Dbol or Tbol

[njkid27]

Dbol or Tbol which do you guys prefer or have used. Heard the Tbol has less water retention. But as far as strength and sides which is preferred.

ALSO IS TBOL OUT OF STOCK?

[lola26]

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[njkid27]

Im just asking in general, im still researching for my 2nd cycle. something to kickstart the 500mg sust i plan to take. im 28 5'9"180

[lola26]

dbol gives more strength and more water retention. either or would be ok to run 4-6 weeks to jumpstart a long estered cycle

i highly reccomend a ai be run with either of them, more so dbol.

[njkid27]

dbol gives more strength and more water retention. either or would be ok to run 4-6 weeks to jumpstart a long estered cycle

i highly reccomend a ai be run with either of them, more so dbol.

Armidex .25mg throughout or just while running dbol?

Would proviron throughout help with the bloat of Dbol? (planning on running proviron throughout anyway)

[lola26]

adex thoughout the entire cycle and up to your pct.

[lola26]

post your full cycle including pct.

[njkid27]

post your full cycle including pct.

Again still reseraching but thinking of this

Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ED
week 1-10 500mg Sustanon split 2x week
week 1-10 50mg Proviron ED
week 1-10 .25mg Arimidex ED

Maybe HCG if so 500iu every 5 days

PCT 2 week after with Nolva and Clomid for 21 days

[Alin]

Dbol or Tbol which do you guys prefer or have used. Heard the Tbol has less water retention. But as far as strength and sides which is preferred.

ALSO IS TBOL OUT OF STOCK?

both are great orals IMO.

[unclevername]

Again still reseraching but thinking of this

Week 1-4 40mg Dbol ED
week 1-10 500mg Sustanon split 2x week
week 1-10 50mg Proviron ED
week 1-10 .25mg Arimidex ED

Maybe HCG if so 500iu every 5 days

PCT 2 week after with Nolva and Clomid for 21 days

This needs some tweaking, but first lets have some stats.

Age
Weight
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Cycle history
Work out history
Goals

[njkid27]

This needs some tweaking, but first lets have some stats.

Age
Weight
BF%
Cycle history
Work out history
Goals

Im 28 5'9 180 about 14% bf. Did 1 cycle 7 months ago of Sustanon, started at 250mg week for 4 weeks then did 500mg. Made good gains and got stronger but I messed up on the PCT and lost everything so I will make sure PCT is here before i start. I just want to put a little more weight on and get more lean, I noticed with my first cycle people who hadn't seem in in a few months all comments on how bigger I was, but I also feel I had a bit of water retention. So my goal with this one is to get the same results, a little faster (therefore the dbol) and to get a little leaner (proviron has been said to help)
Thoughts?

[unclevername]

Im 28 5'9 180 about 14% bf. Did 1 cycle 7 months ago of Sustanon, started at 250mg week for 4 weeks then did 500mg. Made good gains and got stronger but I messed up on the PCT and lost everything so I will make sure PCT is here before i start. I just want to put a little more weight on and get more lean, I noticed with my first cycle people who hadn't seem in in a few months all comments on how bigger I was, but I also feel I had a bit of water retention. So my goal with this one is to get the same results, a little faster (therefore the dbol) and to get a little leaner (proviron has been said to help)
Thoughts?

Okay bro, here is my opinion. First, Lose 2% BF before you start.
If you are going to use Sust you don't need the dbol kicker becuase it has short ester test that will get you going. But you need to inject it EOD. So if you want to inject 2X a week run test C or E and then go with the DBol kicker as you have planned. Get your diet and training down. Your PCT has to include Clomid and Nolva for three weeks like perscribed 1000 times on this board.

[bulldawg305]

Dbol imo

[ironfreak703]

naps were the best dbol i have tried.. havnt tried the blue hearts though... but u will put on lots of water... during a winter bulker i wouldnt mind so much.. but with it coming close to spring i would not want to b walking around with my shirt off a bloated mess.. go with the tbol bro.... run dbol over the winter...

[The BB Monad]

Dbols are great, specially the blue hearts but they make me bloat like shit. Nowadays I kickstart my cycle with Alin's Tbol at 50-60mg for 4 weeks. I still get the same strength and some size which I keep and don't end up looking like a blowfish...

I usually run Sustenon with all my cycles (except when cutting), and add Proviron and some arimidex EOD throughout the cycle.

[sti360hp]

Hate to be the T-bol fanboy... but I'm on week 4 and I love it, minimal bloat, strength increase, increased vascularity etc...

[The BB Monad]

Hate to be the T-bol fanboy... but I'm on week 4 and I love it, minimal bloat, strength increase, increased vascularity etc...

I don't even bloat at all on Tbol but when I'm on Dbol everyone tells me I'm getting fat! :mad:

[cj2]

[QUOTE=unclevername;160986]Okay bro, here is my opinion. First, Lose 2% BF before you start.
If you are going to use Sust you don't need the dbol kicker becuase it has short ester test that will get you going. But you need to inject it EOD. So if you want to inject 2X a week run test C or E

sust eod? i was going to run this 2x a week also, eod is going to mean 1000mg a week!
anyone else tried this?

[ironfreak703]

yes i allways run sust eod.. u get the benifits of the short esters that way.. other wise ur test level will be all over the place if u are injecting twice a week... u dont have to use a full ml evertime bro.. u can run .75ml every shot.. or .5 ml.. whatever u do to reach ur total test number for the week.. and remember if u have stealth it is overdosed.. so .5 eod would be fine

[automatic]

Dbol or Tbol which do you guys prefer or have used. Heard the Tbol has less water retention. But as far as strength and sides which is preferred.

ALSO IS TBOL OUT OF STOCK?

I used alins t-bol and loved it.good strength gains.less water retention than d-bol.i havent tried his d-bol because i got a good deal on the blue hearts.