second cycle (cutting) help

[Siegfried]

hi guys did you miss me? I went on vacation lol :)
well I'm planing on doing my second cycle.

thing is I wanna plan a my secon cycle, I'm 5'7" 198 lbs 9% BF(by hydrostatic) my objective is to get down to 6, or even 3% BF, I'm planing to enter my first contest if my results are good enougth.

I'm planing to use t3 and clen as cutting aid, I'm planing to add another compound, would tren be ok? or is it too much for a second cycle?? some people have told me to go ahead and get ailin's cutting cyle, while others say 3 compounds is too much for a second time user.

thnaks for everything guys, I'm looking foward to your suggestions :)

[Siegfried]

by the way, "test is test" I don't like pinning myself EOD, so I'm planning od using long esters and front-loading, but if it is not a good idea, I'll do it EOD.

[Hockey265]

Can you please lay out your proposed cycle for us. Also, test is not test. different esters effect water retention levels

[Ryansway]

Id say try out Anavar at like 70mg/day for last 6 weeks and testE at 500mg for 10 weeks, with something like I-dex e/d, just figure id throw in my .2

[jjgonz]

50mg/day would be more than enough for the anavar...and bump hockey test is not just test...granted diet controls everything but any long estered test will give you more bloat...period...sust has short esters as well hence less bloat than c or e...prop is the driest way to go...i wont run t3 with out test or anavar at the least...you will lose a lot of muscle...so your best bet is deal with eod pinning and run prop...no tren not yet...and use t3 and clen...if you wanted to you could grab some ketotifen so you can run the clen for 6 weeks with the t3 and push the prop to 8 weeks or keep it at 6

[Siegfried]

50mg/day would be more than enough for the anavar...and bump hockey test is not just test...granted diet controls everything but any long estered test will give you more bloat...period...sust has short esters as well hence less bloat than c or e...prop is the driest way to go...i wont run t3 with out test or anavar at the least...you will lose a lot of muscle...so your best bet is deal with eod pinning and run prop...no tren not yet...and use t3 and clen...if you wanted to you could grab some ketotifen so you can run the clen for 6 weeks with the t3 and push the prop to 8 weeks or keep it at 6

thanks man, I will get prop then :), not yet tren right??

ok so I'm thinking of ussing test prop an anavar as gear, and then T3 and clen as cutting aid, anny suggestions on the dosagges for a second time user?

[Siegfried]

Can you please lay out your proposed cycle for us. Also, test is not test. different esters effect water retention levels

interesting< I read about this before, but thanks to you guys I know is the best way to go whit short sters :)

[Siegfried]

ook since itis my second cycle, tren is not a good idea yet, so what about this:

week 1-8 test prop 150 mg EOD
weeo 2-8 anavar os winny

and ussing t3 the first 6 weeks and clen 2 on 2 off, whit the usual PCT

JHC would not be nessesary rigth

[The BB Monad]

I'd add Prop EOD and some Anavar at 50mg ED too.

[Siegfried]

I'd add Prop EOD and some Anavar at 50mg ED too.

the test pro at 150 MG EOD would be ok rigth?

[Tyrone]

Did you hit up Phil or one of the pro bb'ing trainers yet?