Any point to take all this??

[jspencer10128]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my other questions, but to ensure i dont get fat and retain water while taking tren 200 and test 250, any point in taking lasix, proviron AND arimidex?
Just lost all the shit i gained from the last cycle of test/deca.
Dont want it back, Any input?

[OuchThatHurts]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my other questions, but to ensure i dont get fat and retain water while taking tren 200 and test 250, any point in taking lasix, proviron AND arimidex?
Just lost all the shit i gained from the last cycle of test/deca.
Dont want it back, Any input?
depends on your dosages. tren will NOT convert to estrogen. I don't know how much test you're using. Who suggested lasix and why? Proviron is good in my opinion but why use it on this cycle? The a-dex should be totally uneccesary since you WANT some estrogen circulating about when you're on tren. It might even help your anabolic response. I'd use bromo instead if anything for increased prolactin but this depends on how much tren you intend to use.

[kmoe7]

no lasix or deurotics needed u wont be carrying that much water plus ur only running 250mgs... bump that up a little 2mg per body weight plus test u can run higher

[Alin]

Thanks to everyone who responded to my other questions, but to ensure i dont get fat and retain water while taking tren 200 and test 250, any point in taking lasix, proviron AND arimidex?
Just lost all the shit i gained from the last cycle of test/deca.
Dont want it back, Any input?


The Arimidex alone should be enough.

[jspencer10128]

Was told by some other members to use lasix, one said proviron. Alin says arimidex should be enough. The test is 333mg (so it says) and tren 200mg. one shot a week. Just dont want to get the bloat.
But thanks for the advice

[jspencer10128]

by the way, whats bromo and what doseage?
side effects? fat loss?

[sikdogg]

Was told by some other members to use lasix, one said proviron. Alin says arimidex should be enough. The test is 333mg (so it says) and tren 200mg. one shot a week. Just dont want to get the bloat.
But thanks for the advice
I agree with Alin but with the very low doses you plan on running... a seriously doubt you'll need anything.

[aintnothingtoitbuttodoitC]

Have to agree with Alin. Arimidex should be good by itself, this been good to me.

[OuchThatHurts]

by the way, whats bromo and what doseage?
side effects? fat loss?
Bromocriptine reduces the body's amount of prolactin, a hormone produced by the pituitary gland.

1-2mg per day before bed.

It's also used to stop lactation in women. If your prolactin levels get high enough, say when you're on a high-dose tren/deca cycle, it's not unheard of for you to start producing milk! or at least a milk-like substance. The very thought is enough for me! lol

[jspencer10128]

SWEET! thanks for the info man, Hopefully I wont be producing milk!?
You ever done a tren/test cycle?

[OuchThatHurts]

SWEET! thanks for the info man, Hopefully I wont be producing milk!?
You ever done a tren/test cycle?
My lifting partner is doing a tren A, test E cycle right now. I went with deca this time. I think I have some growing to do before I pull tren outta the bag. I soon go up to 900mg deca(300/ml), 600 test(200/ml) which I'm on until june. I did get some tren for the summer but I haven't been able to get winny tabs lately. Everyone seems to be short. Anyhow, the tren/test is working better for my lifting partner than my deca/test cycle and my dosages are much higher than his. I will try the tren/winny cycle this summer when I'm all watered up and fat as hell. If I can get my abs in at 210, then that means I gained 10 lean lbs since last summer. At 34, 10lbs in a year is huge. I'm at least 230 now but I won't even go near a scale. My abs are gone. (my avatar is 200lbs)

as far as the milk thing goes, I think you'll be fine... but the bromo will also help you rev your hog more often too.

[OuchThatHurts]

note to self:

Never wait until right before summer to buy winstrol!

[jspencer10128]

i think tren is a miracle drug, last time i cycled it with eq my strength went through the roof. I love this stuff, as far as winny though never done it. This time I may incorporate some dnp in at the end to melt some fat. And hopefully not my brain. Im 26 and 255 with 13% body fat. Just can't seem to get the last bit off. 4 days of 45 min cardio is getting old.

[OuchThatHurts]

i think tren is a miracle drug, last time i cycled it with eq my strength went through the roof. I love this stuff, as far as winny though never done it. This time I may incorporate some dnp in at the end to melt some fat. And hopefully not my brain. Im 26 and 255 with 13% body fat. Just can't seem to get the last bit off. 4 days of 45 min cardio is getting old.
255 at 13% means you're around 220 ripped. That's pretty damn good. When people ask me about my bodyfat I usually just say "a lot". I'm probably tipping 240 or close right now and I guarantee I could drop 30 and still have a some on me at 210. DNP is too toxic. The benefits don't outweigh the risks. Use extreme caution.

[jspencer10128]

Thanks bro, what about clen?
Just looking to lose like you said about 30 lbs to be shredded. need some help with the cardio. any tips?

[OuchThatHurts]

Thanks bro, what about clen?
Just looking to lose like you said about 30 lbs to be shredded. need some help with the cardio. any tips?
Carb cycling. Have you ever tried it? Going low, medium, high and then repeat. Some people love clen. My honest opinion? I'd be careful with beta-agonists in general if possible (clen, albuterol, ephedrine). If you could use them moderately then it might be something to consider but most people never do. If you think about it, you burn a lot of calories lifting, healing, and cardio so why use a hyperthermic? I use a half a tab (12mg) of ephedrine 30 minutes before my workout just to increase my oxygen uptake and get a few more sets but at that small a dose, it doesn't mean much.

I guess you'd really have to ask someone who uses them a lot. I'd be interested to see how much a mild thermogenic increase would have on total calories burned. Is it 10? 20? 30 percent? Even at 30 percent you'd only be burning an additional pound or two at most per week while downgrading your beta receptors which means you'd probably have to continually increase dosage. blah... sounds like more trouble than it's worth...

[jspencer10128]

yeah it does, i have been using some hydroxycut, but thats a waste of money.
only thing i got some results from was p6 from cellucor. seemed to work well. just not sure if i should take that with 333mg of test? but it is a lot of trouble, i guess chicks dig fat guys, so i should be fine... dnp just kinda freaked me out with all the side effects. but i hate being big with no definition. diet is clean and cardio is there, just need a little boost.

[JMP8888]

As far as controlling water retention during a cycle...i wouldn't use diuretics, especially Lasix (non potassium sparing and too strong). Remember bro, muscle is made up of mostly water...and so is blood. I'd watch my diet first.

[anaholic]

the point would be to combat side effects, other than that there is no point in taking it