winny only?

[Alain]

Hello ppl
I've been training naturaly on and off for about 4 years and recently decided to try steroids. For a first cycle i went for oral winny only. I've been taking it for about 4 weeks now. Sence there's no post-cycle aromatisation there's no need for anti-e's but how about my own test levels. Is 25 mg/day of proviron enough as a PCT and how long should i take it.
I know that more than one oral is a no no but how about andriol as it's low toxic. Would it be OK if one would lower the dosage of winny and throw in around 150mg/day of andriol for the rest of the cycle. Also does anyone know where to find andriol at a decent price. BTW I'm around 1.89 m, 103 kg, bodyfat???

P.S.I got a coolest postcard from Eastern Europe. Thank you Alin. You'll be hearing from me soon.

[southern2316]

I an no expert, but if I was you I would throw in clomid for you pct which will help you keep all your gains and raise your test levels. I would take anavar 50mg a day and parabolan 100mg every 3 days. I would for sure get some clomid. You probably would need it to much using winny but it will be a big boost to get your test levels way up.

[Alain]

BTW winny is taken orally.Have also clen for post cycle. I may also get tested in january.
Forgot to say, cant do needles.

[supermax]

IMO,never run a oral only cycle.

Add test. Alway's use test as base for every cycles.

[shanedogg5150]

i asked this same question before and a veteran said that taking winny only will make your body crash maybe you should study a little more ANd read so you dont hurt yourself bro IMO ;)

[jblair]

I've done Winstrol alone, and it was not what I'd hoped. Positives were some strength gains, vascularity(fast), and a gym pump.

I'll defer to the fellas promoting synergy w/test.

Anavar, alone, was pretty darn good.

[Alain]

I'm not after mass. Speed and strength only. I cant afford to put on more then few kilos as I'll be doing some cardio/running tests in few months. What do you mean by "your body will crash".
P.S. why does everyone assumes that by taking steroids ppl want to be HUGE? :D

[southern2316]

I am the exact way. I am on my third cycle and I am 6'1 and 190 pounds which is not that big at all. I just want to gain solid muscle and nothing else. Most women like guys that have some muscle but is very cut. I wouldn't run winny alone either but I would throw some test prop and anavar. If you don't want to gain that much wieght its all about your diet and during some cardio. Ask any of there guys on here that have been around for awhile they will tell you diet is the key.

[mickeymbbc]

Bump Southern:

Diet is the key to all anyway, no matter what you take. It is possible to get good gains off winni, or any other oral for that fact. But you will not retain much at all, even with a good PCT. Priviron is not used for PCT brutha...Clomid, novadex and tribulas are.


-MICK

[life]

I may be wrong, but I don't think I am. If you use proviron for PTC than technically you aren't even doing PTC because the Proviron will still shut you down. It is a hormone itself. It is not going to restim your balls.
Proviron during a cut cycle is awesome. I ran it as the base androgen in a cycle with EQ and oral winni - looked as if I were carved from stone.

[Gregalmighty]

supermax....2316.... all i can say is bump......... couldnt agree more. im glad so many of us see eye to eye. your posts sound like they came out of my own mouth. thanx bros. im sure others appreciate the input also :)