Deca and Winny

[tbone326]

Hi how are you doing. I'm a male that is 5'10", 185lbs,and 25 years old.I was wondering if I stacked Deca and Winny what would be a good cycle (meaning doses and such)?I have 30 amps deca 100mg per ml organon, and placed an order from alin for 3 stanozobol BD 10ml 50mg/ml.And what is up with parobolan?
Thanks

[jstforme]

read read read read read read thats the advice i will give you. you will learn dosage and effects and what not after you read, go to steroidsprofiles.com or one of the HUNDREDS that are out there. as far as parabolan read read read. do you have a pct?

[anaholic]

400mg per weekdecca
50mg every other day winny
parabolin is tren H

[tbone326]

read read read read read read thats the advice i will give you. you will learn dosage and effects and what not after you read, go to steroidsprofiles.com or one of the HUNDREDS that are out there. as far as parabolan read read read. do you have a pct?


No I dont have PCt..Do you need PCT?

[jstforme]

yup youll need a pct, dont forget that winny shouldnt be used longer that 6 weeks at a time.

[bod1ggity]

No I dont have PCt..Do you need PCT?

Wow man, you got alot of research to do before you step into gear, also whats your diet and workout plan like?

PCT is needed so you dont crash and lose all the gains you worked so hard to make, trust me its very much worth it.

[anaholic]

you only need pct if you want your balls to be a decent size and you want to keep the gains you made on your cycle

[tbone326]

so what do i need as a pct for decca and winny?

[anaholic]

clomid works best for me, although i take it anytime my balls start getting smaller

[bod1ggity]

I recommend Nolv over Clomid any day, scientific studdies prove it more effective and nolv doesnt make me feel like a woman.

[anaholic]

my own studies say nolvadex doesnt make your balls bigger, clomid does,

[tbone326]

I received my first postcard, 8 days after shipped.thanks alinshop

[Milky87]

my own studies say nolvadex doesnt make your balls bigger, clomid does,
They work via the same mechanism to acheive the same goal. They are the same

Your studies are wrong

[bod1ggity]

They work via the same mechanism to acheive the same goal. They are the same

Your studies are wrong

bumpin milky
;)

[anaholic]

now thats funny, now we have guys taking novadex to make there balls bigger, the questions and comments on this board are truly funny.

[tbone326]

now thats funny, now we have guys taking novadex to make there balls bigger, the questions and comments on this board are truly funny.


I always had small balls so i can take novadex to get my balls bigger huh thanks for the tip. :)

[anaholic]

nolvadex does not combat testicle atrophy!
if you guys are being smart asses i dont think its funny

[Kaiser]

nolvadex does not combat testicle atrophy!
if you guys are being smart asses i dont think its funny

He's right. It goes straight to estrogen receptors for the breasts/chest only.

[Milky87]

^ and what do you suppose it is that clomiphene does?

greater reversal of testicular atrophy is purely subjective. There are NO studies that say clomiphene is better than tamoxifene for it

[Beetlejuice]

Nolvadex is strictly an estrogen blocker, while clomid is an estrogen blocker and it stimulates the pituatary to make gonaditropin, which in turn stimulates the nuts. Nolvadex is designed to fight breast cancer by stopping new tissue growth in the breast. Clomid is a fertility drug designed to stimulate a woman to drop her eggs more frequently. In men it causes the nuts to make more testosterone and little swimmers.

^ and what do you suppose it is that clomiphene does?

greater reversal of testicular atrophy is purely subjective. There are NO studies that say clomiphene is better than tamoxifene for it

[Kaiser]

Nolvadex is strictly an estrogen blocker, while clomid is an estrogen blocker and it stimulates the pituatary to make gonaditropin, which in turn stimulates the nuts. Nolvadex is designed to fight breast cancer by stopping new tissue growth in the breast. Clomid is a fertility drug designed to stimulate a woman to drop her eggs more frequently. In men it causes the nuts to make more testosterone and little swimmers.


Exactly. Thanks BJ.

[anaholic]

i know that clomid is fda approved for women that cant get pregnant, my old nieghbor was saving up for some they were charging her 400 dollars for 5 pills here in the us,and her insurance wouldnt cover it, when she told me this i said oh i have some, ill just give 5 pills, she was of the brained washed folk, and didnt trust imported drugs that were way cheaper, i was just like whatever.
i know nolvadex is fda approved for women with breast cancer, it simply locks into the estrogen receptors on the mast/breast, the tumor on the breast would be estrogen dependant for growth, the tumors would have estrogen type receptors which would be occupied by the nolvadex, the novadex can occupy these receptors for up to 60 days, where as estrogen will lock into the same receptor send a signal release and float away in a matter of minutes
with this said 1 shouldnt take clomid for breast cancer and 1 shouldnt take nolvadex to get pregnant
a few years ago i went nateral, i took clomid during this time and the results were comparible to a mild anabolic, my wife actually accused me of juicing, thats no bs, i know i have a dry sense of humor but iam not joking now

[Kaiser]

i know that clomid is fda approved for women that cant get pregnant, my old nieghbor was saving up for some they were charging her 400 dollars for 5 pills here in the us,and her insurance wouldnt cover it, when she told me this i said oh i have some, ill just give 5 pills, she was of the brained washed folk, and didnt trust imported drugs that were way cheaper, i was just like whatever.
i know nolvadex is fda approved for women with breast cancer, it simply locks into the estrogen receptors on the mast/breast, the tumor on the breast would be estrogen dependant for growth, the tumors would have estrogen type receptors which would be occupied by the nolvadex, the novadex can occupy these receptors for up to 60 days, where as estrogen will lock into the same receptor send a signal release and float away in a matter of minutes
with this said 1 shouldnt take clomid for breast cancer and 1 shouldnt take nolvadex to get pregnant
a few years ago i went nateral, i took clomid during this time and the results were comparible to a mild anabolic, my wife actually accused me of juicing, thats no bs, i know i have a dry sense of humor but iam not joking now


You are correct in all of this.

[ianroberts]

Beetlejuice is 100% correct with his descriptions of clomid and nolvadex.
Has anybody tried trib & zinc for pct?

[Milky87]

I checked my MIMs to see what each is indicated for and clomid is certainly used as a fertility drug, but none of you have provided evidence to support your claim that clomid is better for stimulating gonadtropins

[Kaiser]

I checked my MIMs to see what each is indicated for and clomid is certainly used as a fertility drug, but none of you have provided evidence to support your claim that clomid is better for stimulating gonadtropins


Here is one of the hundred that are out there:

http://sharedjourney.com/define/proxeed.html


Would have been just as easy for you to google "clomid gonadotropins men".

[Milky87]

According to that website you posted Kaiser:
Testosterone deficiency can often be attributed to a lack of gonadotropins. To help stimulate the release of gonadotropins, men can also receive antiestrogen fertility drugs. Usual antiestrogen medications prescribed to men include tamoxifen (Nolvadex) and clomiphene (Clomid).

However, the use of antiestrogens may boost testosterone production in men to above normal levels, which can negatively impact on sperm production. Therefore, men receiving this type of therapy should have their testosterone levels monitored. Moreover, the FDA has not approved the use of Clomid in men nor has it been found to be especially effective. Side effects of clomiphene in men include weight gain or loss, vision problems, skin changes, libido changes and neurological or gastrointestinal disturbances.

While it most certainly does say that clomiphene can be used to increase testosterone, it doesnt say it is better for it. It actually says - highlighted - that is isnt very effective.

[anaholic]

all right, ill take clomid for gyno and nolvadex for testicle atrophy, if i grow tits ill come looking for ya!

[Beetlejuice]

Ani you fucking kill me. I get more laughs from the shit you post :p . Back on this subject the truth is that after 30 damn years of usage the BB community knows how to use these 2 compounds. Common wisdom is common for a reason. Personally I hate nolvadex. It actually can retard your gains during a cycle. Use Clomid for PCT and Femara for boobies.


all right, ill take clomid for gyno and nolvadex for testicle atrophy, if i grow tits ill come looking for ya!