Anyone seen/done this?

[Benner]

This is supposed to be a 'no steroid' cycle. Seems crazy, and seems that it would shut you down big time!

how to gain WITHOUT STEROIDS ? none AS cycle :

HCG 500 to 1000 iu per day every day ( or HMG 25 iu per day ) year round , HCG is like shooting Testosterone Suspension so no need for steroids.

Arimidex : half a tab per day

Clomid : 1 tab every 12 hours

Clen starting at 100mcg then after one week go to 200mcg

10 ( ten ) ketitifen tablets before sleep. (not to be taken during day time) Keto does 3 things:

Works like valium for sleeping. more sleep = more natural HGH , 2. Upgrades Clen Receptors. 3. If you are taking T3/T4 it stop Thyroid conversion in the liver. Thats why taking T3 alone will not work , keto fix that ..

Whey protein or dry skim milk 50 grams x 4 times a day.

Workouts: Heavy Squats or Deadlifts. Do reps to failure and get at least 8 hours of sleep each night

[Machola]

the ip no steroid cycle. never tried it and i would be worried to take that much hcg.:eek: i'm not sure how safe that is

[trickk034]

so, no steroids and only squats and deads? i would rather jump off a roof before doing it that way!:p

[Benner]

the ip no steroid cycle. never tried it and i would be worried to take that much hcg.:eek: i'm not sure how safe that is

You got it partner. When I saw it I could'nt believe it, seems like that would be harmful. I think I'll stick to gear and proper PCT

[kevin3987]

so, no steroids and only squats and deads? i would rather jump off a roof before doing it that way!:p

I got ya BRo! a fuckking wicked high roof at that!:eek::eek:

[ROCK157]

Stick to the basic test cycle. Tried and true.

[wistrongman]

Workouts: Heavy Squats or Deadlifts. Do reps to failure and get at least 8 hours of sleep each night

This is absolutely retarded! I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that I squat and DL more than anyone on this forum, because I LOVE squats and deads! I do some form of DL 1-2 days every week, and I do periodized various squats 2-3 days every week.

BUT! Doing squats and deads at high reps to failure in every workout is one of the most retarded things I've ever heard of. My CNS is shutting down just thinking about it! :eek:

[No-Go]

starting clen at 100mcg,Good luck

[Benner]

The only thing beneficial I think is the ketotifen to refresh clen receptors, and the protein reference. Crazy shit though. Would'nt this have your natural test absolutely at the highest human level? The HCG and clomid?

[lostwars]

u find that shit at ip?

[newguy666]

starting clen at 100mcg,Good luck

lol... and have 911 on speed dial.:D

[giff]

hcg 1000 ed all year around! you will never be able to recover

[Machola]

hcg 1000 ed all year around! you will never be able to recover

and your nuts would be the size of tennis balls:D

[Krom]

Too much Ket. I only need 3 to 5 mg and I sleep like a corpse. 10mg seems like a lot. Maybe this is for a drug tested athlete?

[lunny]

and your nuts would be the size of tennis balls:D

Not to mention BLUE!!!!!

[Benner]

Too much Ket. I only need 3 to 5 mg and I sleep like a corpse. 10mg seems like a lot. Maybe this is for a drug tested athlete?

Hey 'krom' do you take it while on clen? If so, how are the results?

[twigman]

My doc says that he treats people with hcg if they are in a low/normal range like 300 but it can only bring your natural test up about 100 points.If I remember correctly hcg is made from the urine of a pregnant woman so It would seem to me that it would be safer....man made or god made ....you choose.As for me I like the effects of test. and I'm sticking to it.

[Krom]

Hey 'krom' do you take it while on clen? If so, how are the results?

I took it but I liked it more for improving my sleep. I'm not sure how well it worked but I'm not going to bother with it anymore.