Incorporating Clen Into a TEST and Dbol Cycle

[lowrider5]

I'm helping a friend set-up his first cycle. Me personally have never done a cycle but am fairly knowledgeable with this. However I'm stuck with how to incorporate clen into his cycle.

Hes running:
Weeks 1-10 Test @ 500mg a week
Weeks 1-4 Dbol @ 20mg to 40mg a week
Weeks 12-16 Nolva @ 40/40/20/20

Wouldn't running clen during cycle potentially lower anabolism and raise catabolism? I'm not totally sure, but any help is appreciated.

[InkFiend33]

first off you are missing clomid in the pct. and why are you not jut sticking with one dose for the dbol?

re the clen usage, i am not sure...

[lowrider5]

I've read Clomid is not necessary before. Not Sure where, maybe another forum. But his choice was to not run Clomid. Ill throw the idea at him and recommend it.

Dbol's dose is up to him and just undecided at this point. I told him to not even run it, but hes stuck to the idea of using Dbol.

Hes dead set on clen. I have no idea why. He was telling me one of his friends at the gym used it and hes huge so clen most be awesome.

Oh, and yes, my friend is a fucking retard. If I were him I'd just run straight test. But hes too into the stacking and blah blah blah.

[jchh]

Clen is anticatabolic but this sounds more like a bulking cycle to me, and clen may keep him tighter but it will also be burining potential muscle calories. IMO save it for the cut.

Dont want to pass judgement on somebody I dont know, but you said he was an idiot and he sure sounds like one. This is why gear users have a bad rep. Do your friend( and all of us) a favor and take the needle away from him, and give him a book.

[lowrider5]

Clen is anticatabolic but this sounds more like a bulking cycle to me, and clen may keep him tighter but it will also be burining potential muscle calories. IMO save it for the cut.

Dont want to pass judgement on somebody I dont know, but you said he was an idiot and he sure sounds like one. This is why gear users have a bad rep. Do your friend( and all of us) a favor and take the needle away from him, and give him a book.

I gave him Anabolics 2006. Doubt he read it. Hes beyond obsessed with steriods. He ran one cycle of Superdrol with 6-oxo DURING cycle as PCT. (? WTF I KNOW). Now hes running superdrol again, and he tells me he has Nolva, doubt it. Im pretty sure hes got gyno, but doesnt care. Its really sad and I've tried countless times to tell him to do it right or not to do it at all. The people who he listens to are the meatheads at the gym who've ran test-e since age 16. These people are not smart and hes so dumb.

I'm just trying to help him. And well giving up on him is my next step. But, I'm trying to help.

[jchh]

I'm just trying to help him. And well giving up on him is my next step. But, I'm trying to help.

Well at least your trying..Your a better man than I, I probably would of told him to push off.
Well to answer your question clen can be anticatabolic but it will also boost metabolism enough to hurt gains.The anticatobolism wont be a drop in the bucket compared to test. I think running clen during this cycle would be a waste of good clen and of good gains, unless of course this is a cut, in which case drop the bol.

[lowrider5]

Well at least your trying..Your a better man than I, I probably would of told him to push off.
Well to answer your question clen can be anticatabolic but it will also boost metabolism enough to hurt gains.The anticatobolism wont be a drop in the bucket compared to test. I think running clen during this cycle would be a waste of good clen and of good gains, unless of course this is a cut, in which case drop the bol.

Hes on a bulk and already put in his order to Alin. He got the clen to round off the limit of how much he can order. So, at least hes ordering from Alin.

[lowrider5]

Thanks for all your help guys. Thumbs up. Good people on this forum.