Does dnp work?

[jspencer10128]

I have just ordered some DNP from A. I have read numerous articles explaining how deadly it can be if taken incorrectly. But noone says if it works, I have about 15 lbs of fat to lose so I can get shredded. Has anyone taken it, an if so how did it work??? Any info would help :D

[unitas27]

No offense, but if you don't know if DNP works, you probably shouldn't be taking it in the first place. But, yes, it does work. Do some more research before taking anything of this magnitude. I'm sure others will agree.

[jspencer10128]

Thanks for your opinion, and I have done quite a bit of research. The only thing like I said is noone posts results. They just focus on the negative side effects if overdosed. The question I had, is if the reccommended doseage is 200mg per day, If 1 pill is taken a day since the halflife is 48 hrs, what kind of weight loss can I expect? But thanks for being concerned...

[Alin]

Thanks for your opinion, and I have done quite a bit of research. The only thing like I said is noone posts results. They just focus on the negative side effects if overdosed. The question I had, is if the reccommended doseage is 200mg per day, If 1 pill is taken a day since the halflife is 48 hrs, what kind of weight loss can I expect? But thanks for being concerned...


With diet, training, cardio, and proper use, 15lbs should come off easily.

[jspencer10128]

Thank you Alin. That is what I was asking. Glad your watching over!

[jspencer10128]

And you think clen is as effective as dnp, maybe just takes longer?

[unitas27]

Clen is not nearly as effective as DNP IMO. I lost about 3 pounds on Clen/T3 over a month. With DNP, I lost 7 lbs of bodyfat is 15 days while gaining 3 lbs of lean mass (I was on trenabol/test and HGH at the same time). I started at 200mg, but I found 400mg/day to work best for me. Damn the body gets hot on DNP though, drink a lot of water and some gatorade with pyruvate, it helps with the lethargy.

[johnc67]

I've done two cycles of DNP. For the first cycle I was not impressed with the results but it was because the pills I had were not filled to the 200mg capacity that they were supposed to be. The second batch of pills were definitely better(all ordered from Alin) but I still ended up taking about 500mg a day to get good results. I ended up loosing about 5 pounds of fat in 7 days. That was a fairly miserable 7 days though. The sweats kicked my butt. If you want to make life more bearable I would recommend a lower dose for a longer period of time. If if is your first cycle you should absolutely start with a max of 200mg for the first 3 or 4 days to test your tolerance. Here is some great info about DNP from George Spellwin. I didn't follow his program exactly but it is good info. Good luck and be careful.

George Spellwin's 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle

Boasting an astounding 50% increase in metabolic rate, DNP is the most effective fat burner that bodybuilders are using today. For comparison purposes, the ECA stack, which is also a highly effective fat loss tool, produces only a 3% increase in metabolic rate. Athletes reporting fat losses of 10-12 pounds in only 8 days of use have further added to the DNP mystique. However, DNP is also the deadliest substance used in bodybuilding today - so deadly, that it has been implicated in the death of several athletes.

In this issue of Elite Fitness News, I'll tell you more about DNP. You'll learn about the 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle, the precautions you should take if you decide to try it, and I'll give you the reasons why you should avoid DNP in favor of other diet drugs and supplements that are not nearly so dangerous. I'll also let you know about the safest legal fat burner around today and how it can help you maximize your bodybuilding goals.

DNP or 2,4-Dinitrophenol, (Pronounced: die ni'tro fe' nolz) is an industrial chemical with various applications such as making dyes, wood preservatives, explosives, insect control substances, other chemicals, and as a photographic developer. Sold under several trade names, including Caswell No. 392, Sulfo Black B, and Nitro Kleenup, DNP has recently gained steady popularity as a fat loss tool.

DNP was used in diet pills in the 1930s, but was banned for this use in 1938. Classified as an "uncoupler of oxidative phosphorylation," medically, DNP is quite dangerous. You see, the body has no negative feedback system that may deal with overdoses. Specifically, there is no upper limit to the increase in body temperature that may be obtained with DNP's use.

The following article combines several theories to form what is perhaps the single best way to cycle DNP for maximum fat-loss benefits. As I mentioned earlier, DNP can be deadly and I would never use it myself nor would I ever recommend that anyone ingest it. The casual use of DNP for dieting is ridiculous. Hearing reports of athletes using DNP before trying a Cyclical Ketogenic Diet, legal diet supplements, and medically supervised weight loss drugs is crazy. Here are a few links to effective weight loss supplements, drugs, and strategies that are much safer than DNP and are certainly a much better alternative for all but the most elite bodybuilders. That said, if an athlete makes the personal decision to use DNP, it is possible to take precautions to maximize its benefits and minimize the potential risks.

The 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle:

The 7-day DNP Fat Loss Inferno Cycle involves a moderate to high dosage of DNP for fat burning. The DNP Fat Loss Inferno involves a 7-day on, 7-day off approach to using DNP and has four distinct phases. Most athletes using DNP follow this type of cycle. The phases are as follows:

Phase 1: The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase.

Phase 2: The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase.

Phase 3: The 14-day DNP Inferno Phase.

Phase 4: The 2-day Post-DNP Phase.
Phase 1. The 3-day Carb-Depletion Phase

Phase One has a three-day duration and begins four days preceding the ingestion of DNP. The purpose of this phase is to deplete muscle-glycogen content by restricting carbohydrates. This is achieved through a ketogenic style diet.

Kcals should be restricted to 10-12 times bodyweight in lbs. And carbohydrates should be restricted to less than 60g/day. Protein is consumed at 1 gram per pound of bodyweight or higher and the remaining dietary calories should come from fat.


This phase lasts exactly 3 days, and will reduce muscle-glycogen levels so that the body is forced to rely on fat as fuel more readily when you start your DNP cycle.


Phase 2 The 1-day Thyroxine (T3) Re-normalization Phase

This is a new concept for DNP dieting. During the past three days, the athlete has restricted carbohydrates and as a direct consequence T4-T3 conversion is slowed down resulting in reduced T3 levels. This is bad for the DNP phase, as you need enough active T3 to last throughout the entire 7-day-On DNP phase.
Day four of the DNP cycle involves a mega-carbohydrate meal at mid-afternoon (4-6PM) designed to create a massive insulin spike and re-normalize T4-T3. This concept has been extrapolated from ketogenic diets and has been shown to dramatically increase serum concentrations of T3.

Day 4 involves Keto eating until the Mega-carb meal. Then in the late afternoon, at least circa 250g of carbohydrates must be consumed to create an insulin spike. Any sugar (fructose, sucrose, maltose etc.) is fair game. Fructose in particular is good because it primarily re-fills liver glycogen which is directly involved in T4-T3 conversion. (Empty liver glycogen signals the thyroid to decrease T4-T3 conversion).

As a side-note, a 250g carb-meal after three days of Keto dieting creates a more pronounced insulin spike than would a 250g carb-meal after three days of normal eating.

Kcals during Phase 2 should be kept at 15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs can be calculated by the athlete. The only carb intake on day 4 should be the 250g carb-meal.

Phase 3 The 14-day DNP Phase

The first two days of actual DNP consumption are the most important to follow correctly. During Days 5 and 6 of the actual DNP portion of the cycle, it must be determined if the athlete will have an allergic reaction to DNP -- some will.

Day 5: 200 mg of DNP is ingested

Day 6: 200 mg of DNP is ingested

At this point the dieter should be able to assess if an allergic reaction has occurred. A DNP-stimulated allergic reaction will lead to swelling in as little as 1 to 2 days time. Approximately 10% of athletes will have such a reaction. The unfortunate few who experience this type of a reaction must terminate the cycle immediately. Benadryl or Ketotifen (Anti-histamines) can be used to treat mild symptoms. Obviously a doctor should be consulted should the symptoms prove more severe.

Day 3: Dieters making it to day 7 of the cycle have the option of increasing their dosage. The normal dosage for beginners is 400mg DNP/day. Even an amount this small should provide outstanding results. A word of caution. DO NOT TAKE MORE, if you are not experienced with DNP-use. More advanced users may chose to go higher based on past experience.

The 400mg/day dosage is maintained from Day 8 through Day 14 (Exactly 7 days). The last dose is taken on Day 14.


Supplementation and Nutritional Protocol for a DNP cycle:


1. An ECA stack is beneficial while on a DNP cycle as it as it acts as an anorectant. DNP raises Neuro-peptide Y levels in the brain, which is directly linked to increased hunger. Consuming 75-100mg total of ephedrine alkaloids/day should be sufficient to suppress appetite. PPA (Nor-ephedrine) should NOT be used as it enhances lethargy when combined with DNP.


2. Anti-oxidants. Due to the DNP-induced rapid combustion of fats, free-radical production skyrockets up-wards. To combat this, anti-oxidants must be used. Anti-oxidants are the single most important supplement to take on a DNP cycle.


a) Fat-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin E: 1000mgs/day

b) Water-soluble Anti-O: Vitamin C: 2-3g/day

c) Alpha Lipoic acid: 600-1000mgs/day

Dual-anti-oxidant: BOTH fat & water-soluble actually re-cycles other anti-oxidants.


3. Glycerol: Although optional, glycerol is often consumed at 15ml's 3X/day. Glycerol increases hydration for many athletes.
No additional supplements are really required other than these three. All the rest you have read in various DNP articles are more for peace of mind than improved functionality. I consider them overkill -- although they can enhance results.


4. Water: Not a supplement, but an absolute necessity.
DNP causes sweating and can be incredibly dehydrating. Dehydration is the NUMBER ONE cause of most DNP problems and deaths. Excessive dehydration results in over-heating. Dieters who do not replenish fluids properly while on a DNP cycle can and do die. The consensus among athletes is that at least two gallons of water must be consumed daily.


5. EAT FRUIT while on your DNP cycle.
Fruit for some reason has been found to greatly reduce the lethargy associated with a DNP cycle. It also has a high water content, therefore it helps to keep the dieter hydrated. Watermelon is an obvious recommendation.


6. Dietary intake: There are several schools of thought on this matter, but sticking to the old standard always works.

Kcals should be kept anywhere from 10-15X Bodyweight in lbs. Macro-nutrient break-downs should be kept at around 20% fat, 30% protein and 50% carbs. (Changing the ratios in favor of more carbs and protein w/ less fat will result in a more fat loss but nothing special. Also, remember that more carbohydrates means more heat).

Take for example the 220 lb (100 kg) bodybuilder. He would consume anywhere from 2200 to 3300 Kcal per day (Depending on his appetite control).

[tsk4life]

Clen is not nearly as effective as DNP IMO. I lost about 3 pounds on Clen/T3 over a month. With DNP, I lost 7 lbs of bodyfat is 15 days while gaining 3 lbs of lean mass (I was on trenabol/test and HGH at the same time). I started at 200mg, but I found 400mg/day to work best for me. Damn the body gets hot on DNP though, drink a lot of water and some gatorade with pyruvate, it helps with the lethargy.

Sounds like your diet was off

[johnc67]

My diet wasn't that great the first time but for the second cycle I ate very clean and cut out any alcohol. I was pretty happy with the results.

[unitas27]

Sounds like your diet was off

True, my diet wasn't great, but like John's first DNP, mine was severely underdosed as I just discovered (I just popped a cap and it weighed 90.1 mg, which means I was taking only approx 180 mg/day (ugh).

[jspencer10128]

lot of precautions to take. thanks for all the info.
is it safe to do cardio when on dnp? or risk of overheating?

[unitas27]

Of course you can do cardio, just have water within reach, and dont go crazy with the cardio.