Tren A and Dbol cycle questions!

[Schoonz21]

Hi all,

170 pounds, 5'10 rock hard and solid been lifting about 4 years and train mma on a reg basis.

my plan is to jumpstart my cycle of:

75mg TREN Acetate EOD
50mg dbol ED

after 5 weeks of that, i want to:

add 250-300mg per week of TEST E
drop the dbol
Tren Acetate EOD
and start Winstrol 10mg tabs at 50 mg a day

then PCT with
clomid
nolvdex
arimidex during dbol 5 weeks


any opinions or comments. and advice or suggestions. appreciated

[lola26]

your cycle makes no sense and is retarded!

stats?
goals?
exp?

[SwoleTexasKid]

Test E takes five weeks to even kick in. You cant just throw it in and expect it to release right when the dbol and ace end.

Do Tren Ace OR Winstrol. Tren A is a beefed up Winstrol IMO, I have used both.

With the dbol already killing your liver for weeks, you DO NOT need a second oral.

Why not something like this...

Test E 500mg wk1-12
Tren A 75mg EOD wk8-12
Dbol 50mg ED wk 1-4

Let me ask you, how many times have you cycled, if any? If this is your first cycle, scratch the above.

Run Test E wk1-10
Nolva/Clomid PCT

This is a first cycle.

your cycle makes no sense and is retarded!

stats?
goals?
exp?

:D:D:D

[Schoonz21]

your cycle makes no sense and is retarded!

stats?
goals?
exp?


haha thanks, sry we dont all base our life off of steroid knowledge and ask for help when we need it there buddy

my goal is to bulk up to 185-195 then harden up

i have cycled test e 2 times before and went from 150 to 175 which i am solid now.

[lola26]

go fuck yourself! you dont know me so dont make stupid fucking assumptions about me. i attempted to help when i asked that you post your stats, goals and exp... then you mouth off like a little bitch. fuck you and get help elsewhere.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Dont take it to heart. It was a bad idea .

Its not smart to kill your nuts with Tren Ace, which is harsh on them, without test. Test E takes about 5-6 weeks to release from its ester.

Test E 500mg wk1-12
Tren A 75mg EOD wk8-12
Dbol 50mg ED wk 1-4

Nolva/Clomid PCT

Thats a safe way to run it, but beware, this is a whole 'nother ball game that Test Alone. Its going to be much more intense and full of sides. Letrozole would be ideal to run at .25mg ed to advoid estrogen buildup and sides.

[jjgonz]

bump swole...and whats your problem bro...you asked for opinions advice and suggestions...your cycle proposal is retarded and pointless...based on your schedule for compounds....when we know your full stats we can help you set up a better cycle...dont be a dick after asking for help

[SteroidalTendency]

First off, if your training mma dont use tren

2nd, nobody is basing their life off staeroid knowledge. We do base what we put in our bodies of that knowledge though, and you should probly do the same

[ronnie]

Dont take it to heart. It was a bad idea .

Its not smart to kill your nuts with Tren Ace, which is harsh on them, without test. Test E takes about 5-6 weeks to release from its ester.

Test E 500mg wk1-12
Tren A 75mg EOD wk8-12
Dbol 50mg ED wk 1-4

Nolva/Clomid PCT

Thats a safe way to run it, but beware, this is a whole 'nother ball game that Test Alone. Its going to be much more intense and full of sides. Letrozole would be ideal to run at .25mg ed to advoid estrogen buildup and sides.

This looks like a good cycle.

[zznwhs]

First off, if your training mma dont use tren

2nd, nobody is basing their life off staeroid knowledge. We do base what we put in our bodies of that knowledge though, and you should probly do the same

Bump this. If you are planning on training for mma while on tren..it will make you winded alot quicker. The progestins from tren cause the bronchial tubes in the lungs to constrict, which makes breathing harder.

[Audel]

haha thanks, sry we dont all base our life off of steroid knowledge and ask for help when we need it there buddy



not to sound like an ass, but it looks like you need to spend a little more time researching before you cycle.

You need to also post your full stats (age, height, weight, bf, lifting experience, past cycles if any, etc.) and not just your weight. it really doesn't tell us anything.

The cycle Swole listed is a billion times better than the disaster you listed.

[Schoonz21]

Aight guys, thanks for the help.

Sorry for offending. I was kidding and dont take forum posts to heart.

Im no worried about getting winded from Tren

Ill try the cycle and ill post back with before and after stats

[zznwhs]

Aight guys, thanks for the help.

Sorry for offending. I was kidding and dont take forum posts to heart.

Im no worried about getting winded from Tren

Ill try the cycle and ill post back with before and after stats

LOL. I guess he didn't see the part about being too young.:o Oh well, have fun when your nuts shrivel up into raisins and you dont know what to do about it.

[Schoonz21]

Thanks swole, after filtering through all the ego pride and stupid comments, Its nice to see an actual result and suggestion, and solution to problem, thanks

[zznwhs]

Thanks swole, after filtering through all the ego pride and stupid comments, Its nice to see an actual result and suggestion, and solution to problem, thanks

Well, if you are going to do a cycle, I hope you are at least taking Swole's advice and only using test. Do you know when to start post cycle therapy? Do you know what and how much to use for post cycle therapy? Do you know what to do if you start getting symptoms of gynecomastia (bitch tits)?

[Schoonz21]

Is it ok to just run Tren and dbol, with arimidex at .25 ED

then start my PCT with 50mg Nolv and Clomid ED

[tdizzle28]

Is it ok to just run Tren and dbol, with arimidex at .25 ED

then start my PCT with 50mg Nolv and Clomid ED

You are retarded, you have been spoonfed the proper way to run the cycle and you come back with this again? :eek: When you're all fucked up in a few weeks from side effects and a limp dick, don't come back and post some dumb ass "Help Me" thread...I don't think too many people are going to come to your rescue after this.

[zznwhs]

Is it ok to just run Tren and dbol, with arimidex at .25 ED

then start my PCT with 50mg Nolv and Clomid ED

OK....and I'm not saying this to make myself sound like the all knowing steroid guru. I'm saying it because I'm trying to look out for your well being. Tren and dbol are not a good idea for you. At 18 years old, the high androgens in both tren and dbol will more than likely give you acne all over your back, shoulders and face. And I mean big nasty acne, the kind that will keep you from getting laid. I am 38 years old and weigh 245 lbs, and I wont run 50mg/day of dbol because it makes ME breakout in zits. Also, if you use tren with no test, your dick is probably going to go limp. Tren is the most suppressive steroid there is as far as shutting your nuts down, and shrinking them too. Tren can also cause progestin/prolactin related gynecomastia, and arimidex wont help with this. Tren can also cause extreme aggression in some people. Again, I'm not looking down my nose at you, but agression is another reason someone that is 18 should not use tren. If you want to decrease the side effects from tren you have to use things like cabergoline or bromocriptine, HCG, and possibly proviron. Its a complicated cycle. I hope if you do decide to do another cycle you will decide not to use tren and dbol. If you want to bump up a step from what you have done in the past just do something like 500mg/week of test along with 400mg/week of deca or EQ, and learn about proper pct and countering any side effects you might get from deca.

[Schoonz21]

im 24 yrs old, and i have ran a couple test e cycles already, its not doin it for me anymore

sin city is a sweet movie

but i do see my mistakes, and im better informed now. ill grab some test and start with that and dbol then it the tren later on

[zznwhs]

im 24 yrs old, and i have ran a couple test e cycles already, its not doin it for me anymore

Oh fuck...sorry about that guy....gimme a second and lemme look over this thread again.

[zznwhs]

OK...if you are going to run tren acetate, you may as well run test prop along with it so you can be on the same pinning shedule which would be every other day. Personaly...I would go with tren enanthate and either test enanthate or cypionate so you only have to pin twice a week. if you want to do this I would start with 500mg/week of test e or c, and 200mg/week of tren e. I know this sounds like a low dose, but tren is some potent stuff. It will also let you figure out how you react to tren. It gives alot of people trouble getting to sleep, and night sweats, so its a good idea to start with a low dose and see how it works for you. You can always bump up the dosage later. I would also recommend you run 500i.u.'s of HCG every 3-5 days to keep your nuts from shrinking. Going with the .25 mg of adex eod or ed would be a good idea too

If for some reason you want to stay with tren a, I would start it at 50mg eod, along with 75mg eod of test prop. Again, you can see how you react to this dosage and bump it up later if you want to. Use the HCG and adex for this too.

If you want to use dbol bring it down to 30mg/day. I really dont think you will need it because tren alone has very high androgens. I dont think you will need winny either since tren is great for both bulking and cutting. Just adjust your diet accordingly.

Run a standard PCT like 100mg clomid with 20mg of nolva for 3 weeks. You can taper the dosage down a bit each week for this if you want to.

Any more questions PM me. Again sorry for some reason I thought you were 18...must have got this confused with another thread

[tdizzle28]

im 24 yrs old, and i have ran a couple test e cycles already, its not doin it for me anymore

sin city is a sweet movie

but i do see my mistakes, and im better informed now. ill grab some test and start with that and dbol then it the tren later on

Much more logical...personally, I would skip the tren and run

Test E/C Weeks 1-14
Eq 1-12
nolva/clomid pct

You would get some good gains off of this and wouldn't have to worry about the prolactin/progesterone gyno from the deca or tren. JMO.

[Schoonz21]

thanks a ton guys, u know ur shit

[tdizzle28]

Not me, I just PM'd ZZ real quick and asked for some pointers so I came across as smart! :D:D:D

[zznwhs]

Not me, I just PM'd ZZ real quick and asked for some pointers so I came across as smart! :D:D:D

LOL....you know as much as I do tdizz...don't short change yourself :)

[IronBod]

No Tren ! You just dont need it ! IMO unless your a powerlifter or a
strong man competitor, you will never need it !

[DuneChigga]

go fuck yourself! you dont know me so dont make stupid fucking assumptions about me. i attempted to help when i asked that you post your stats, goals and exp... then you mouth off like a little bitch. fuck you and get help elsewhere.

Damn Lola, who pissed on your double-stack!!! :D:D:D