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anaholic
03-14-2006, 10:36 PM
a few years ago i was a very serious bodybuilder, i ate every 3-4 hours i spent alot of money on shit, i brought pills to work, you know what it got me, it got me fucked up, my wife divorced me, i got no promotions at work, and the worst is it got me no respect, nobody respects a freak, they think its easy to be like that it just takes steriods, the only one who will apreciate your hard work is a fellow bobybuilder, i remember when i won my first national qualifier, i was on my way, when in reality i was on the first step of the ladder, i remember being at work and telling everyone i had to take a shit, and really it was time to eat, i was standing there trying to eat real fast and my supervisor looked in the door, shook his head and walked off, i told him in an angry manner ive got to eat every 3 hours, they dont understand, my advise to all is dont jepordize your family, your job, your health, to be a bodybuilder, view it as a hobby, the most you should want out of it is to look good and maybe get an ocasional piece of hot ass

E2X
03-15-2006, 12:01 AM
Well put. Junior members should heed this friendly advice. The other reality that may be hard to swallow is that most people, drugs or no drugs, do not have the genetics or drive to make it to the top. Yes, there will be set backs, but if that's what you want....you must pay for it.

E2X

JILANI
03-15-2006, 12:06 AM
I am in total agreement with you, I'm sorry you lost your wife though, I started using after I was wounded in the Army back in '93, when I was released from the hospital in Germany and sent home I weighed 130lbs and at 6'1'' you can only imagine how I looked...my mom fed me alot and I gained 10lbs, when I returned to Germany a friend of mine gave me my first tabs of dbols, from there I went on to decas,test,sust and 100% amino acids in vials, I went up to 230lbs in 6 months. I stopped when I almost killed my wife in '99
I was about to pile drive her into the floor...I was in a rage. It was affecting my job too because I was a cop and the last thing the people here need is another violent cop especially after what Justin Volpe did to Abner Luima.
I came back to the game two years ago with the approval of my wife, she injects me and even buys the gear for me because she knows that I've overcome my anger problems so no matter what I take I wont lose it, in my pursuit to get huge it almost cost me my wife, my freedom, my job and my family. Now I just do it for vanity purposes.

JustBecause
03-15-2006, 04:17 AM
I am SO, SO, glad to hear this from you guys. My husband seems very "hightened" with his emotions. He does not do this for professional purposes, but as Jilani stated, vanity. He just wants to be BIG. He was chubby as an elementary student, then REALLY skinny in high school. No matter what, someone had to get their picks in on him. Now it is just a vengance. When we see people now...they act like his best friend...first response is geezus you big fu**er, how the hell are ya!!!!!!!!!

But it is actually comforting to know that this is the way it is.

Let me ask this question...How are you afffected with different substances?

First cycle was EQ with proviron...attitude was amazing, sex was even better than that, and he was actually a pleasure to be around, very playful but in a cocky sarcastic way.

Now, this cycle is sust, deca and dbol with nolv and hcg...what an asshole, his temper and fuse are extremely short and he is the most irritable soul I've ever been around :eek:

Kaiser
03-15-2006, 04:52 AM
Now, this cycle is sust, deca and dbol with nolv and hcg...what an asshole, his temper and fuse are extremely short and he is the most irritable soul I've ever been around :eek:


It may be the sustanon. People do not realize just how hard it is to regulate the esters. As a matter of fact, they just dont make sense to a body builder. The short ester is to short, the long, is to long and the ones in between don't fill in the gaps correctly. Everyone thinks that you only need to shoot it 2 times a week, but in reality the way the esters do not overlap or connect evenly, you should actually shoot it every other day in shorter doses. This drug was originally made for doctors to see a patient and shoot it once every 3 or 4 weeks for medicinal purposes. Hence he may be getting an emotional roller coaster effect. This is a known problem amongst a few multiple estered AAS and Test. Test Enanthate is probably the best choice, and cheaper for that matter. Also, get him off of the Dbol if he's been on it for more than 4 weeks. Not good and very toxic exceeding that time period. Deca for some may make people a little arrogant, but it doesn't do that to me. It just makes me horney as hell...

tatteredxangelx
03-15-2006, 05:00 AM
roid rage isnt real. There is no reason to be an asshole just because you have more testosterone in you. When I was 16 and started, I felt "roid rage" than i got locked up for assault with a deadly weapon and realized .... STOP. Now im running 2g of gear a week and never felt happier, more alive, even tho my skin looks like shit! If it is really that hard for him to calm down recommend yoga or my favorite ... marijuana :p

Kaiser
03-15-2006, 05:15 AM
I also agree to most of your replies out there. I have always lifted for myself, and myself only. Just so I am happy with how I am built. I dont compete, but I understand the drive. What I dont understand is how people do not realize that 1 out of a million people's physiques out there can take them to the top in this sport. In the mean time they overkill the Gear trying to get there. What about a family? What about a career? Most importantly, what about health? These questions do not come about because I believe they are caught in a catch 22. The gear makes them feel like superman, so mentally they can't think twice about the challenge. Since they can't give up the challenge, they need more gear. Mindfuck if you want to call it that. Then what happens when you are off? Yo go through a gear down, which makes you want to go back on also. It's addictive in it's own way.

Which brings me to another related topic:
I have always been a person who says less is more. I don't understand some of the guys on here supporting newbies for their first cycle when they want to stack it with your normal Test base, Deca, and top it off with Winny. Why support this for someone who is new and never touch anything? This is just bad judgement as far as I'm concerned. These guys should be starting off slow. Start the off with 400-500mg of test and see how the user reacts to that. Let them get a baseline of at least test. Then once they see the results, and only once they see the results, add an AAS of EDUCATED knowledge to take them to a higher level. Shit, most of these guys wont even need to go with anything else for the first couple of years. Lets start teaching them the right way, and in this order:

1. Training
2. Diet
3. Rest
4. Gear

Gear being the supplement to the first 3 mandatory events. Gear should not be the first, and that is what I have been seeing go on here for a while now.

Sorry for the rant, but this stuff has to stop and gear has to be respected before some newbie gets hurt.

Kaiser
03-15-2006, 05:21 AM
roid rage isnt real. There is no reason to be an asshole just because you have more testosterone in you. When I was 16 and started, I felt "roid rage" than i got locked up for assault with a deadly weapon and realized .... STOP. Now im running 2g of gear a week and never felt happier, more alive, even tho my skin looks like shit! If it is really that hard for him to calm down recommend yoga or my favorite ... marijuana :p

I think this may come with mental maturity. I am actually more volitale off gear than on. BUT, just like you, when I was younger, I was a madman on gear. For instance, now when I am in an argument with my wife and I am on gear, she can't get under my skin, because I am more confident while on, then off. Not sure if this plays into your line of thinking, but this is my reaction.

larz
03-15-2006, 05:35 AM
Its very important to maintain moderation in this sport. Always expand your horizons with other interests as well, it can easily become an addictive venture if you dont focus on other import things in life that take priority.

Everything in moderation, and focus on important things in your life, family being the number one consideration. If it becomes apparent they are being affected by your chosen sport, then its time to consider an alternative hobby.

anaholic
03-15-2006, 07:20 AM
you know how when your working on something and you get pissed and throw a wrench or hammer, well it just happens a little sooner when on the shit, the more shit your on the worse it is, maturity does help, but a relationship with christ and the holly spirit will help the most, the way life is its the one who looses their temper that looses

Alin
03-15-2006, 07:46 AM
a few years ago i was a very serious bodybuilder, i ate every 3-4 hours i spent alot of money on shit, i brought pills to work, you know what it got me, it got me fucked up, my wife divorced me, i got no promotions at work, and the worst is it got me no respect, nobody respects a freak, they think its easy to be like that it just takes steriods, the only one who will apreciate your hard work is a fellow bobybuilder, i remember when i won my first national qualifier, i was on my way, when in reality i was on the first step of the ladder, i remember being at work and telling everyone i had to take a shit, and really it was time to eat, i was standing there trying to eat real fast and my supervisor looked in the door, shook his head and walked off, i told him in an angry manner ive got to eat every 3 hours, they dont understand, my advise to all is dont jepordize your family, your job, your health, to be a bodybuilder, view it as a hobby, the most you should want out of it is to look good and maybe get an ocasional piece of hot ass


Some people have to make their own decisions and make reality checks to see if they have the genetics needed for high level bodybuilding,,,nothing wrong with being a non-competetive bodybuilder.

vbfcamp
03-15-2006, 11:59 AM
I agree with all of the comments. I've been working out for about 20 plus yrs naturally. I am now 44 and started taking gear at 40. I enjoy the feeling and look after I have taken my body as far as I can naturally. I do it for myself to look good and feel even better. I'm not going to lie, I like the attention that I get from the ladies. I can still turn some heads at my age. Some of the young guys don;t want to put in the work of reaching their natural potential first then get on some gear if you choose. Nothing replaces hard work, you can take all the gear you want but if your ass ain't hitting them weights, eating right and getting your rest it won't matter.To the contrary however, in my next life I wouldn't mind being a champion Mr.Olympia type bodybuilder. In my wildest dreams, should I be so lucky. GOOD post people.

Peace :D