last question before i buy my cycle

[allside02]

ok. i am a newbie, i had a post about a week ago and decided on this cycle that is offered on the website.

Newbee cycle #2:

Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

i had a few questions;
can i add winstrol to this from week 7-10, so i can slim down the water retention and lean out some?
and after reading many posts on this board, i was wondering if i really need nolva, clomid, and clen. this is my first cycle, so i just want to make sure.
thanks in advance

[allside02]

or could i switch my cycle to
week 1-8 sust.--750mg/week
week 5-8 winstrol--50mg/day

since it's my first, i would probably start out with 500mgs/week of sust. until i get used to the test, then add the other 250mg.


6ft.
195lbs.
good diet
bf, i don't know
work out every body part twice a week plus abs, and 30min. of cardio per day
goal is to gain muscle, keep the muscle and have a lean look

also wondering if i did this, what type of anti's i would need. clomid, nolv. and at what amount.

[arnold jr]

Adding winny would be fine, and would provide a nice finishing touch to your cycle. Use it last 5 or 6 wks at 50mg eod.

Arnold jr.

[allside02]

do i need any clomid or anything for either of these cycles

[tatteredxangelx]

clomid for 3 weeks after ... first week 100mg a day, next 75, last 50

[allside02]

just the clomid for weeks 9, 10 and 11 or for the first cycle on the post 11,12,and 13?

[bod1ggity]

Dont use clomid, use nolvadex, nolvadex is provin time and time agin scientifically to be more effective than clomid... use a stack of Nolvadex and Tribulus, if you want to you can use HCG 500iu eod for 3 weeks...
If you want just use the PCT that alin provides in his kit, with clomid/nolvadex... I would still toss in tribulus.

Do not do just clomid!

Also you dont need to go up to 750mg a week, this is your first cycle all you will be doing is wasteing money, keep it at 500mg a week... it will not hender your gains.

[tatteredxangelx]

1) u dunt need HCG for this little test .2) tribulus wont do SHIT for muscles, just makes you horny 3) nolvadex is good to stack with clomid, but IMO clomid is necessary.

[bod1ggity]

1) u dunt need HCG for this little test .2) tribulus wont do SHIT for muscles, just makes you horny 3) nolvadex is good to stack with clomid, but IMO clomid is necessary.
Tribulus will help production of natural testosterone and that is what were trying to do correct? It just helps you prevent crashing, if you do clomid I highly recommend stacking it with nolv... straight clomid is no fun, unless you like feeling like you need to wear mascera and paint your nails.

[tatteredxangelx]

I got kicked out of a resturant today because some emo kid came in and i just started cracking up in front of him ... dude had on mascara, painted nails and a pair of female jeans ... i couldnt help myself ... :) :) :) thx for the laugh bro but tribiulus wont help as much as clo/nolva, not worth the price IMO

[Alin]

ok. i am a newbie, i had a post about a week ago and decided on this cycle that is offered on the website.

Newbee cycle #2:

Week 1 to 10: 500mg of test weekly
wk 13 - 40mg nolva+ 100mg clomid daily
wk 14 - 30mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
wk 15 - 20mg nolva+ 50mg clomid daily
Clenbuterol for PCT

i had a few questions;
can i add winstrol to this from week 7-10, so i can slim down the water retention and lean out some?
and after reading many posts on this board, i was wondering if i really need nolva, clomid, and clen. this is my first cycle, so i just want to make sure.
thanks in advance

You can add the Winstrol if you like. The Nolva, Clomid PCT is a MUST!!!