my next cycle

[big49ersfan]

i have decided to run a lean gain, strength cycle for my next cycle it is my second cycle my first was a test e, deca, dbol and winny cycle (ran the test for 10 weeks and the dbol and winny for first and last 4 weeks)

im thinking of going for

week1-8 primo 600mg ew
week1-8 anavar 50mg ed
week1-8 prov 25mg ed

only running the prov for its effect oon getting a hard on and cos of it vascularity effect.

pct will be

day1 60mg of nolva, clen, 3000mg of trib
day2-11 40mg of nolva, clen and trib
day12-21 20mg of nolva and trib

how does this all soun apart from expensive

would like to add 5lb of lean muscle whilst maintaining my bf%.

any suggestions.

[jimmy]

thought of running a short ester like winstrol for 3 weeks after last shot of primo to keep the cycle alive till pct?

[big49ersfan]

could well do but will 8 week sof var and then 3 weeks of winny ruin the old liver.

on that basis run from say week 6-11 (start of pct) sat 100mg eod masteron that is short acting me bf currently is only 12% and may fall slightly on course the masteron may help.

and once i sytart the masteron drop the proV??

any other ideas

[jimmy]

masteron is a choice yes

i wouldnt bother with proviron at all myself

[big49ersfan]

what about then running this

weeks 1-8 600mg pw primo
weeks 1-8 50mg ed anavar
weeks 1-11 100mg eod masteron

pct start week 11

day 1 nolva,60mg, trib 3000mg, clen
day 2-11 nolva 40mg, trib 3000mg, clen
day 12-21 nolva 20, trib 3000mg

or do i really need to add the test in there i know it aint bad but i just want to help reduce the chance of acne everyone sasy that primo and var are ok. i know masteron has an androgenic component but will it cause bad acne.

i just want to avoid test as it caused me acne last itme although im sure the dbols and deca didnt help lol

[supermax]

IMO replace tribulus by clomids.

Better choice.

And me I would run test as a base for any cycle. So add 500mg test week
for 10 weeks.

[life]

Stick with you original choice Proviron. I've used it in a cycle before as the only androgen and it helped alot. Bf% went down while on it - probably due to the increase of an androgen and decrease in estrogen in my body.
Definitely use Proviron 25 mgs, should be ok... I would run 50mgs a day.

[big49ersfan]

i know i should run test but i want to avoid bloat, ance the crash from coming off of it and i betting tha rovery from a anavar/primo will be a lot easier and fewer loses in PCT

one of the reasons why i thinking of using masteron is i know poeple have used it as abase instead of test.

i may add clomid in PCT im thinking about it

[Almighty.Peanut]

i'm coming up on my last 2 weeks of my var cycle. for the price, it's not really worth it. didn't start realling seeing the change until almost 3 weeks in. i'm taking my var with Kre-Alkalyn (creatine). Alkalyn doesn't make my stomach bloat like that powder crap. my PCT is pretty much the same thing as yours though.

i'd rather get one of the newbie cycles next time and just run with that. spend less money overall and have better gains with the eq from what i hear.

[mickeymbbc]

Hmmmm.. I never heard that before? What dossag of winni are you taking? and how long are you running it?


-mick

[mickeymbbc]

what about then running this

weeks 1-8 600mg pw primo
weeks 1-8 50mg ed anavar
weeks 1-11 100mg eod masteron

pct start week 11

day 1 nolva,60mg, trib 3000mg, clen
day 2-11 nolva 40mg, trib 3000mg, clen
day 12-21 nolva 20, trib 3000mg

or do i really need to add the test in there i know it aint bad but i just want to help reduce the chance of acne everyone sasy that primo and var are ok. i know masteron has an androgenic component but will it cause bad acne.

i just want to avoid test as it caused me acne last itme although im sure the dbols and deca didnt help lol


I would keep the proviron in if I were you, that will help battle your libido poblems if it comes about. You can still run the masterone at the end of your cycle though, its a awsume addition.

-mick

PS YOUR TRIBULAS LOOKS FINE, BUT IT WOULD BE BETTER TO RUN THE NOVADEX LIKE THIS 40-30-20, THAT IS A VERY MILD CYCLE...