NPP & Water Gain????

[mccollumstacy]

Thinking way out there guys - Probably 3-4 mo down the road...

I have ran NPP twice in the past - a couple years back was the last go. I ran it with high amounts of Test - so I am not sure what the water was a result of. I am thinking of running it w/ little to no test in a cycle - but wonder what the results in regards to water gain will be. I am succeptable to Bloat on Deca, so would I most probably be a candidate for bloat on NPP also? Just looking for some experience with NPP? Thanks guys

[FordTurboDiesel]

I didn't get any bloat. One of the reasons I ran PheylProp is that I didn't want those sides. Like most will tell you though....everyone is different. My experiences on AAS so far have been less than stellar.

[lunny]

Thinking way out there guys - Probably 3-4 mo down the road...

I have ran NPP twice in the past - a couple years back was the last go. I ran it with high amounts of Test - so I am not sure what the water was a result of. I am thinking of running it w/ little to no test in a cycle - but wonder what the results in regards to water gain will be. I am succeptable to Bloat on Deca, so would I most probably be a candidate for bloat on NPP also? Just looking for some experience with NPP? Thanks guys

If you are susceptible to bloat!! then most likely you will from the test as well. You are better off running NPP as opposed to DECA... If you keep the test lower with the NPP you should notice it less. Also Mccoll did you run AI durring your last cycles? That helped me out tremendously!!! Plus if your going to run NPP might as well run test Prop that way you can pin all together... That again will help with the bloating..

[drob29]

If you are susceptible to bloat!! then most likely you will from the test as well. You are better off running NPP as opposed to DECA... If you keep the test lower with the NPP you should notice it less. Also Mccoll did you run AI durring your last cycles? That helped me out tremendously!!! Plus if your going to run NPP might as well run test Prop that way you can pin all together... That again will help with the bloating..

Bump LUNY. good info:cool:

[thym43]

If you are susceptible to bloat!! then most likely you will from the test as well. You are better off running NPP as opposed to DECA... If you keep the test lower with the NPP you should notice it less. Also Mccoll did you run AI durring your last cycles? That helped me out tremendously!!! Plus if your going to run NPP might as well run test Prop that way you can pin all together... That again will help with the bloating..

Good stuff!! I ran exactly that, prop. and NPP along with A bombs. Now, due to the A bombs I was uncomfortable for the first few weeks but I settled in. Held some water but nothing like I did on a sust/deca cycle. gains were quality and relatively clean and dry. Would definitely do it again.

[musclehead33]

If you are susceptible to bloat!! then most likely you will from the test as well. You are better off running NPP as opposed to DECA... If you keep the test lower with the NPP you should notice it less. Also Mccoll did you run AI durring your last cycles? That helped me out tremendously!!! Plus if your going to run NPP might as well run test Prop that way you can pin all together... That again will help with the bloating..

right on target bro.should be a good run.

[drob29]

wow! three bumps in a row for luny??? good job luny:D

(DONT LET IT GO TO YOUR HEAD!!) :cool:

[mccollumstacy]

If you are susceptible to bloat!! then most likely you will from the test as well. You are better off running NPP as opposed to DECA... If you keep the test lower with the NPP you should notice it less. Also Mccoll did you run AI durring your last cycles? That helped me out tremendously!!! Plus if your going to run NPP might as well run test Prop that way you can pin all together... That again will help with the bloating..

If I ran a very low dose of Test (say 75 eod) I wouldn't need AI - Or am missing something. A-Dex is no good for Deca, NPP, Tren, EQ, TBOL - Or am I totally incorrect?

For example: my current cycle: 600 eq, 400 Deca, (now dropping test completely from this cycle) I shouldn't need an AI - right? My upcoming cut cycle: 200 Tren Enan Wk; 100 Tren Ace eod; 600 EQ wk - I shouldn't need an AI - right? Test is the major culprit in needing an AI - correct?

I know these are basic questions - and I pretty much know the answers - but I have read several post lately were guys are recommending AI's for potential Progest. Gyno & Water Gain from aas such as Deca. Just reaffirming my, and potentially others understanding of some of these basics. There seems to be quite a bit of bad info being posted lately.

[FordTurboDiesel]

Adex is used to keep the bloat down.

[lunny]

wow! three bumps in a row for luny??? good job luny:D

(DONT LET IT GO TO YOUR HEAD!!) :cool:

Hey drob just tryin to make you proud!! LOL...:D:D:D:D

If I ran a very low dose of Test (say 75 eod) I wouldn't need AI - Or am missing something. A-Dex is no good for Deca, NPP, Tren, EQ, TBOL - Or am I totally incorrect?

For example: my current cycle: 600 eq, 400 Deca, (now dropping test completely from this cycle) I shouldn't need an AI - right? My upcoming cut cycle: 200 Tren Enan Wk; 100 Tren Ace eod; 600 EQ wk - I shouldn't need an AI - right? Test is the major culprit in needing an AI - correct?

I know these are basic questions - and I pretty much know the answers - but I have read several post lately were guys are recommending AI's for potential Progest. Gyno & Water Gain from aas such as Deca. Just reaffirming my, and potentially others understanding of some of these basics. There seems to be quite a bit of bad info being posted lately.

For one bud Adex is a ok with everything! Nolva is what you dont want to mix with Tren and Deca.....

You are right all the compounds that you are running dont aromatize.. There fore you wont need an AI... But with the tren and Deca you do run risk of Prolactin related Gyno... So with that being said Caber sitting around is your best bet!!

[mccollumstacy]

Hey drob just tryin to make you proud!! LOL...:D:D:D:D



For one bud Adex is a ok with everything! Nolva is what you dont want to mix with Tren and Deca.....

You are right all the compounds that you are running dont aromatize.. There fore you wont need an AI... But with the tren and Deca you do run risk of Prolactin related Gyno... So with that being said Caber sitting around is your best bet!!

Confusing me Lunny (not hard to do obviously)

I know Adex is not harmful with anything - but what is the point in running Aroma Blocker if the compounds don't aromatize. And I understand Caber & Bromo are neccessary - I have them. But adex isn't going to help with bloat gained from Deca is it? And thanks in advance for answering some basics for me? I only started using AI's in the last year or so - I always just dealt with the water gain from Test as it was and I have never had gyno probs

[lunny]

Confusing me Lunny (not hard to do obviously)

I know Adex is not harmful with anything - but what is the point in running Aroma Blocker if the compounds don't aromatize. And I understand Caber & Bromo are neccessary - I have them. But adex isn't going to help with bloat gained from Deca is it?

Yes it will help with the bloat because it drops your natural estrogen levels which are which are correlated to water! but lower estrogen can hinder gains! so its a lose lose situation!!

[mccollumstacy]

Ok - I got it now. Thanks for clearing it up - I learn something new here every day - I do alot of reading up over at PM - but those guys are far ahead of me in the lingo they use - I really don't post over there because of not having anything to offer - This is home

[lunny]

Ok - I got it now. Thanks for clearing it up - I learn something new here every day - I do alot of reading up over at PM - but those guys are far ahead of me in the lingo they use - I really don't post over there because of not having anything to offer - This is home

Were glad to have you :D:D

[Alin]

Thinking way out there guys - Probably 3-4 mo down the road...

I have ran NPP twice in the past - a couple years back was the last go. I ran it with high amounts of Test - so I am not sure what the water was a result of. I am thinking of running it w/ little to no test in a cycle - but wonder what the results in regards to water gain will be. I am succeptable to Bloat on Deca, so would I most probably be a candidate for bloat on NPP also? Just looking for some experience with NPP? Thanks guys

same as deca just shorter acting.