wanting some input

[emt634]

i started my fist cycle today taking 100mg test prop every three days for three weeks 50 mg winny ed and eq 400mg weekly for 8 weeks at week 5 im going to start hcg 250iu every 3-4 days until a week after cycle is over pct im taking 40mg nolva/100mg clomid for a week then droping the dose 30mg nolva/50mg clomid at week 10 20mg nolva/50clomid then its over is this an appropriate cycle should i be worried about gyno with this cycle

[lola26]

prop has to be injected eod.
winny for 8 weeks is a bit long.
why run test for 3 weeks and the rest for 8.... stupid!
eq should be run a min of 12 weeks.
pct needs work.

you need help.

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[thym43]

prop has to be injected eod.
winny for 8 weeks is a bit long.
why run test for 3 weeks and the rest for 8.... stupid!
eq should be run a min of 12 weeks.
pct needs work.

you need help.

www.steroidsprofiles.com

Bump this!! Your mixing up longs and shorts and not to your benefit. Dropping Test after 3 weeks is just silly. you need to study up a whole lot more on what your doing. I'm surprised Lola didn't bash you a bit more, he must be in a good mood. I'm not; your cycle is shit and judging from this you don't know shit. As Lunny would say "DO WORK!!"

[drob29]

i started my fist cycle today taking 100mg test prop every three days for three weeks 50 mg winny ed and eq 400mg weekly for 8 weeks at week 5 im going to start hcg 250iu every 3-4 days until a week after cycle is over pct im taking 40mg nolva/100mg clomid for a week then droping the dose 30mg nolva/50mg clomid at week 10 20mg nolva/50clomid then its over is this an appropriate cycle should i be worried about gyno with this cycle

That cycle is a mess...


you need help.
www.steroidsprofiles.com

you got that right...

Hey EMT how much test and EQ do you have right now?

I'm surprised Lola didn't bash you a bit more, he must be in a good mood.

lol..I almost said the same thing

[emt634]

thanks for the input ive got the speed and stength cycle from the shop and was fowling the dosage regimen that it has with it i added the prop figuring it would help boost my test levels at first kinda give me a jump start all the research ive done is from bodybuilding.coms superrsite aas profiles by big cat suggstions are welcome i have 2 10ml bottles of eq and can get all the prop i need the winny i have is 50mg tabs

[Martek]

Lunny says "DO WORK SON!!!"

[lola26]

you posted you bf was like 25% in another thread. you need to work on this first!

[thym43]

Lunny says "DO WORK SON!!!"

Is that some of the great, on topic input you continually claim to add to all threads you chime in on?? :D

[emt634]

bf was 23 when i stated back working out in jan im 16% as of last tuesday

[Martek]

bf was 23 when i stated back working out in jan im 16% as of last tuesday

23 back in Jan 08?? Or January 2007?

[emt634]

jan 1 08 bf was 23% im 6"4 230 i started cardio the last week of dec 07 i weigh 234 now and have lost two pant sizes

[emt634]

my goal is to stay around 230 and be less than 10% bf by apr 11 08

[Martek]

my goal is to stay around 230 and be less than 10% bf by apr 11 08

thats quite a goal..

[emt634]

im on my way go to the gym twice a day 6 days a week run 3mi in the morn and lift in the eves do you got any suggestions on the cycle i posted

[lunny]

Bro listen to lola and thym!!!! you need to re think your cycle, not to mention understand what your putting in you!!!! I would read a bit more tell things start to make more sense to you...

[Martek]

to be honest, my opinion wouldn't matter, my suggestions will not help... as the below said is basically the best info you can get. Aside from being called stupid, idiot, a moron, etc, just listen to this part. Winny 8 weeks, that is long... and why run the test for only 3 weeks and the rest for 8, makes no sense. EQ should be ran a min of 12 weeks as well. these are long and short estered stacked cycles and this is just not going to do much good. If you want to get down to level, drop the EQ, take the test P 100mg ED injections, and winny, maybe run that about 5-6 weeks.. and see where you are from there. From what i've seen on this board.. if you are trying to get some BF% down, EQ is the least thing you need, the winny is a good choice though.


prop has to be injected eod.
winny for 8 weeks is a bit long.
why run test for 3 weeks and the rest for 8.... stupid!
eq should be run a min of 12 weeks.
pct needs work.

you need help.

www.steroidsprofiles.com

Bump this!! Your mixing up longs and shorts and not to your benefit. Dropping Test after 3 weeks is just silly. you need to study up a whole lot more on what your doing. I'm surprised Lola didn't bash you a bit more, he must be in a good mood. I'm not; your cycle is shit and judging from this you don't know shit. As Lunny would say "DO WORK!!"

[emt634]

well thanks for the the help back to the drawing board wonder why the shop sells cycles ex the speed /strength cycle if they dont work

[emt634]

or make sense

[Martek]

well thanks for the the help back to the drawing board wonder why the shop sells cycles ex the speed /strength cycle if they dont work

What is your major GOAL? Are you trying to cut the BF% DOWN? Or what is the purpose of this goal, please tell us.

[emt634]

i entered a fitness challenge started jan 1 ends apr 11 its a 4 man team the team that losses the most bf and gains the most muscle mass wins

[Martek]

well thanks for the the help back to the drawing board wonder why the shop sells cycles ex the speed /strength cycle if they dont work

Interesting to note, I read the cycle and I dont see how it works, it cuts EQ out at week 8... Interesting

[Martek]

Sounds like a rushed cycle to me, Def give this cycle a lot of thought bro, you dont want to put shit in your body unless you know what you're doing. cutting up and gaining size. Thats a scary one, but not impossible.

[emt634]

what ive read of and understand of eq is that it is intended as a cuting agent but you can gain size from it due to the increased appetite is that not correct

[lola26]

its not the compound that determines whether you bulk or cut... its you diet!!!!

[Martek]

its not the compound that determines whether you bulk or cut... its you diet!!!!

I was staying outta this one cause Lola pretty much had this covered in the start. bump this

[thym43]

its not the compound that determines whether you bulk or cut... its you diet!!!!

BIG BUMP!!!:D

[Martek]

I want to say one quick thing. You said in Jan your BF was like 23%? and now its WHAT? 16%? Thats a difference of 7%! Do you realize that what you are doing will get you to where you want to be? I'd hold off on the drugs another two months and see where you are at bro.

[Tboy]

i entered a fitness challenge started jan 1 ends apr 11 its a 4 man team the team that losses the most bf and gains the most muscle mass wins

funny thing is if there is a prize involved money/new car or what ever you show up to the weigh in april 11 all sowlen up and lost 13% BF in 12 or 14 wks i bet they test you!!

[fr8lnr01]

to be honest, my opinion wouldn't matter, my suggestions will not help... as the below said is basically the best info you can get. Aside from being called stupid, idiot, a moron, etc, just listen to this part. Winny 8 weeks, that is long... and why run the test for only 3 weeks and the rest for 8, makes no sense. EQ should be ran a min of 12 weeks as well. these are long and short estered stacked cycles and this is just not going to do much good. If you want to get down to level, drop the EQ, take the test P 100mg ED injections, and winny, maybe run that about 5-6 weeks.. and see where you are from there. From what i've seen on this board.. if you are trying to get some BF% down, EQ is the least thing you need, the winny is a good choice though.

i started my fist cycle today taking 100mg test prop every three days for three weeks 50 mg winny ed and eq 400mg weekly for 8 weeks at week 5 im going to start hcg 250iu every 3-4 days until a week after cycle is over pct im taking 40mg nolva/100mg clomid for a week then droping the dose 30mg nolva/50mg clomid at week 10 20mg nolva/50clomid then its over is this an appropriate cycle should i be worried about gyno with this cycle

This is funny.

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1-8 Winstrol 50 mg Every Day
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Week 8 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
Week 9 30mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every Day
Week 10 20mg Nolva/50mg Clomid Every DayTHIS KIT CONTAINS:

1 x NOLVADEX 10mg by HEXAL (Germany) (Size: 50 tabs)
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2 x HCG (Pregnyl) 5000 IU, 1 amp by Organon
2 x EQUIPOISE (BOLDENONA-E) 10ml vial by Balkan Pharmaceuticals (Size: 1 vial)There is absolutely nothing wrong with this cycle. Continue just as you were instructed. There are plenty of guys on this board that will give you a shit load of misinformation. It is dificult to decypher who does and does not understand how a number of these cycles or steroids work or their purpose. The testosterone propionate was a good addition; it will help with lean gains and not create any bloat.

The reason there is no long chain test ester in this cycle is to avoid extreme weight gain. The purpose for the winstrol to increase your strength through the properties of the winny being extremely anabolic and not androgenic. The equipoise is a good addition because it will add strength and lean mass gains as opposed to the extreme gains that would be accomplished with Nandrolone Deconate. The HCG is present to maintain you endogenous test production. The cycle is so short to curb the chances of testicular shut-down.

The most important part is the equipoise. This is a speed cycle. This is not a bulking or cutting cycle. The objective is speed. The increase in Red Blood Cell count is to increases stamina and increase respiratory efficacy.

You are a fucking idiot. You guys are using this board as your own personal IM panel and some of you offer advice that is less valuable than the person questioning his own actions. I am sure we all have IM programs on our computers, so please be gone with this dumb bullshit. This is not directed to Thyme, Drob, or Lola.

You are doing fine EMT. I would have gone with injectable winstrol as opposed to pills, but that is what you have. Do the injections every other day with the testosterone. Finish the cycle as instructed. You may have just chosen the wrong cycle. The cycle you chose is for a running athlete.

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[LeanMass17]

I was just about to say something similar....I have ran a cycle like this involving Test Prop, EQ and winny and it was the best cycle I've run so far....Who says you can't combine long and short esters and why????

[thym43]

I can only speak for myself in this case. Apparently i made a false assumption as to the goals of the individual. Fr8lnr alluded to that toward the end of his comment. I assumed this cycle was for cutting, as fr8lnr pointed out and it says right on the site it is a speed/strength cycle. Intresting choice for a specific goal of cutting but, compounds not withstanding, an obtainable goal . Obviously I am not not familar with all of the goals which can be obtained through AAS, I bodybuild and my goals are fairly specific and perhaps narrow minded. When someone is looking to cut, diet being first, there are only a couple of compounds i have experience with or would use to obtain that goal. I still would not recommend the use of a C-17 laden compound for too long, but perhaps a better approach would be to ask better questions and get better info towards one's ends. i think for the most part no one on this site is trying to put out poor info. We each have the goals and methods which we have used to obtain those goals and, perhaps, become a bit short sighted as to other methods, No offense intended.

[emt634]

im going ahead with this cycle im going get enough prop for 8 weeks also i will let you all no how i come out thanks again for the input the reason i choose this cycle is for the strength im am doing good cutting down the bf but im weak flat benching just 205 4-5 times on a good day

[lola26]

if you can only get 205 at your body weight you really should gain some strength natty to avoid joint/tendon/ligament type problems. i gave this advise to another member, he didnt listen, then he got hurt...