2nd cycle

[ryanray712]

Its gonna be my 2nd cycle ever and I was thinkin about gettin the 450.00 bulkin cycle I'm 5'5 and 132lbs and was wanting input on lifting and diet

[lola26]

what?????????

might as well tell you this anyway. your to little for aas.
full stats?
full exp?

[datuca]

you are only 132 after a cycle? ur bf must be -30%!!!

[trickk034]

Its gonna be my 2nd cycle ever and I was thinkin about gettin the 450.00 bulkin cycle I'm 5'5 and 132lbs and was wanting input on lifting and diet

Is this a stupid joke? This shit pisses me off! :mad:

oh... and BUMP datuca's quote above in the blue box.

[ryanray712]

I took that 1 cycle of test over a year ago and when I started I weighed 120lbs and the guy i got it from didn't have any info on how to take it or work out on it I'm not a big guy and I just want to get to 150lb and keep it it wont take much for me to look big because of my height this time i just want to do it right thats why i got on this forum and asked questions.

[newguy666]

I took that 1 cycle of test over a year ago and when I started I weighed 120lbs and the guy i got it from didn't have any info on how to take it or work out on it I'm not a big guy and I just want to get to 150lb and keep it it wont take much for me to look big because of my height this time i just want to do it right thats why i got on this forum and asked questions.

give us stats buddy.... short guys gain muscle easy without aas. how old are you? what do you mean your friend didnt know what he was doing last cycle?

[ryanray712]

I'm 24 it was his first cycle and he bought 2 bottles so we both did it with out any advice or experience I pretty much dont have a whole lot of bf I have a high metabolism and its hard for me to gain wieght no matter what i eat and when i did that cycle after about four weeks of lifting I wasn't getting sore anymore any advice on workouts and diet would be great

[newguy666]

I'm 24 it was his first cycle and he bought 2 bottles so we both did it with out any advice or experience I pretty much dont have a whole lot of bf I have a high metabolism and its hard for me to gain wieght no matter what i eat and when i did that cycle after about four weeks of lifting I wasn't getting sore anymore any advice on workouts and diet would be great

how long was your first cycle? and what did you take?how was your pct? what did you take for pct?

what is your current workout routine? how often do you wokout? how much do you eat, what r you eating... what supps are you taking?

my advice is to take a weight gainer that has 600-900 cals and 50g protien... your body need calories and lots of protien.... once you have that in check and tried your as off to gain as much as you naturally can... then start pinning. everyone on here is gonna tell you that your not ready for aas. you really need to do your homework before starting... the internet is a god send!!!

if you do go with a cycle.... do 12-15wks of test c or e ONLY... take a 2 week break THEN start nolva and clomid, take hch e4d at 500ui to keep your balls.... start taking an AI one week before you start a cycle to prevent gyno issues. eat, train, and rest like never before.... make it PRIORITY NUMBER ONE... every thing else in life is second while on cycle.

i am pretty inexperienced with aas... i have learned a lot in the past 3 months.... shit i am only on my first cycle... but i have been lifting and making gains naturally for many years.... do it right the first time or you will regret it.

[ryanray712]

It was test 250 and i took it for 6wks and I didn't take any pct didn't know about that till recently I work out of town alot so i just bring my bench curl bar and dumbells I try to work out every other day mostly upper body except squats and as far as eating no supps and alot a meats mostly eat off the grill and micro food I work in the oil field.

[flart]

It was test 250 and i took it for 6wks and I didn't take any pct didn't know about that till recently I work out of town alot so i just bring my bench curl bar and dumbells I try to work out every other day mostly upper body except squats and as far as eating no supps and alot a meats mostly eat off the grill and micro food I work in the oil field.

That's not a cycle...it's a disaster...

So you basically shut yourself down....gained nothing....and never fully recovered.

You training split sounds like crap....no legs = no growth...

If you train your chest and arms every other day...you're body is gonna turn on you...and you will lose size not gain.

Try training 2 muscle groups per session per session - 4 sessions - each muscle group get's isolated once a week....and then worked a little on any compound type lifts.

Take some time to read and ask questions before you waste more money and damage your health.

[newguy666]

It was test 250 and i took it for 6wks and I didn't take any pct didn't know about that till recently I work out of town alot so i just bring my bench curl bar and dumbells I try to work out every other day mostly upper body except squats and as far as eating no supps and alot a meats mostly eat off the grill and micro food I work in the oil field.

you have a lot of work to do before you run a REAL cycle. get your diet and program down first... sounds like you havent really tried to push your natural limits yet... you would benefit from doing a whole lot of research first.

when you are on the shit diet rest and training comes first... otherwise you are wasting money and hurting your body.

this is what i am doing for my first cycle:

FOOD
REST
test c
eq
hcg
aromasin
b12



training:
2 on 1 off

chest
back
off
shoulders
legs / arms
(i alternate arms through my workout -shoulders & arms, or legs & arms... or sometimes nothin but arms on that day)

i spend 1-1.5 hrs in the gym... rest is best... you wont grow if you dont rest enough.

[newguy666]

i forgot to mention i took ~40mg of dbol first 4 weeks to kick in the test.

... and get blood work done while on cycle, and 8 weeks after pct.

[ryanray712]

Thanks I appreciate all the help

[ryanray712]

whats the bloodwork for?

[Krom]

^To check liver values. If your not on orals I won't worry about it.

[newguy666]

whats the bloodwork for?

to make sure you're in good health... and you can make adjustment accordingly to the drugs you are putting in your body... use the search botton... and look at all the stickys in the newbee forum.... read them!!!

[lola26]

this has to be a joke..............

[FordTurboDiesel]

this has to be a joke..............

Somehow......




......I don't think so.




......But good luck with everything.:o

[ryanray712]

no its not a joke i just dont know anything about this I guess yall started out knowing everything I thought these forums were for questions and help not ridacule...

thanks for the help newguy666 i'll look at that newbee section if i got anymore questions i'll be sure and ask or research.

[SwoleTexasKid]

no its not a joke i just dont know anything about this I guess yall started out knowing everything I thought these forums were for questions and help not ridacule...

thanks for the help newguy666 i'll look at that newbee section if i got anymore questions i'll be sure and ask or research.

Relax bro we are looking after your best interests here. Hmm...You are short and skinny....Id say get yourself up to 140 atleast before attempting a cycle.

Seriously though Whey Protein and Creatine can help you get ready for a cycle.

[FordTurboDiesel]

no its not a joke i just dont know anything about this I guess yall started out knowing everything I thought these forums were for questions and help not ridacule...

thanks for the help newguy666 i'll look at that newbee section if i got anymore questions i'll be sure and ask or research.

http://alinboard.com/showthread.php?t=15913

[ryanray712]

In my past experience workin out it doesn't take long for me to look like i've been workin out for months but i always get to the same size and stop gaining thats why i was lookin in to aas but will i have to keep taking them to mantain size or can i just keep a strict work out routine once i've reached my desired size

[ryanray712]

i was gonna get my cycle from alin which one would yall suggest.

[FordTurboDiesel]

Personally, I would suggest using the search feature which you just refuse to use.

[hirschdizzle]

RyanRay,
Im usually quick to defend guys writing in asking for some help and getting ridiculed. These guys are probably right on this one though. I not one that says you need to max out your natural limits cause that can take years, however it does not feel like you are remotely close to it. You mentioned that last cycle you worked out for 4 weeks before you started. You're wasting your money.

I recommend that you do a lot of reading on the subject. I would say if you can work out (intensely) for 6 months straight you may be ready for the commitment. AAS is not something that you inject and grow, there is a life style involved in it.

That being said, if youre not going to listen then youre not going to listen so if there is something to run I agree with a previous post. Id run 400-500 Test E or C, take anti-e's, and get PCT correct. If you add anything else maybe winny or deca, but I'd keep it simple since your so green. You can work up from there.

Also FYI there's nothing forum peeps hate more than an open ended, broad question such as "What cycle should I do"? At the very least, read enough to pretend you've tried to learn something.

[flart]

no its not a joke i just dont know anything about this I guess yall started out knowing everything I thought these forums were for questions and help not ridacule...

thanks for the help newguy666 i'll look at that newbee section if i got anymore questions i'll be sure and ask or research.

Everyone here has given you good advise...

You will not do well unless you understand what different compounds do and have your diet and training in order.

I didn't max out naturally when I started...but I read about AAS...and didn't write a post for 2 months....let alone think of buying AAS.

Look at what happened to you the first time around....why repeat the mistake?

[SteroidalTendency]

In my past experience workin out it doesn't take long for me to look like i've been workin out for months but i always get to the same size and stop gaining thats why i was lookin in to aas but will i have to keep taking them to mantain size or can i just keep a strict work out routine once i've reached my desired size

It doesnt take long for you to look like youve been training for a couple months? How long? A couple months maybe?

anyways....


if you do go with a cycle.... do 12-15wks of test c or e ONLY... take a 2 week break THEN start nolva and clomid, take hch e4d at 500ui to keep your balls....

dont take HCG for pct, its for on cycle. I dunno if thats what you meant but its confusing

[newguy666]

It doesnt take long for you to look like youve been training for a couple months? How long? A couple months maybe?

anyways....



dont take HCG for pct, its for on cycle. I dunno if thats what you meant but its confusing

no no... hcg on cycle only, end one week proir to pct... not during pct... sorry.

[newguy666]

Everyone here has given you good advise...

You will not do well unless you understand what different compounds do and have your diet and training in order.

I didn't max out naturally when I started...but I read about AAS...and didn't write a post for 2 months....let alone think of buying AAS.

Look at what happened to you the first time around....why repeat the mistake?

thats some fucking good advice right there!!!!! do it right or not at all.

[FordTurboDiesel]

thats some fucking good advice right there!!!!! do it right or not at all.

Bump Newguy and Flart. I had a long reply and just deleted it.

People just want the needle but not the education.

[LeanMass17]

will i have to keep taking them to mantain size or can i just keep a strict work out routine once i've reached my desired size

:D bro steroids will help you gain weight, but you have to work even harder to keep what you gain....In fact I would say 90% of guys loose at least 10lbs of what they gain...About how many calories do eat a day? If you don't know calories, then how many times do you eat a day?

[jjgonz]

bump every one and dont get mad because were not writing you out a diet and fucking work out routine...you have no business cycling with your workout experience bro...how do i train while on the stuff what kind of question is that...and you havent even attempted to learn a little bit about a very serious topic before coming on here and expecting all the answers...you havent been lifting enough and are going to waste your money on gear bc you dont know how to train or eat...and if you do find a workout routine your going to get hurt bc your strength will increase and muscles may grow but your tendons and connective tissues arent ready for that and are at major risk for injury...i dont know how old you are but i have the feeling your on the young end...at your size you need to put on atleast a little more weight naturally....stop being so impatient..you lifted for a few months then turned towards gear? sounds like a lack of dedication to me...there is no quick easy way to do this bro...go to the gym learn how to lift and eat do it for a very long time and do your research in the meantime then come back to us with some more serious questions and you wont get "ridiculed"

[DEADBOLT]

this has to be a joke..............

I know man, totaly fucked!

[cpesloco]

if you want a diet plan see a nutrionist. you need at least 3500 cals and 1.5 per lb of protein.. ad some mono creatine, guarantee you gain.

go here http://www.6mealsaday.com/sample_diet_plans/3500_calorie_sample_diet_plan_bodybuilding.html

do work and come back in 2 months

[twigman]

ARIMIDEX DOES NOTHING FO ME AND i EVEN HAD IT FROM A COPUNDING PHARMACY SO i KNOW IT WAS LEGIT.SO i WILL TRY SOMETHING NEW NEXT TIME.

[flart]

:D bro steroids will help you gain weight, but you have to work even harder to keep what you gain....In fact I would say 90% of guys loose at least 10lbs of what they gain...About how many calories do eat a day? If you don't know calories, then how many times do you eat a day?

What a waste of money!!

I can't believe I have to train and eat to gain while on cycle :mad: