?

So then I take 2 more pills about an hour and a half later and wait.. still nothing??

Has anyone got the same purple clen tabs that have good or bad experiences with them please share? I hear that clen doesn't always work for some people or maybe I just got a bunk batch..

thesasarasa
05-08-2008, 08:48 PM
my clen are small white tabs with a BP on one side and nothing on the other. they are def legit. i havent seen those ones though.

weingro
05-08-2008, 08:53 PM
mine are white too, bp just in one side, and after take 2 i dont stop shaking :)

gear954
05-09-2008, 10:11 AM
Do you all have the 40mcg tabs or the 20mcg tabs?

thesasarasa
05-09-2008, 11:07 AM
i beleive they said 40mcg on my packaging

yassir1
05-09-2008, 04:54 PM
the 20's and 40's are both white. and they work great. not sure why yours are colored that way way.

Houston7467
05-09-2008, 07:33 PM
Ok, so I was super excited when I got my clen in the mail yesterday. popped it open and they were little square bluish purpleish tabs with 20 on one side an B|P on the other side.

I immediately wanted to test them so i took 2 pills.. 30 minutes.. 1 hour.. I feel nothing?

So then I take 2 more pills about an hour and a half later and wait.. still nothing??

Has anyone got the same purple clen tabs that have good or bad experiences with them please share? I hear that clen doesn't always work for some people or maybe I just got a bunk batch..

I have the same purple clen tabs. I have been on them for a week and ahalf now and I can realy feel them. I could barely tolerate them at first cause it gave me headaches. I found that I was not drinking enough water. Once I increased my water intake I was fine. I have also notice some fat loss and I am more vascular.

joe4fsu
05-29-2008, 11:47 AM
Ok, so I was super excited when I got my clen in the mail yesterday. popped it open and they were little square bluish purpleish tabs with 20 on one side an B|P on the other side.

I immediately wanted to test them so i took 2 pills.. 30 minutes.. 1 hour.. I feel nothing?

So then I take 2 more pills about an hour and a half later and wait.. still nothing??

Has anyone got the same purple clen tabs that have good or bad experiences with them please share? I hear that clen doesn't always work for some people or maybe I just got a bunk batch..

YES! I got them (the same colors) and I did not feel the effect I had when I took ephedra (gitters, shaking, dry mouth, etc.) and that is what others told me it should feel like taking Clen. HOWEVER, I did get good results as for leaning out. It should be noted that I did not do a cycle before.. I just wanted to get a feel for it... I recently posted a thread under Anabolics about Clen's effectiveness on different people... No replies yet...

windowoody
05-29-2008, 01:38 PM
My clen r exactly the same and I had a hard time gettin my tolerance up . Every bit as good as any other brand I,ve had including spiropent and nihfi . I should say I mean the blue pills

cody3390
05-29-2008, 04:24 PM
i had the 20 purple ones, and i couldnt tolerate them so i gave them away after a week of using.. they were legit to me, i just couldnt handle it. couldnt even push the buttons on my fax machine at work

sharger
06-10-2008, 02:27 PM
Ok, so I was super excited when I got my clen in the mail yesterday. popped it open and they were little square bluish purpleish tabs with 20 on one side an B|P on the other side.

I immediately wanted to test them so i took 2 pills.. 30 minutes.. 1 hour.. I feel nothing?

So then I take 2 more pills about an hour and a half later and wait.. still nothing??

Has anyone got the same purple clen tabs that have good or bad experiences with them please share? I hear that clen doesn't always work for some people or maybe I just got a bunk batch..

Hi I have got the exact same pills..... Like you I tried 1 to test tollerence... nothing.... popped another 2 still nothing!

The next day I took 4 on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and guess what..... nothing!!

Whats the deal here anyone else getting issues?

Mr_Bishop
06-10-2008, 03:51 PM
Hi I have got the exact same pills..... Like you I tried 1 to test tollerence... nothing.... popped another 2 still nothing!

The next day I took 4 on an empty stomach first thing in the morning and guess what..... nothing!!

Whats the deal here anyone else getting issues?

I don't know what the deal is with your clen but to take that many pills could be a big mistake....especially if you just have a few bad pills in the bunch.

sliva32
06-10-2008, 04:08 PM
I don't know what the deal is with your clen but to take that many pills could be a big mistake....especially if you just have a few bad pills in the bunch.

BIG BUMP!!! I have the bp clen, 40mcg's but they are white and square. And they are helping me lean out very nicely.

rackaholic21
11-25-2008, 07:28 AM
same deal i just ordered some of the clen 20mcg BP and they are purple/blue and i did a test and it had no effect on me no shaking no nothing ive took clen before and they were white and i definitely could tell they were working, i had bad shakes and my heart would always pound and they were also 20's so i dont know what the deal is with these purple/blue ones

jerrymitch
11-26-2008, 07:35 PM
the ones i have are white at 40mcg