Lengthy Cycle

[jamieworley]

This is a long cycle, but here it is.
5’10
Roughly 10%bf
180 lbs.


Week 1-10 Equipose 400mg a week
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week
Week 11-16 Tren Ace 100mg eod
Week 11-16 Test Prop 100mg eod
Week 1-16 Novladex 10mg twice a daily
Week 1-19 Arimidex .25mg once daily (I tend to get gyno real easy, and also trying to prevent the gyno or get rid of the gyno I have now)
PCT
Week 17 Clomid 100mg/Nolva 40mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 18 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 19 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg Armidex .25mg daily


I have a friend that wanted to stack Masteron 100mg with the Tren Ace. 100mg and Test Prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks. I told him that was a little extreme. It’s ok…. I’ll let him be the genie pig and see how it comes out.
So, tell me what you think I have here.

[tatteredxangelx]

the masteron/testp/trena stack is going to hurt like a bitch, but if hes tryen to cut up hes on the right track :)

[larz]

Personally i would frontload with the prop/tren combo for the first six weeks, so as to kick start gains with the short esters while waiting for longer esters to "kick in".

Tren has a reputation of shutting you down hard. so people tend to avoid using it at the end of a cycle when PCT becomes so important to holding onto cycle gains. I would use prop/masteron last 4 weeks of cycle though, as this would be a nice "tail off" into PCT, enabling you to come out looking hard and vascular while maintaing as much mass as possible!

[tatteredxangelx]

I dont know anything about equipise so im going to leave that out. I would do

week 1-16 test e 500mg
week 1-6 prop shoot ED (instead of 1cc EOD, id do .5CC ED)
week 1-6 tren a shoot ED (instead of 1cc EOD, id do .5CC ED)

if equipise is the same as deca, as I hear its similar ... Id run it week 1-12 at 400-600mg ... and use masteron the last 6 weeks of your cycle into PCT

[Alin]

This is a long cycle, but here it is.
5’10
Roughly 10%bf
180 lbs.


Week 1-10 Equipose 400mg a week
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week
Week 11-16 Tren Ace 100mg eod
Week 11-16 Test Prop 100mg eod
Week 1-16 Novladex 10mg twice a daily
Week 1-19 Arimidex .25mg once daily (I tend to get gyno real easy, and also trying to prevent the gyno or get rid of the gyno I have now)
PCT
Week 17 Clomid 100mg/Nolva 40mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 18 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 19 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg Armidex .25mg daily


I have a friend that wanted to stack Masteron 100mg with the Tren Ace. 100mg and Test Prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks. I told him that was a little extreme. It’s ok…. I’ll let him be the genie pig and see how it comes out.
So, tell me what you think I have here.



That is long cycle. I would avoid the adex during PCT.

[aintnothingtoitbuttodoitC]

That is long cycle. I would avoid the adex during PCT.

Agree with Alin. The cycle is very long, please rethink it. If you are to do the cycle for that long please avoid adex during PCT, like Alin says.

[jamieworley]

Well, I'm not going to do a bulk only cycle because summer is right around the corner.
What if I decide to do this.
Masteron 100mg eod
Test Prop 100mg eod
Tren Ace 100mg eod
Equipose 400mg a week
for 6 to 10 weeks. 10 meaning if I can handle the side effects. I'm shooting for 8 weeks.
PCT
Week 9 Clomid 100mg/Nolva 40mg
Week 10 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg
Week 11 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 20mg

How is that for a cutting cycle.

[tatteredxangelx]

u can drop the equipose man ... too many compounds at once.

[sTaTic]

well I love EQ and would add it to any cycle i do. Gives out a good pump and I get veiny as hell. EQ is always good IMO

[Kaiser]

Personally i would frontload with the prop/tren combo for the first six weeks, so as to kick start gains with the short esters while waiting for longer esters to "kick in".

This voids out his cutting effect at the end of his cycle though.

[gscott]

Eq is good for stimulating your appetite so if you are bulking you can load up on the calories. I think test e and eq is a great combo I would even throw in some d-bol, eq will also give you a lean build too am I not correst guys?

[arnold jr]

This is a long cycle, but here it is.
5’10
Roughly 10%bf
180 lbs.


Week 1-10 Equipose 400mg a week
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week
Week 11-16 Tren Ace 100mg eod
Week 11-16 Test Prop 100mg eod
Week 1-16 Novladex 10mg twice a daily
Week 1-19 Arimidex .25mg once daily (I tend to get gyno real easy, and also trying to prevent the gyno or get rid of the gyno I have now)
PCT
Week 17 Clomid 100mg/Nolva 40mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 18 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 19 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg Armidex .25mg daily


I have a friend that wanted to stack Masteron 100mg with the Tren Ace. 100mg and Test Prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks. I told him that was a little extreme. It’s ok…. I’ll let him be the genie pig and see how it comes out.
So, tell me what you think I have here.

Cycle should be fine, nothing in this world wrong with a 16wk cycle, this is a very good time frame IMO.

I would however drop the nolva during cycle and just run a-dex...no need for both. I'd go either .50mg ed or 1mg eod. This should take care of any gyno problem you might be having, if not go even higher, I've run a-dex 1mg ed with good success.

I would also drop the a-dex during PCT, no need for this because it can actually hamper your PCT...stick with clomid, nolva, or you might even consider dropping the clomid and going with nolva and Aromasin for PCT. Another guy I know has been touting this type of PCT for a while, he says, "Aromasin can be combined with Nolvadex and HCG for PCT without inhibiting the other two's effects on LH and FSH, basically it will suppress rising estrogen levels without supressing the body's ability to produce it's own testosterone levels at the same time. Arimidex and Femara do not have this benefit." Here is a helpful link:
http://www.mesomorphosis.com/articles/anthony-roberts/post-cycle-therapy.htm

Last off, consider HCG as part of your cycle 300-500iu e5d throughout, any cycle this long this should be considered. If you don't use it definitely use it PCT.

Arnold jr.

[OuchThatHurts]

This is a long cycle, but here it is.
5’10
Roughly 10%bf
180 lbs.


Week 1-10 Equipose 400mg a week
Week 1-10 Test E 500mg a week
Week 11-16 Tren Ace 100mg eod
Week 11-16 Test Prop 100mg eod
Week 1-16 Novladex 10mg twice a daily
Week 1-19 Arimidex .25mg once daily (I tend to get gyno real easy, and also trying to prevent the gyno or get rid of the gyno I have now)
PCT
Week 17 Clomid 100mg/Nolva 40mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 18 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg/Armidex .25mg daily
Week 19 Clomid 50mg/ Nolva 30mg Armidex .25mg daily


I have a friend that wanted to stack Masteron 100mg with the Tren Ace. 100mg and Test Prop 100mg eod for 8 weeks. I told him that was a little extreme. It’s ok…. I’ll let him be the genie pig and see how it comes out.
So, tell me what you think I have here.
I think it looks pretty good to me. 16 weeks isn't long! That's probably a good time frame for an experienced user and even short for an advanced user

If it were me, I'd stick with the A-dex during cycle and drop the Nolva, and bring in the Nolva PC and then drop the A-dex. Otherwise looks good.

I also might, if and ONLY if necessary around week 13 use 200iu hcg ED or EOD if you notice the boys a little shrunken. This might be good for when he clomid does it's job as your boys will be plump and ready to start up.

[edit]I didn't copy this from the precious post but he is right on! sorry... but now you have two opinions... LOL

[kaelalden]

u can drop the equipose man ... too many compounds at once.

Tatter you stated earlier that you didn’t know anything about equipoise.
I think the cycle looks good.
IMO I would only run the arimidex for the first 10 weeks or so, because after the 10th week, the other stuff doesn’t aromatize into estrogen; therefore, no need to run it afterwards.