ADVICE!!! TEST E 500MG WEEK OR SUST. 500MG WEEK???

[Jamesman44]

HI EVERYONE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I HAVE POSTED A THREAD ON THE BOARD I MISS YOU ALL :( HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING GOOD.

NOW I HAVE SOME COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS (SEE BELOW)

I AM CURRENTLY 22 YEARS OLD, 5'10, 185LBS., AND I AM INTERESTED IN STARTING ANOTHER SIMPLE CYCLE. MY LAST CYCLE WAS (SEE BELOW)

WEEK 1-10 SUST. 500MG
WEEK 1-10 EQ 400MG
THEN THE NORMAL PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED

NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM THAT CYCLE WAS HARD ON MY HEART SO MY BODY DID NOT TAKE IT TO WELL... HIGH BP AND HEART PALPLS... I DID GO TO MY DOCTOR TOLD HER I DID A CYCLE OF AAS SO I GOT BLOOD WORK AND EKG EVERYTHING CAME BACK PERFECT... SO NOW THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR MY NEXT CYCLE (SEE BELOW)

SUST. OR TEST E?????

WEEK 1-10 500MG SUST. OR WEEK 1-10 500MG TEST E WITH THE STANDARD PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED.... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE SUST? OR TEST E? I WANT TO DO A SIMPLE CYCLE THAT I WILL GAIN ABOUT 10LBS. FROM AND NOT TO HARD ON THE HEART LIKE THE LAST CYCLE?? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO STACK IT WITH ANYTHING AND DO YOU THINK I WILL SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH GOOD DIET, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND GOOD SLEEP???

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVICE AND THANKS TO ALL :)

[FordTurboDiesel]

500 Test E. Keep it simple.(edit) I might add, perhaps your better off reducing dosage slightly and going for duration. That may or may not help your situation. I think everyone needs to experiment with whats best.

Good training, diet and sleep is always a prerequisite.

[mad078]

How many times have you been told no?

[lola26]

HI EVERYONE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I HAVE POSTED A THREAD ON THE BOARD I MISS YOU ALL :( HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING GOOD.

NOW I HAVE SOME COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS (SEE BELOW)

I AM CURRENTLY 22 YEARS OLD, 5'10, 185LBS., AND I AM INTERESTED IN STARTING ANOTHER SIMPLE CYCLE. MY LAST CYCLE WAS (SEE BELOW)

WEEK 1-10 SUST. 500MG
WEEK 1-10 EQ 400MG
THEN THE NORMAL PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED

NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM THAT CYCLE WAS HARD ON MY HEART SO MY BODY DID NOT TAKE IT TO WELL... HIGH BP AND HEART PALPLS... I DID GO TO MY DOCTOR TOLD HER I DID A CYCLE OF AAS SO I GOT BLOOD WORK AND EKG EVERYTHING CAME BACK PERFECT... SO NOW THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR MY NEXT CYCLE (SEE BELOW)

SUST. OR TEST E?????

WEEK 1-10 500MG SUST. OR WEEK 1-10 500MG TEST E WITH THE STANDARD PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED.... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE SUST? OR TEST E? I WANT TO DO A SIMPLE CYCLE THAT I WILL GAIN ABOUT 10LBS. FROM AND NOT TO HARD ON THE HEART LIKE THE LAST CYCLE?? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO STACK IT WITH ANYTHING AND DO YOU THINK I WILL SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH GOOD DIET, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND GOOD SLEEP???

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVICE AND THANKS TO ALL :)


you again... how many times do we have to tell you. STAY AWAY FROM AAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyone giving this guy advise should 1. look at his previous posts 2. look at his pic.

[lola26]

look at his new avatar pic... this is after a cycle or 2!

[SteroidalTendency]

snap! Strip the fat off bro, it sucks to hear, but you will be alot happier if you do

[Audel]

Bump lola and steroidal. You should not be taking any AAS until you drop your body fat. You want to be at least under 15% before starting. With your heart condition and what happened with you last cycle, I would even say you should never do AAS. It's just not worth cycling if you're just risking your health.

Also, get your caps lock key fixed on your keyboard. It appears to be broken. :D

[Hockey265]

you again... how many times do we have to tell you. STAY AWAY FROM AAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

anyone giving this guy advise should 1. look at his previous posts 2. look at his pic.
A big bump to this. you've done 2 cycles and your still a fat ass! You brought the flaming on yourself.

[jjgonz]

dude...you got high bp cuz your overweight...and the gear does it as well...youve been told time and time again not to cycle until you lean out...and unless you just havent changed your avatar it seems you have done absolutely nothing to step in the right direction...ive come to the point where i dont think you have any dedication and are just looking for the easy way out...so im done helping and giving advice...get your fucking ass on the treadmill twice a day..."i have high blood pressure" is this guy serious:mad::mad:

[SwoleTexasKid]

HI EVERYONE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I HAVE POSTED A THREAD ON THE BOARD I MISS YOU ALL :( HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING GOOD.

NOW I HAVE SOME COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS (SEE BELOW)

I AM CURRENTLY 22 YEARS OLD, 5'10, 185LBS., AND I AM INTERESTED IN STARTING ANOTHER SIMPLE CYCLE. MY LAST CYCLE WAS (SEE BELOW)

WEEK 1-10 SUST. 500MG
WEEK 1-10 EQ 400MG
THEN THE NORMAL PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED

NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM THAT CYCLE WAS HARD ON MY HEART SO MY BODY DID NOT TAKE IT TO WELL... HIGH BP AND HEART PALPLS... I DID GO TO MY DOCTOR TOLD HER I DID A CYCLE OF AAS SO I GOT BLOOD WORK AND EKG EVERYTHING CAME BACK PERFECT... SO NOW THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR MY NEXT CYCLE (SEE BELOW)

SUST. OR TEST E?????

WEEK 1-10 500MG SUST. OR WEEK 1-10 500MG TEST E WITH THE STANDARD PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED.... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE SUST? OR TEST E? I WANT TO DO A SIMPLE CYCLE THAT I WILL GAIN ABOUT 10LBS. FROM AND NOT TO HARD ON THE HEART LIKE THE LAST CYCLE?? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO STACK IT WITH ANYTHING AND DO YOU THINK I WILL SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH GOOD DIET, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND GOOD SLEEP???

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVICE AND THANKS TO ALL :)

Hey Bros, D is a good guy, he just needs advice...dont be too hard on him. Bod flamed him worse than any of you could even try last time anyhow...:(:p

When you reach a lower bodyfat level, I think this could work for you, but D, find out about those palpatations and the cause of them from a doctor. That sounds like something that could lead to serious injury or death if any kind of testosterone affects you like that.

[juced_porkchop]

sry but i think lola is 150% right. if that you in the pic... your lookin for easy way out.

use that$$ for a shit load of green teat have 4 cups aday and do cardio 20-30min 2X a day and throw in some cla, fishoil and protien drinks in your diet.
go low on carbs later on in the day. and plz dont use aas. hey i want to gain 50lbs and loos 5lb of fat on my next cycle but guess what aas wont do that. its only a tool to use when every thing els is in check.

eat healthy. lift hard 3 times a week and do cardio 4 times a week atleast.

good luck!

[FordTurboDiesel]

After looking at the avatar, I regret even giving advice. BF needs to come down.....Alot.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Its not current. Hes at 183 now.

[buzzkill44]

none the less he should lose some bf. if he looks anything like the avatar he is probably 30% fat. damn lazy people. fuckin lift, eat right (low fat in his case), and do some damn cardio. what's your reason for doin aas anyway?

[lunny]

look at his new avatar pic... this is after a cycle or 2!

No shit lola good lookin out bro!!!!!!! this kid is 185 in his bra!!!! way to fat to be doing any kind of cycle!!!!!

[jdchaffin]

James, just for a point of refference. you are being told (as well as many others) to drop body fat because testosterone aromatizes (changes) into estrogen in adipose (fat) tissue. by reducing body fat to at least 15% (lower being better) you will drastically drop the potential for unwanted side effects. on top of this you complained of heart problems brought on by aas. that should be enough warning right there. hit the treadmill. it will help with body fat and heart issues. there is not a single aas out there that will help you if you don't know the basics of training and dieting.

[deepblue]

James, just for a point of refference. you are being told (as well as many others) to drop body fat because testosterone aromatizes (changes) into estrogen in adipose (fat) tissue. by reducing body fat to at least 15% (lower being better) you will drastically drop the potential for unwanted side effects. on top of this you complained of heart problems brought on by aas. that should be enough warning right there. hit the treadmill. it will help with body fat and heart issues. there is not a single aas out there that will help you if you don't know the basics of training and dieting.Man you have been banged on enough so I wont go there.All these guys are rightand mean well.Im with chaffin get that heart fucking checked and check that diet as well.You can make some quick gains with cardio lifting and diet alone.Just stick with it .Good luck.And post some knew picts.

[deepblue]

Oh yah fix that fucking bloody key fella!

[IronBod]

HI EVERYONE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I HAVE POSTED A THREAD ON THE BOARD I MISS YOU ALL :( HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING GOOD.

NOW I HAVE SOME COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS (SEE BELOW)

I AM CURRENTLY 22 YEARS OLD, 5'10, 185LBS., AND I AM INTERESTED IN STARTING ANOTHER SIMPLE CYCLE. MY LAST CYCLE WAS (SEE BELOW)

WEEK 1-10 SUST. 500MG
WEEK 1-10 EQ 400MG
THEN THE NORMAL PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED

NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM THAT CYCLE WAS HARD ON MY HEART SO MY BODY DID NOT TAKE IT TO WELL... HIGH BP AND HEART PALPLS... I DID GO TO MY DOCTOR TOLD HER I DID A CYCLE OF AAS SO I GOT BLOOD WORK AND EKG EVERYTHING CAME BACK PERFECT... SO NOW THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR MY NEXT CYCLE (SEE BELOW)

SUST. OR TEST E?????

WEEK 1-10 500MG SUST. OR WEEK 1-10 500MG TEST E WITH THE STANDARD PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED.... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE SUST? OR TEST E? I WANT TO DO A SIMPLE CYCLE THAT I WILL GAIN ABOUT 10LBS. FROM AND NOT TO HARD ON THE HEART LIKE THE LAST CYCLE?? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO STACK IT WITH ANYTHING AND DO YOU THINK I WILL SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH GOOD DIET, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND GOOD SLEEP???

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVICE AND THANKS TO ALL :)

What advice are you wanting James ? :confused:
Do you want us to lie. What are you expecting to hear ? = Go ahead
James run the cycle and dont worry about your heart or bodyfat. :confused:

Your heart is having a hard time dealing with all the extra weight now !!!!!!!
Using gear is only going to worsen the condition . In more ways than one !!

It seems to me, your on some kind of death wish. Go have a test run on
your chlosterol levels. I bet you will find, that your levels are elevated way
above normal, already. Now, you start using 500mg Test and those levels
are only going to rise. What does this mean ??? Your chances of having
a STROKE of HEART ATTACK has incresed BIG TIME !

I think busskill44, guess of 30% BF is about right. What does this mean ??
Get your ASS on a treadmill, bike, etc............ And get your diet in check.
Or just keep this reckless attitude, and kiss your ASS GOODBYE !

Good luck to you Kid. I hope you make the right decision before its to late.

[flart]

HI EVERYONE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I HAVE POSTED A THREAD ON THE BOARD I MISS YOU ALL :( HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING GOOD.

NOW I HAVE SOME COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS (SEE BELOW)

I AM CURRENTLY 22 YEARS OLD, 5'10, 185LBS., AND I AM INTERESTED IN STARTING ANOTHER SIMPLE CYCLE. MY LAST CYCLE WAS (SEE BELOW)

WEEK 1-10 SUST. 500MG
WEEK 1-10 EQ 400MG
THEN THE NORMAL PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED

NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM THAT CYCLE WAS HARD ON MY HEART SO MY BODY DID NOT TAKE IT TO WELL... HIGH BP AND HEART PALPLS... I DID GO TO MY DOCTOR TOLD HER I DID A CYCLE OF AAS SO I GOT BLOOD WORK AND EKG EVERYTHING CAME BACK PERFECT... SO NOW THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR MY NEXT CYCLE (SEE BELOW)

SUST. OR TEST E?????

WEEK 1-10 500MG SUST. OR WEEK 1-10 500MG TEST E WITH THE STANDARD PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED.... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE SUST? OR TEST E? I WANT TO DO A SIMPLE CYCLE THAT I WILL GAIN ABOUT 10LBS. FROM AND NOT TO HARD ON THE HEART LIKE THE LAST CYCLE?? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO STACK IT WITH ANYTHING AND DO YOU THINK I WILL SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH GOOD DIET, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND GOOD SLEEP???

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVICE AND THANKS TO ALL :)

Is that you in the pic?

You gotta drop some bf bro before you think of running AAS.

First Cycle:

Week 1-18: Cardio eod
Week 1-~: DIET

[sliva32]

It sure is warm on this thread with all the flaming going on....but BIG BUMP on dropping some BF...if you order it through a box with a menu around it...DON'T eat it!!!

[Jamesman44]

Hey everyone thanks for your advice it does make sense to lose weight and do cardio i agree to get my heart healthy... Now i ended my last cycle in November of 2007 and had a full physical that was worth $10,000 in testing my doc said because i asked and lucky insurance covered every penny of it. Now all my blood work was normal and nothing was elevated Doc. told me that my body fat was high and the gear was hard on my heart because of that and my body was in shock basically telling me to STOP witch i did around week 9 1/2. Now for my next cycle when my BF% drops i want to run a simple cycle like i said and my Doc agreed if i have heart side effects on that then just give up AAS and never use it again. Doc said even if i run 250mg Sust or 250mg Test E for 10 weeks. But keep in mind everyone this is later on down the road.????

[ojs]

Hey everyone thanks for your advice it does make sense to lose weight and do cardio i agree to get my heart healthy... Now i ended my last cycle in November of 2007 and had a full physical that was worth $10,000 in testing my doc said because i asked and lucky insurance covered every penny of it. Now all my blood work was normal and nothing was elevated Doc. told me that my body fat was high and the gear was hard on my heart because of that and my body was in shock basically telling me to STOP witch i did around week 9 1/2. Now for my next cycle when my BF% drops i want to run a simple cycle like i said and my Doc agreed if i have heart side effects on that then just give up AAS and never use it again. Doc said even if i run 250mg Sust or 250mg Test E for 10 weeks. But keep in mind everyone this is later on down the road.????
How much do you weight today? And is that avatar picture current? If not, post a current picture.

Stop asking about AAS. Ask about diet and cardio. Post your diet. Post your cardio schedule. Anything else, your wasting everyone's time.

[Jamesman44]

i currently weight 185lbs. and not the avatar is not current i would have to buy a camera to put another pic up.

i understand about stopping asking about AAS but i am going to run another cycle in my life and if i die then i die fuck it bottom line it was stupid.. but if i have common sense lose weight, eat healthy, cardio and run a light cycle i should not have any problems. hope for the best prepare for the worst.. i am going to a heart specialist to get a full physical on my heart as well.

How much do you weight today? And is that avatar picture current? If not, post a current picture.

Stop asking about AAS. Ask about diet and cardio. Post your diet. Post your cardio schedule. Anything else, your wasting everyone's time.

[IronBod]

i currently weight 185lbs. and not the avatar is not current i would have to buy a camera to put another pic up.

i understand about stopping asking about AAS but i am going to run another cycle in my life and if i die then i die fuck it bottom line it was stupid.. but if i have common sense lose weight, eat healthy, cardio and run a light cycle i should not have any problems. hope for the best prepare for the worst.. i am going to a heart specialist to get a full physical on my heart as well.

Great ideal James, better safe than sorry. Good luck Bro.

[trickk034]

i currently weight 185lbs. and not the avatar is not current i would have to buy a camera to put another pic up.

i understand about stopping asking about AAS but i am going to run another cycle in my life and if i die then i die fuck it bottom line it was stupid.. but if i have common sense lose weight, eat healthy, cardio and run a light cycle i should not have any problems. hope for the best prepare for the worst.. i am going to a heart specialist to get a full physical on my heart as well.

WTF??? You are STUPID! that was some of the most ignorant shit I've read here. You are the reason our hobby has a bad name you dumb Asshole! You don't belong here. Steal your sister's Huffy, ride a few hundred miles uphill and quit being worthless! :mad::mad::mad: dick

[lola26]

omg...wtf...

[Aussiemuscle]

i currently weight 185lbs. and not the avatar is not current i would have to buy a camera to put another pic up.

i understand about stopping asking about AAS but i am going to run another cycle in my life and if i die then i die fuck it bottom line it was stupid.. but if i have common sense lose weight, eat healthy, cardio and run a light cycle i should not have any problems. hope for the best prepare for the worst.. i am going to a heart specialist to get a full physical on my heart as well.

what the fuck are you doing even contemplaiting taking steroids mate, i would be ashamed to post a pic of myself on a steroid board if i was in your shape, you dont look like you have touched a weight in your life,
TRAIN
EAT
SLEEP
like a bodybuilder for a year or two then get on the goodness. your gonna hurt yourself doing it sooner expecialy with a heart condition, and steroid use doesnt need anymore of a bad reputation than it has already got,

[flart]

what the fuck are you doing even contemplaiting taking steroids mate, i would be ashamed to post a pic of myself on a steroid board if i was in your shape, you dont look like you have touched a weight in your life,
TRAIN
EAT
SLEEP
like a bodybuilder for a year or two then get on the goodness. your gonna hurt yourself doing it sooner expecialy with a heart condition, and steroid use doesnt need anymore of a bad reputation than it has already got,

I don't think anyone needs to be ashamed of who they are...not all of us have the genetics to get as big, as fast, and as symetrical as others.

That doesn't mean he can't achieve his goals with a little hard work and dedication - something AAS will not give you.

The first thing on the agenda for him should be to go and get his heart looked at...

Second learn how to train and eat...

It's amazing where you'll get with the right attitude and dedication.

Listen man...I'll post some pics...but 3 years ago I was a whopping 5'9" and 135lbs....if I look at pics of myself back then...I looked like I was sick and dying.

I'm not even close to the biggest guy on this board or in my gym...but I type to you now at 190lbs...and I'm on my 5th week of my first cycle of test-e.

You look like a young dude...and have a lot of time to reach your goals...don't cut your life short by being an idiot - you won't get any bigger lying dead in a box 6 feet under.

[IronBod]

Why are you bros flaming James ? If you read his last posts, he is
trying to say, hes going to drop BF, eat healthy, cardio, and get
his heart checked out. Then he is going to run another cycle of low
dosed test 250mg wk.

I just dont think his words came out right.:confused:

[FordTurboDiesel]

..............at least he's been honest.

He shouldn't get reamed for that.

[Aussiemuscle]

I don't think anyone needs to be ashamed of who they are...not all of us have the genetics to get as big, as fast, and as symetrical as others.

That doesn't mean he can't achieve his goals with a little hard work and dedication - something AAS will not give you.

The first thing on the agenda for him should be to go and get his heart looked at...

Second learn how to train and eat...

It's amazing where you'll get with the right attitude and dedication.

Listen man...I'll post some pics...but 3 years ago I was a whopping 5'9" and 135lbs....if I look at pics of myself back then...I looked like I was sick and dying.

I'm not even close to the biggest guy on this board or in my gym...but I type to you now at 190lbs...and I'm on my 5th week of my first cycle of test-e.

You look like a young dude...and have a lot of time to reach your goals...don't cut your life short by being an idiot - you won't get any bigger lying dead in a box 6 feet under.
bullshit flart people should be ashamed of thier flaws, i am of mine, i think james needed to be reminded of his, eating too much training too little, he does need incouragement but not from here unless its in the diet or training section, im sure james is a nice man and he needs to here it like a man not a child, wake the fuck up before you hurt yourself james and do it natural for a year come back post a pic of yourself lookin like a machine and tell every prick in here that flamed you to arse rape themselves, including myself:)
flart congrats on the body transformation 55 pounds in three years awsome achievment :D

[flart]

..............at least he's been honest.

He shouldn't get reamed for that.

I think James added fuel to the fire by saying that if he dies in the process of trying to get big, so be it (no his exact words).

That's not the proper attitude to have for any goal you have in life.

Anyway...the dude seems to be working on what's important...and eventually he'll be better prepared to take on AAS if that's what he wants - not something I'd advocate with his history of heart problems.

But anyway...to say to someone "if I looked like that I wouldn't post my pic in a steroid forum" is completely uncalled for.

I wonder how many newbies come on here and completely misrepresent themselves just to get the green light from the vets and a false sense of security.

Fuck man...let's see pics of members before they started training with any sort of dedication and diet. A before and after thread :D

I'll post some before and after in 8 weeks...I think my daughter had bigger arms than me 3 years ago. :o

[flart]

bullshit flart people should be ashamed of thier flaws, i am of mine, i think james needed to be reminded of his, eating too much training too little, he does need incouragement but not from here unless its in the diet or training section, im sure james is a nice man and he needs to here it like a man not a child, wake the fuck up before you hurt yourself james and do it natural for a year come back post a pic of yourself lookin like a machine and tell every prick in here that flamed you to arse rape themselves, including myself:)
flart congrats on the body transformation 55 pounds in three years awsome achievment :D

I think shame gets you no where. You can be dissatisfied with what you look like and make an effort to improve yourself...but you'll need all the confidece and self esteem in the world to hit the iron and stay motivated because as we can all testify to...IT'S A HARD GAME!!!

When I started training...I would wear baggy track pants and baggy long sleeve top because I was embarassed to be around these monsters in the gym. It wasn't until I woke up on day...put on a tank-top...and said fuck it...I'm going in there to work...who gives a shit if I can't put to plates on the bar.

Now all I do is wear tank tops :D

Anyway...thanks for the compliment...those 55 lbs came with a lot of work....it's become an obession (ask my wife) and the obession continues to grow.

You gotta remember though....I was WAY below a natural weight due to poor eating habits....as soon as I got the diet going...the lbs came...the weights got lighter...and I grew.

Like I said....not to hijack...I will post before and after at the end of my 1st cycle. I gotta crack 200!!

JAMES - KEEP YOUR HEAD UP BRO...I KNOW IT'S SEEMS IMPOSSIBLE...BUT IT WILL ALL COME TOGETHER :cool:

[Aussiemuscle]

i know my posts may seem a bit harsh to james but six years ago i had a hard drug habbit i weighed 93kg 30% bodyfat and had 60% of a disc removed from my spine, one night i got gang bashed by some guys over drugs, while they were stompin on my head they were callin me a fat junky, piss weak, all that sort of stuff the second i was better i did something about it, ditched the drugs and joined the gym even though my surgen told me i should never lift anymore than 20kg, that arse kickin hurt for a week or two but it was the best thing that ever happened to me, some people need a little bit of a arse kickin and if i can do it alot of others can too, i am a part time pt and i have alot of people come to me from the recomendations they get about my strait to the point no bullshit attitude

[Alin]

HI EVERYONE IT'S BEEN A LONG TIME SINCE I HAVE POSTED A THREAD ON THE BOARD I MISS YOU ALL :( HOPE EVERYONE IS DOING GOOD.

NOW I HAVE SOME COUPLE QUICK QUESTIONS (SEE BELOW)

I AM CURRENTLY 22 YEARS OLD, 5'10, 185LBS., AND I AM INTERESTED IN STARTING ANOTHER SIMPLE CYCLE. MY LAST CYCLE WAS (SEE BELOW)

WEEK 1-10 SUST. 500MG
WEEK 1-10 EQ 400MG
THEN THE NORMAL PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED

NOW HERE IS MY PROBLEM THAT CYCLE WAS HARD ON MY HEART SO MY BODY DID NOT TAKE IT TO WELL... HIGH BP AND HEART PALPLS... I DID GO TO MY DOCTOR TOLD HER I DID A CYCLE OF AAS SO I GOT BLOOD WORK AND EKG EVERYTHING CAME BACK PERFECT... SO NOW THIS IS WHAT I WANNA DO FOR MY NEXT CYCLE (SEE BELOW)

SUST. OR TEST E?????

WEEK 1-10 500MG SUST. OR WEEK 1-10 500MG TEST E WITH THE STANDARD PCT AND ARM.0.25 ED.... WHAT WOULD YOU RECOMMEND THE SUST? OR TEST E? I WANT TO DO A SIMPLE CYCLE THAT I WILL GAIN ABOUT 10LBS. FROM AND NOT TO HARD ON THE HEART LIKE THE LAST CYCLE?? I DON'T REALLY WANT TO STACK IT WITH ANYTHING AND DO YOU THINK I WILL SEE GOOD RESULTS WITH GOOD DIET, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND GOOD SLEEP???

PLEASE GIVE ME YOUR ADVICE AND THANKS TO ALL :)

you cant go wrong with SUST or TEST ENAN...If you like less injects,,,,try the TEST ENAN.

[Jamesman44]

Alright everyone i understand and i want to thank everyone again about your opinions...

Now i have some final questions and i want to here honest answers please? (SEE BELOW)

If i workout naturally for 1 year straight, keep a good diet, do lots of cardio, lose weight, drop BF and get my heart check DO YOU THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER CYCLE OF AAS? I would really like to but i understand what i have to do 1st and i will do it. But i want to know opinions should/can i do another cycle?? What does make sense is lots of cardio, fish oil, garlic and eating healthy = HEALTHY HEART... I really wanna do another cycle and by the way my BP is perfect today i checked it and was 125/69 with 79 beats per minute and i weight 184/185lbs. i did 45minutes of cardio tonight.

thanks everyone =]

[ojs]

Alright everyone i understand and i want to thank everyone again about your opinions...

Now i have some final questions and i want to here honest answers please? (SEE BELOW)

If i workout naturally for 1 year straight, keep a good diet, do lots of cardio, lose weight, drop BF and get my heart check DO YOU THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER CYCLE OF AAS? I would really like to but i understand what i have to do 1st and i will do it. But i want to know opinions should/can i do another cycle?? What does make sense is lots of cardio, fish oil, garlic and eating healthy = HEALTHY HEART... I really wanna do another cycle and by the way my BP is perfect today i checked it and was 125/69 with 79 beats per minute and i weight 184/185lbs. i did 45minutes of cardio tonight.

thanks everyone =]
My understanding is that clinical dosages of Testosterone actually strengthen the heart. So remember that when it's time to do the cycle. Keep the test dosage relatively low. 250-375mg per week is good. More may start to stress your heart. Stay away from DBol and Anadrol for sure.

[Aussiemuscle]

Alright everyone i understand and i want to thank everyone again about your opinions...

Now i have some final questions and i want to here honest answers please? (SEE BELOW)

If i workout naturally for 1 year straight, keep a good diet, do lots of cardio, lose weight, drop BF and get my heart check DO YOU THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER CYCLE OF AAS? I would really like to but i understand what i have to do 1st and i will do it. But i want to know opinions should/can i do another cycle?? What does make sense is lots of cardio, fish oil, garlic and eating healthy = HEALTHY HEART... I really wanna do another cycle and by the way my BP is perfect today i checked it and was 125/69 with 79 beats per minute and i weight 184/185lbs. i did 45minutes of cardio tonight.

thanks everyone =]

you got it mate, you would be as able as any of us, good luck mate you will get there, you obviously have your mind set right:)

[Jamesman44]

My understanding is that clinical dosages of Testosterone actually strengthen the heart. So remember that when it's time to do the cycle. Keep the test dosage relatively low. 250-375mg per week is good. More may start to stress your heart. Stay away from DBol and Anadrol for sure.

DAMMM MAN THANKS FOR LETTING ME KNOW CAUSE I WAS GONNA TAKE ANADROL BUT I KNOW ITS TOXIC TO LIVER AND NOW I GUESS I KNOW IT FUCKS WITH THE HEART BUT THAT WAS GOOD INFO THANKS A LOT.

WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ME TAKING CLEN TO LOSE WEIGHT?

[Jamesman44]

you got it mate, you would be as able as any of us, good luck mate you will get there, you obviously have your mind set right:)

THANKS MAN YES I TAKE BACK ALL THAT "IF I DIE THEN FUCK IT" TALK BECAUSE THAT IS NOT RIGHT.

[Jamesman44]

My understanding is that clinical dosages of Testosterone actually strengthen the heart. So remember that when it's time to do the cycle. Keep the test dosage relatively low. 250-375mg per week is good. More may start to stress your heart. Stay away from DBol and Anadrol for sure.

WILL I STILL SEE SOME GOOD RESULTS WITH 250MG-375MG WEEK? I KNOW I HAVE TO HAVE A GOOD DIET, SLEEP, WORKOUT ROUTINE AND LOWER BF% LOL

[trickk034]

Alright everyone i understand and i want to thank everyone again about your opinions...

Now i have some final questions and i want to here honest answers please? (SEE BELOW)

If i workout naturally for 1 year straight, keep a good diet, do lots of cardio, lose weight, drop BF and get my heart check DO YOU THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER CYCLE OF AAS? I would really like to but i understand what i have to do 1st and i will do it. But i want to know opinions should/can i do another cycle?? What does make sense is lots of cardio, fish oil, garlic and eating healthy = HEALTHY HEART... I really wanna do another cycle and by the way my BP is perfect today i checked it and was 125/69 with 79 beats per minute and i weight 184/185lbs. i did 45minutes of cardio tonight.

thanks everyone =]

I promise to lighten the load of the flame job I gave you if you can honestly complete this task. This would be a huge step forward for you and we would be proud. Do it bro. Good Luck. :)

[jdchaffin]

Alright everyone i understand and i want to thank everyone again about your opinions...

Now i have some final questions and i want to here honest answers please? (SEE BELOW)

If i workout naturally for 1 year straight, keep a good diet, do lots of cardio, lose weight, drop BF and get my heart check DO YOU THINK I WILL BE ABLE TO DO ANOTHER CYCLE OF AAS? I would really like to but i understand what i have to do 1st and i will do it. But i want to know opinions should/can i do another cycle?? What does make sense is lots of cardio, fish oil, garlic and eating healthy = HEALTHY HEART... I really wanna do another cycle and by the way my BP is perfect today i checked it and was 125/69 with 79 beats per minute and i weight 184/185lbs. i did 45minutes of cardio tonight.

thanks everyone =]

If you do this you will not only be more suited to aas physically. but you will be better mentally prepaired to make the most of a cycle. good luck.

[FordTurboDiesel]

Flart, I agree.

Actually...I agree with everyone so far.

James, with proper diet and training you could lose most of what you have sooner than a year.
I lost 20lbs in a month through diet and walking on the treadmill for an hour everyday. Im not saying that I was ready for ass becasue of that, but if you put your head to it, you can burn that weight off. Then get yourself stronger physically.

[rc29]

I definitely wouldnt use clen to help in the weight loss. If you have heart problems clen will only make them worse. Do complete research on everything you put in your body. These guys will help you out a lot on here, but you need to do some research on you own as well!

[trickk034]

Flart, I agree.

Actually...I agree with everyone so far.

James, with proper diet and training you could lose most of what you have sooner than a year.
I lost 20lbs in a month through diet and walking on the treadmill for an hour everyday. Im not saying that I was ready for ass because of that, but if you put your head to it, you can burn that weight off. Then get yourself stronger physically.

sorry to hi-jack the tread, but im lmao at that Ford! :p:p:p

[FordTurboDiesel]

sorry to hi-jack the tread, but im lmao at that Ford! :p:p:p

LOL@myself!
:D

[ojs]

LOL@myself!
:D

Hahaha!!! Although I have to admit I've not heard of that weight loss technique, your flexibility is just incredible!! :eek:

[flart]

Hahaha!!! Although I have to admit I've not heard of that weight loss technique, your flexibility is just incredible!! :eek:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


http://personal.ecu.edu/wuenschk/humor/HeadUpAss-Naked.jpg

[tpd01883]

Bro you're not ready for AAS. This has been said so many times already. In your condition it doesn't even look like you know how to diet. AAS will not yeild your desired results if you cannot even diet. And honestly if you're lifting for figure I would not worry about muscle size until I was under atleast 15% bodyfat or so, as whats the point of having all that awesome muscle if you can't even show it off...? BTW if you have a heart condition and you want to live a long, healthy life......I HIGHLY suggest staying away from AAS...As much as they're not linked to long term heart problems, theres more than enough anecdotal evidence to look at and make educated guesses as to the long term effects.

The increase in blood pressure will put a lot of strain on your heart, and the shift in cholesterol values for the worse will cause your arteries to become less elastic at an earlier age causing permanent very hard to deal with problems with blood pressure, and greatly increased risk of stroke.

Many on the forum may disagree with what i have said above, I'm trying to preach about how bad AAS are. I'm simply stating the fact that messing up hdl/ldl ratios(and anyone who has had precycle/postcycle bloodwork knows that aas can and do do this to you) will almost surely lead to heart problems.

Most people who cycle responsibly only have bad cholesterol levels for a few months out of the year, it's the continuation of this poor ratio year after year that causes the major problems in most people.

My overall point with this rant is that IF YOU HAVE HEART PROBLEMS DON'T USE ANABOLIC STEROIDS.

Also 125/69 is in the high range of normal. On my last cycle, which was mild, the highest my bp got was about 130/70.

[deepblue]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!


http://personal.ecu.edu/wuenschk/humor/HeadUpAss-Naked.jpgNot to hijack this guys dramatic thread and us all trying to save his life,but is that picture real or fake ,that is fucking crazy.:eek:

[Aussiemuscle]

Not to hijack this guys dramatic thread and us all trying to save his life,but is that picture real or fake ,that is fucking crazy.:eek:

think its real it looks like my girlfriend when she is in a bad mood:D:D:D:D:D

[ojs]

Not to hijack this guys dramatic thread and us all trying to save his life,but is that picture real or fake ,that is fucking crazy.:eek:Oh, it's real all right. That there is FordTurboDiesel's special weight loss technique in action!! :D:D:D:D:D:D

[SteroidalTendency]

bump tpd.. remember aas is considered safe among healthy adult males

[deepblue]

thats to funny bros .Ive seen it all now.Well almost .

[FordTurboDiesel]

Oh, it's real all right. That there is FordTurboDiesel's special weight loss technique in action!! :D:D:D:D:D:D

........just keeping my eye on the gerbal, that's all.:D


eh....no. not real.