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Fattyliver
04-09-2008, 12:01 PM
Hi guys Iīm cofused I know that finasteride good work with derivates arnieīs of test, and not work with Dht, but my doubt is..Is a good idea with Tren and Deca?

Thx in advance and thx for read this thread.

metalcavy87
04-09-2008, 12:07 PM
Hi guys I´m cofused I know that finasteride good work with derivates arnie´s of test, and not work with Dht, but my doubt is..Is a good idea with Tren and Deca?

Thx in advance and thx for read this thread.

With deca its a terrible idea - 5-alpha reductase inhibitors (like finasteride/proscar) block the conversion of nandrolone itself into dihydronandrolone (DHN) which is much less potent than DHT and MUCH MUCH safer for the hairline. As a result, it exerts its full androgenic properties on your scalp and hairline without any conversion. What you're usually not told is that unconverted Deca is VERY active on your scalp - if it can't convert, it will cause your hair to fall out like any DHT derivative, and maybe faster. Unwise.

Trenbolone, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase, is never really adversely metabolized. That said, in its natural state it is devastatingly androgenic and could in that sense cause hair loss. 5AR inhibitors would do nothing to stop trenbolone hair loss.

Fattyliver
04-09-2008, 12:46 PM
With deca its a terrible idea - 5-alpha reductase inhibitors (like finasteride/proscar) block the conversion of nandrolone itself into dihydronandrolone (DHN) which is much less potent than DHT and MUCH MUCH safer for the hairline. As a result, it exerts its full androgenic properties on your scalp and hairline without any conversion. What you're usually not told is that unconverted Deca is VERY active on your scalp - if it can't convert, it will cause your hair to fall out like any DHT derivative, and maybe faster. Unwise.

Trenbolone, not being affected by aromatase or 5alpha-reductase, is never really adversely metabolized. That said, in its natural state it is devastatingly androgenic and could in that sense cause hair loss. 5AR inhibitors would do nothing to stop trenbolone hair loss.

WOW! awesome reply!

Thx to share a little bit of your wisdom! metalcavy87

IronBod
04-09-2008, 02:31 PM
One thing he forgot to add. Finesteride (propecia,proscar) when used
in conjunction with Tren or Deca, will increase your chances of getting
prolactin type gyno. (fact) From experience.

Fattyliver
04-09-2008, 02:55 PM
One thing he forgot to add. Finesteride (propecia,proscar) when used
in conjunction with Tren or Deca, will increase your chances of getting
prolactin type gyno. (fact) From experience.

Good point and Nice to meet you Mr Ironbod, Iīm fatty.

metalcavy87 & IronBod, sorry mastersmind, but Already I can not understand all this info, bbers Can you tell me in others words? (easy)


Again thx in advance.

rossalini
04-09-2008, 03:21 PM
Good point and Nice to meet you Mr Ironbod, I´m fatty.

metalcavy87 & IronBod, sorry mastersmind, but Already I can not understand all this info, bbers Can you tell me in others words? (easy)


Again thx in advance.

what metalcalvy told you was perfect info....if you didn catch the drift it is this:

fin + deca = hair loss at a faster rate then deca alone.....deca alone is actually one of the mildest on hair but if you have mpb your fucked anyway

fin + tren = worthless....if you have mpb tren will most likely rip your hair out and there is nothing you can do about it



if you have MPB, you CANNOT WIN WITH AAS...make a choice between physique and hair and live with it.

be informed and ask questions like you are, the phenomenon between fin and deca is unique.the only one that does this.

some you can fight with fin ( DHT-block )

some you can fight with Nizoral, spiro ( anti-androgens )

figure out what is what...and fight it the best you can. if your not going bald your probably cool...but if you genetically pre-disposed like me...kiss that shit goodbye.

IronBod
04-09-2008, 05:05 PM
Good point and Nice to meet you Mr Ironbod, Iīm fatty.

metalcavy87 & IronBod, sorry mastersmind, but Already I can not understand all this info, bbers Can you tell me in others words? (easy)


Again thx in advance.

Welcome aboard fatty.

High9
04-10-2008, 03:33 AM
How much will Nizoral 2% Shampoo, Spironolactone 5% help with hairloss from tren? i just picked some up because i just started tren, and my hair has been falling out from test alone.(damn my genes) will they atleast help without making it worse?

Nope they won't. There is no medicine that will stop tren binding strongly to the androgen receptors in the scalp.

In terms of hair loss:
Finasteride will only work for Testosterone.
Nizoral and Spironolactone will only work for Testosterone and Androgens weaker than Testosterone.

rossalini
04-10-2008, 09:46 AM
I was afraid you were going to say that. Can i run Minoxidil, and those other compounds to help regrow the hair after the cycle. i know i wont win with AAS. just want to prevent it for a few years.

yes. if hair is a huge priority, i would suggest finasteride and Nizoral year round. just avoid deca if u use fin year round.
i never could get used to minoxidil. sloppy ass messy shit but i heard they have some new methods, foam or something that isnt as bad. u will lose more on cycle but it will should back off cycle, especially if u use these products. at least that has been my experience. good luck bro.

Fattyliver
04-17-2008, 10:56 AM
Bros donīt angry with Fatty, but really I donīt understand good these answers!

The reason is that Sometimes your english is very difficult .

Can you tell me in any form more easy?

Thx bro for read all my threads and Question!

-Fatty

IronBod
04-17-2008, 02:06 PM
Bros donīt angry with Fatty, but really I donīt understand good these answers!

The reason is that Sometimes your english is very difficult .

Can you tell me in any form more easy?

Thx bro for read all my threads and Question!

-Fatty

Dont use finesteride, with (Tren) or (Deca), your wasting your money and
increasing your chances of a prolactin type gyno.