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leistey
03-14-2006, 04:07 AM
I have done some research on spot injecting and wanted to know some others opinions. Has anyone on here ever done spot injecting in their pecs? Is there any real dangers with spot injecting??

k1*
03-14-2006, 05:06 AM
Is this your first cycle? What type of cycle are you running? The only time you should be running spot injections is for ED shots, IMO.

anaholic
03-14-2006, 06:04 AM
you are a girl arnt you? you need to be injecting into your muscle not your breast

jstforme
03-14-2006, 06:48 AM
you are a girl arnt you? you need to be injecting into your muscle not your breast

thats what i was going to say, and unless your down to single digit body fat numbers im sure it will be hard to see the pec, and even so, you must have well developed pecs in order to get the needle in deep.

Alin
03-14-2006, 08:14 AM
I have done some research on spot injecting and wanted to know some others opinions. Has anyone on here ever done spot injecting in their pecs? Is there any real dangers with spot injecting??


i've done biceps, triceps, delts, quads, etc..with good results. the pecs i have never tried.

leistey
03-14-2006, 10:27 AM
Yes I am a girl. I wasn't asking for me. My boyfriend injected one of his pecs for the first time tonight with Test Ethanate 250mg/ml and he's gonna inject the other one in a day or so. He also is running Deca. I done some research for him but didn't know if it was safe? Just wondering what you guys thought about it!!

Brianincali
03-14-2006, 10:45 AM
Yes I am a girl. I wasn't asking for me. My boyfriend injected one of his pecs for the first time tonight with Test Ethanate 250mg/ml and he's gonna inject the other one in a day or so. He also is running Deca. I done some research for him but didn't know if it was safe? Just wondering what you guys thought about it!!


Yeah it's safe if done correctly. I use a 25g 5/8in needle for pecs. Check out http://spotinjections.com/

leistey
03-14-2006, 10:52 AM
Yeah it's safe if done correctly. I use a 25g 5/8in needle for pecs. Check out http://spotinjections.com/


He used a 5/8 inch needle. Just wondering if doing chest reguarly how long before he will see definite results from this??

anaholic
03-14-2006, 10:55 AM
are you thinking its going to make his pecks grow?

leistey
03-14-2006, 11:16 AM
He seems to think that it will make his chest bigger. Is that true? Or what will it do?

anaholic
03-14-2006, 11:37 AM
thats like the oldest wise tell in the book

Brianincali
03-14-2006, 01:20 PM
He seems to think that it will make his chest bigger. Is that true? Or what will it do?

Spotinjecting AAS will not make a particular body part grow. The only compound that will do this is IGF.

chaz1255
03-14-2006, 11:13 PM
I have spot injected into my chest numerous times with various size needles usually 1 1/12 in long though. The old sustenon ready-jects with cannons for needles were the greatest. I remember pulling out the needles and looking straight into the hole...... That was many years ago, but I always found it easier then the glutes, I just have a hell of time getting around to my backside.....

JILANI
03-14-2006, 11:28 PM
He seems to think that it will make his chest bigger. Is that true? Or what will it do?


Injecting into the chest will not make it grow...I repeat, not make it grow, the only thing that will make his chest grow is good old lifting thats it. I suggest that the two of you do more research, the spot injections site is mediocre at best try www.howtodoinjections.com this site is much better, if he has any lagging parts of his pecs due to genetics then perhaps he can try syntherol (site enhancing oil) to bring everything up to speed.

anaholic
03-14-2006, 11:32 PM
chaz1255
your funny, i like it

Brianincali
03-15-2006, 09:40 AM
Quote:


Title: Localized infusion of IGF-I results in skeletal muscle hypertrophy in rats.
Researchers: Gregory R. Adams & Samuel A. McCue
Department of Physiology and Biophysics, University of California, Irvine, Ca.
Source: Journal of Applied Physiology 84(5): 1716-1722, 1998


Summary: The present study was undertaken to test the hypothesis that direct IGF-I infusion would result in an increase in muscle DNA as well as in various measurements of muscle size. Either 0.9% saline or nonsystemic doses of recombinant human IGF-I (rhIGF-1) were infused directly into a non-weight-bearing muscle of rats, the tibialis anterior (TA), via a fenestrated catheter attached to a subcutaneous miniosmotic pump. Saline infusion had no effect on the mass, protein content, or DNA content of TA muscles. Local IGF-I infusion had no effect on body or heart weight. The absolute weight of the infused TA muscles was ~9% greater (P < 0.05) than that of the contra-lateral TA muscles. IGF-I infusion resulted in significant increases in the total protein and DNA content of TA muscles (P < 0.05). As a result of these coordinated changes, the DNA-to-protein ratio of the hypertrophied TA was similar to that of the contra-lateral muscles. These results suggest that IGF-I may be acting to directly stimulate processes such as protein synthesis and satellite cell proliferation, which result in skeletal muscle hypertrophy.


Discussion: The details of the mechanisms and pathways by which mechanical stress stimulates localized muscle fiber hypertrophy are still being elucidated. It is clear however, that growth hormone (GH), fibroblast growth factors (FGF) and insulin-like growth factors (IGF) play a central role in this process. Insulin-like growth factor I (IGF-I) peptide levels have been shown to increase in overloaded skeletal muscles (G. R. Adams and F. Haddad. J. Appl. Physiol. 81: 2509-2516, 1996). In that study, there was an increase in IGF-1 content before measurable increases in muscle protein and was correlated with an increase in muscle DNA content. Several other studies have shown that muscle fibers undergoing hypertrophy, due to mechanical stress, express elevated levels of IGF-I prior to hypertrophy.

IGF-1 appears to be an important regulator of the nuclear to cytoplasmic ratio. Studies have show that a muscle will only undergo hypertrophy if it can maintain the ratio of the cell’s volume to the number of nuclei within a finite limit. In the study above, a relatively "unloaded" muscle, the anterior tibialis, was injection with 0.9 - 1.9 micrograms/kg/day of rhIGF-1 which then mimicked the effects of physically loading the muscle. There was an increase in protein content, cross sectional area and DNA content. The increase in muscle DNA is presumed to be a result of increased proliferation and differentiation of satellite cells which donate their nuclei upon fusion with damaged or hypertrophying muscle cells. Take note that the quantities of IGF-1 used in the injections were extremely small, much smaller than studies that have shown relatively poor results from administering IGF-1 systemically which range from 1.0 to 6.9 milligrams/kg/day.

All of the attention and discussion of half-hazzardly injecting fat into muscles to increase the girth of a limb is only a symptom of the obsessive nature of bodybuilding. I would imagine that locally injecting minute amounts (micrograms) of rhIGF-1 to actually increase the growth of individual muscles would be a far better alternative to injecting fat, Esiclene or even getting silicone implants. Those bodybuilders at the national or professional level with lagging calves would be wise to consider the results of this study should they stumble across a bottle of Genentech’s rhIGF-1!

utstacked
05-27-2006, 09:36 AM
I think you can inject it in the glute and get pretty much the same affect. The test will cycle through the body with in a few hours. If he wants his pecks to grow more so than anything else, he should tear them down good and give them plenty of rest. Does everyone else agree? I always inject in the glute and then rub it real well to get it dispersed.