Primo and Anavar with out test?

[veritas]

Cycling Sustamed 250, Decamed 250 and Anavar

250mg/weekly/Sust 15 weeks
400mg/weekly/Deca 12 weeks
50mg/daily/Anavar Starting last 4 weeks

After this cycle I want to harden up as much as possible. I Plan on starting a 10 week cycle of Primo And Anavar immediatly afterwards.

400mg/weekly/Primo 10 weeks
30mg/daily/Anavar 10 weeks

My question is... Can I run the Primo and Anavar with out test?

[anhuka]

i have get the same question...

[Mr. Intensity]

Cycling Sustamed 250, Decamed 250 and Anavar

250mg/weekly/Sust 15 weeks
400mg/weekly/Deca 12 weeks
50mg/daily/Anavar Starting last 4 weeks

After this cycle I want to harden up as much as possible. I Plan on starting a 10 week cycle of Primo And Anavar immediatly afterwards.

400mg/weekly/Primo 10 weeks
30mg/daily/Anavar 10 weeks

My question is... Can I run the Primo and Anavar with out test?

Stats? Experience?

My question is, why do you want to use Primo and Var with no test. I understand that you are asking if you can, but I am asking why not with test.

[lola26]

even though primo and var are mild, together they will shut you down. running them right after the cycle your on like you stated above will keep you shut down.

post your full stats, goals, and exp.

[DuneChigga]

That's a little overkill bro, IMO. Maybe try to incorporate Primo the last 6-8 weeks and save the extra var for another cycle?

You should be doing pct around the time of that proposed primo+var cycle. What made you suggest that?

[DuneChigga]

i have get the same question...

Please kill that bug...:D:D:D

[anhuka]

Please kill that bug...:D:D:D

hahahahaha i cant

[rossalini]

Cycling Sustamed 250, Decamed 250 and Anavar

250mg/weekly/Sust 15 weeks
400mg/weekly/Deca 12 weeks
50mg/daily/Anavar Starting last 4 weeks

After this cycle I want to harden up as much as possible. I Plan on starting a 10 week cycle of Primo And Anavar immediatly afterwards.

400mg/weekly/Primo 10 weeks
30mg/daily/Anavar 10 weeks

My question is... Can I run the Primo and Anavar with out test?

here's my experience:

my very first aas cycle was primo and anavar.

i chose this because i was totally consumed with hair loss.

i was trying to run the best compunds that were least mild on the hair.

my results were fantastic (physically)

my hair still fell out horribly.

i believe i kept more form this cycle than any other and i felt great.

i could masturbate at the drop of victoria's secret magazine easily.

since then ive ditched the idea of saving hair and just shaved the head.

i would love, love , love to run these compounds with some test.

unfortuinately it was ridiculously expensive and i havent been able to afford it since.

i ran for 16 wks...primo 600mg and var 35mg per wk.

[zznwhs]

here's my experience:

my very first aas cycle was primo and anavar.

i chose this because i was totally consumed with hair loss.

i was trying to run the best compunds that were least mild on the hair.

my results were fantastic (physically)

my hair still fell out horribly.

i believe i kept more form this cycle than any other and i felt great.

i could masturbate at the drop of victoria's secret magazine easily.

since then ive ditched the idea of saving hair and just shaved the head.

i would love, love , love to run these compounds with some test.

unfortuinately it was ridiculously expensive and i havent been able to afford it since.

i ran for 16 wks...primo 600mg and var 35mg per wk.

You were worried about hair loss and you decided to run primo and anavar? They are both DHT derivatives. What were ya thinkin'? :confused:

[rossalini]

You were worried about hair loss and you decided to run primo and anavar? They are both DHT derivatives. What were ya thinkin'? :confused:

http://www.hairloss-research.org/steroids.html

[zznwhs]

I know from personal experience that var isnt too bad on the hairline. I've never used primo. Sounds like you have done your research, but I was basing my comment on this from steroid.com:


In addition, as this steroid can actually aid in reducing breast tumors, no ancillary products need be considered for use with Primobolan, and in fact, it may actually be a useful ancillary agent in it´s own right, similar to Masteron. Also, just like Masteron, Primobolan has no propensity to aromatize (convert to estrogen). Since it doesn´t aromatize, alot of the side effects commonly associated with estrogen will not be of concern. This means water retention, acne, and gyno will be non-existent more or less. this lack of water retention combined with the slow and steady gains provided by Primo may help to explain why it has earned a reputation for creating quality muscle gains. This also helps to explain why it is so expensive. Although estrogenic sides are not a concern, hair loss still, remains a very real concern with Primobolan, as with many DHT-Derived steroids.

But hey, if you look good with a shaved head now, why worry....

[rossalini]

I know from personal experience that var isnt too bad on the hairline. I've never used primo. Sounds like you have done your research, but I was basing my comment on this from steroid.com:


In addition, as this steroid can actually aid in reducing breast tumors, no ancillary products need be considered for use with Primobolan, and in fact, it may actually be a useful ancillary agent in it´s own right, similar to Masteron. Also, just like Masteron, Primobolan has no propensity to aromatize (convert to estrogen). Since it doesn´t aromatize, alot of the side effects commonly associated with estrogen will not be of concern. This means water retention, acne, and gyno will be non-existent more or less. this lack of water retention combined with the slow and steady gains provided by Primo may help to explain why it has earned a reputation for creating quality muscle gains. This also helps to explain why it is so expensive. Although estrogenic sides are not a concern, hair loss still, remains a very real concern with Primobolan, as with many DHT-Derived steroids.

But hey, if you look good with a shaved head now, why worry....

right...i actually deleted my last post and posted up a link that supports everything i said before.

[zznwhs]

right...i actually deleted my last post and posted up a link that supports everything i said before.

I read what they said about primo...they say it's ok because it has low androgens, but they dont even address the fact that its a DHT derivative. I think what they have to say about primo is very misleading...and the proof is that you lost hair while using it.

[rossalini]

I read what they said about primo...they say it's ok because it has low androgens, but they dont even address the fact that its a DHT derivative. I think what they have to say about primo is very misleading...and the proof is that you lost hair while using it.

ya i agree...experience is my best teacher. if you have mpb u can do nothing against dht derivatives...your actually better off with test and such because you can help prevent the dht conversion with finasteride...if its already dht their is nothing u can do. EQ even fucks me up...d-bol was not as bad as i thought. its all pretty much the same to me. fuck it u have to make a decision with mpb....hair or physique? ill take the latter any fuckin day.

[zznwhs]

ya i agree...experience is my best teacher. if you have mpb u can do nothing against dht derivatives...your actually better off with test and such because you can help prevent the dht conversion with finasteride...if its already dht their is nothing u can do. EQ even fucks me up...d-bol was not as bad as i thought. its all pretty much the same to me. fuck it u have to make a decision with mpb....hair or physique? ill take the latter any fuckin day.

Yea...what the hell...shaving bald is in style these days. Better off having a good body.

[rossalini]

Yea...what the hell...shaving bald is in style these days. Better off having a good body.

ya thats the good thing about it...i just look like i choose to do it like any other knucklehead...it can just be nerve-wracking making the transition into baldness, but once u do it u realize its not as important as you thought, at least for me thats how it was...and i thought it was REAL important....it would be nice to have the choice...but hey ill take it man..i was losin the battle anyway...good hair doesnt even compare to good gear:D

[lola26]

you pretty boys and your hair...lol.

[veritas]

Stats
age:29
Height: 6'2
Weight: 220
Training:5yrs

This is my third cycle. No particular reason I didn't want to run test that long, but thought is was a long time to be on it. Would I be better off with EQ?

[rossalini]

Stats
age:29
Height: 6'2
Weight: 220
Training:5yrs

This is my third cycle. No particular reason I didn't want to run test that long, but thought is was a long time to be on it. Would I be better off with EQ?

no. you would be much, much better with test...your results will be amplified. you should always run test, but like i said this went well for me without. if i had the money again i would not even question putting test in.

[tdizzle28]

I read what they said about primo...they say it's ok because it has low androgens, but they dont even address the fact that its a DHT derivative. I think what they have to say about primo is very misleading...and the proof is that you lost hair while using it.

I read about it being a DHT deriative alot, but where I get confused is when I read the profile, this is the first paragraph...

Primobolan is a well-known and popular steroid as well. Like nandrolone it's most often used as a base compound for stacking with other steroids. Methenolone however, is a DHT-based steroid (actually, DHB or dihydroboldenone, the 5-alpha reduced of the milder boldenon). Meaning when it interacts with the aromatase enzyme it does not form estrogens at all. That makes it ideal for use when cutting when excess estrogen is best avoided because of its retentive effects on water and fat. Methenolone is mostly only used in such instances, or by people who are very succeptible to estrogenic side-effects, because the anabolic activity of methenolone is slightly lower than that of nandrolone, quite likely BECAUSE it is non-estrogenic.

Full link is at: http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/catprimo.htm

[Alin]

Cycling Sustamed 250, Decamed 250 and Anavar

250mg/weekly/Sust 15 weeks
400mg/weekly/Deca 12 weeks
50mg/daily/Anavar Starting last 4 weeks

After this cycle I want to harden up as much as possible. I Plan on starting a 10 week cycle of Primo And Anavar immediatly afterwards.

400mg/weekly/Primo 10 weeks
30mg/daily/Anavar 10 weeks

My question is... Can I run the Primo and Anavar with out test?

Yes you can. I always like to use some test as my base even if its just 250mg/wk. you look,,feel and perform much better with it IMO.

[testmaster]

i will be running the same compounds starting in may:

test e 250mg, primo 800mg, var 60mg ed 12 weeks

i'll post the rsults when i finish.