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larry
02-03-2008, 02:03 PM
So Gentleman what do you think of this!

Myostatin drugs possibly four times better muscle growth than steroids without the harmful side effects

The drug ACE-031 has been found to reproduce the enhanced muscle growth effect caused by certain genes. Genetic manipulation in mice can cause 4 times the muscle growth. The drug mimics the effect of gene therapy and appears to be a super-steroid without the harmful effects and is using a different process than steroids.

The dog in the photo is supermuscular because of naturally occurring mutations that silence both versions of the myostatin gene. Called bully whippets, these dogs are rarely champion racers. However, animals with one mutated and one normal version of the gene are more muscular than typical animals and are among the breed’s fastest racers. Credit: Stuart Isett, Polaris

Mice given the new drug show a 30 to 60 percent increase in muscle mass, and mice with a version of muscular dystrophy show increased grip strength, a standard measure of rodent strength. Preliminary results from primate studies show that the animals on the drug bulk up at similar rates to those seen in rodents. "Before I became involved with Acceleron, if someone had told me you could increase muscle mass by up to 60 percent in a month, I never would have believed it," says CEO John Knopf.

While it's not yet clear if similar rates will be seen in humans, high doses of anabolic steroids, which carry serious side effects, increase muscle mass by a maximum of 15 to 20 percent. And because myostatin is found only in muscle, knocking it out does not appear to have the adverse effects of broader-acting steroids.

Says Evans, "I think these drugs, perhaps used in combo with exercise, might have great potential in reversing the trend toward increasing obesity and decreasing muscle mass."


In the previous studies on the genes being set, the aging of muscles was actually stopped. This did not increase life expectancy but there would be less of the problems of someone old suffering serious reduction in muscle.
Results of experiments with adult mice who received injections of the gene into their muscles. The inoculations prevented muscle deterioration in mice as old as 2 years -- 80 years in human terms. The shots even regenerated muscle, restoring some of the lost strength and size.

Old mice regained 27 percent of muscle lost to age; younger mice experienced a 15 percent increase, Sweeney reported. "You build muscle mass and strength even without exercise," he says.


Scattered throughout the mammalian menagerie are a few supermuscular freaks: double-muscled cows more ripped than any bodybuilder; racing dogs too burly to run; sheep praised for their massively muscled buttocks; and even one small German boy, born in 2000 with muscles twice the size of those of a normal newborn. All these Herculean creatures share one thing: naturally occurring mutations in a gene that produces myostatin, a protein that blocks growth of skeletal muscle. Disable that gene, and voila--spectacular muscle growth results.

Over the past few years, pharmaceutical companies have been racing to develop ways to mimic myostatin gene mutations in the hope of treating everything from the muscle loss that accompanies muscular dystrophy, cancer, and aging to obesity and other metabolic disorders. Pharmaceutical giants Wyeth and Amgen are expected to release clinical-trial results of myostatin inhibitors for muscle-wasting diseases within the next few months. A smaller company, Acceleron Pharma, based in Cambridge, MA, says that its more broadly acting drug could bring more brawn than can drugs targeting myostatin alone.

"There's been a huge amount of interest for human therapeutics," says Se-Jin Lee, a biologist at John's Hopkins University, in Baltimore. "If you could increase or maintain muscle strength as people age, you could have a tremendous impact on health and well-being."

Lee discovered more than a decade ago that mice lacking myostatin grew muscles twice the size of those of their normal counterparts. But because mice have levels of myostatin 50 to 80 times that of humans, some scientists have doubted how well the results will translate to humans. New findings published in August in the journal PLoS ONE suggest that other molecules are also at work in muscle. Lee found that he could double the extra growth in mice lacking myostatin--effectively quadrupling muscle mass--by turning up levels of another protein. "That means there must be other regulators that have at least as important a function as myostatin in blocking muscle growth," says Lee.

Acceleron's approach attempts to take advantage of that. Rather than designing an antibody to myostatin itself, as is being tested in the Wyeth trials, scientists at Acceleron fused a portion of the receptor molecule that usually binds to myostatin with a tag that allows the drug ACE-031 to roam freely throughout the body so that it can sop up myostatin before it activates the signal to stop muscle growth. Animal studies show that this approach boosts muscle growth more effectively than does merely eliminating myostatin, suggesting that the fusion molecule also binds to other agents that impact muscle development.

Normal mice given the drug show a 30 to 60 percent increase in muscle mass, and mice with a version of muscular dystrophy show increased grip strength, a standard measure of rodent strength. Preliminary results from primate studies show that the animals on the drug bulk up at similar rates to those seen in rodents. "Before I became involved with Acceleron, if someone had told me you could increase muscle mass by up to 60 percent in a month, I never would have believed it," says CEO John Knopf.



While it's not yet clear if similar rates will be seen in humans, high doses of anabolic steroids, which carry serious side effects, increase muscle mass by a maximum of 15 to 20 percent. And because myostatin is found only in muscle, knocking it out does not appear to have the adverse effects of broader-acting steroids.

Acceleron plans to begin trials of its drug for muscular dystrophy, a genetic disorder of progressive muscle loss that usually kills sufferers before they reach age 30, in early 2008. Trials for cancer and ALS will follow.

Acceleron's Big Pharma competitors are farther along. In 2005, Wyeth, headquartered in Madison, NJ, began a clinical trial of an antibody to myostatin that binds to it and blocks its activity, as a treatment for two forms of muscular dystrophy. Results were expected to be released late last year, but the company declined to comment on the current status. Amgen, headquartered in Thousand Oaks, CA, is analyzing results from a recently completed safety trial of its own myostatin inhibitor. The company is also testing a second inhibitor as a countermeasure to space-flight-induced muscle changes. Mice aboard the Space Shuttle Endeavor in August were given Amgen's experimental drug to determine if it could slow muscle loss in microgravity.

While initial clinical trials are focused on relatively rare conditions such as muscular dystrophy, safe muscle-building drugs have a broad potential market. "There is no effective agent to prevent the accelerated loss of muscle associated with disease, infection, or illness, such as cancer, heart failure, and kidney disease and dialysis," says William Evans, director of the Nutrition, Metabolism, and Exercise Laboratory at the University of Arkansas for Medical Sciences. Muscle loss is linked to increased mortality in these patients, as well as to an individual's level of disability resulting from normal aging. "As treatments of disease like cancer and heart failure become more effective, the issue becomes more prominent," says Evans. For example, treating cancer patients with a muscle-building drug may allow oncologists to administer extra rounds of chemotherapy.

In addition to treating muscle wasting, such drugs might prove effective in treating metabolic disorders, such as insulin resistance, which is linked to obesity and diabetes. Previous research has shown that diet-induced obese mice given Acceleron's drug showed an increase in lean muscle mass and reduced fasting glucose and insulin levels. Says Evans, "I think these drugs, perhaps used in combo with exercise, might have great potential in reversing the trend toward increasing obesity and decreasing muscle mass."

Click it out on this link:
http://nextbigfuture.com/2007/10/myostatin-drugs-possibly-four-times.html

Also Jelly Fish Posted this one , have a look http://www.who-sucks.com/people/mons...iency-pictures



Very Trippy, All the Best.

steak
02-03-2008, 02:17 PM
... read the first sentence about 4 times better growth... no side? then it should be legal to sell....imagine if the rest of population took that drug.. would have catastrophic effects on the society

lunny
02-03-2008, 02:17 PM
Sounds good i will take a million dollars worth!!!

lola26
02-03-2008, 04:48 PM
http://www.sixwise.com/newsletters/07/02/28/myostatin_blockers_the_potential_benefits_and_risk s_of_these_forthcoming_super-muscle_drugs.htm

lola26
02-03-2008, 04:53 PM
http://www.bodybuilding.com/store/myostat.html?CJAID=10409943&CJPID=2347475


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lola26
02-03-2008, 04:57 PM
http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showthread.php?t=720382

Machola
02-03-2008, 05:21 PM
lola i've seen those supps before. i heard they don't work. its all hype. that drug is the real deal though. someone posted a study on it a few months ago. i'd guinea pig it in a second:D

lola26
02-03-2008, 05:29 PM
i just read a ton about it.. i dont think you will ever see a real product available. is, its years and years away.

jjgonz
02-04-2008, 12:47 AM
where do i sign :D:D:D

Martek
02-04-2008, 01:30 AM
im about for that, but like Lola said, its years and years away, which I believe, but we all will be alive when it happens.. well most of us

JellyFish
02-04-2008, 12:28 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stamulumab

JellyFish
02-04-2008, 12:35 PM
http://www.who-sucks.com/people/monstrous-myostatin-misfortunes-a-collection-of-myostatin-deficiency-pictures

mrvtwin80
02-04-2008, 01:29 PM
Very very interesting! I also think it will be way down the road if it ever happens. They want us weak and sick not strong and healthy so the pharmaceutical companies can prosper.

lunny
02-04-2008, 01:39 PM
Well we all know the US will be gay and make it an illegal substance!!!!

JellyFish
02-04-2008, 08:02 PM
CP "Steroids are illegal (unless I missed something!). Since myostatin blockers are not anabolic steroids, they would have to be made illegal via congress updating the Anabolic Steroids Act."

Martek
02-04-2008, 08:19 PM
Fuck America, why cant they leave us alone??? Anyone?

Machola
02-04-2008, 09:40 PM
CP "Steroids are illegal (unless I missed something!). Since myostatin blockers are not anabolic steroids, they would have to be made illegal via congress updating the Anabolic Steroids Act."

that's very easily done. hgh and hcg both are subject to the same legal status as aas:cool:

JellyFish
02-04-2008, 10:05 PM
I DONT KNOW IF ITS BS OR NOT!!

"BALCO Laboratories has been testing and monitoring Flex on a routine basis during the last year. We have performed tests including blood chemistry (SMAC), complete blood count (CBC), PSA, anabolic hormone levels, genotyping as well as comprehensive testing for nutritional elements. Flex's test results have been compared to twenty-four other professional bodybuilders and overall he has one of the healthiest profiles. Basically, Flex is in excellent health and has demonstrated the discipline necessary to maintain a peak level of conditioning.

Flex was a participant in a study we recently conducted in collaboration with the Department of Human Genetics at the University of Pittsburgh involving 62 men who made unusually large gains in muscle mass in response to strength training (extreme responders). Flex was one of only nine extreme responders that had the very rare "myostatin mutation." Myostatin is the gene that "limits muscle growth." Specifically, Flex had the rarest form of myostatin mutation at the "exon 2" position on the gene. This simply means Flex has a much larger number of muscle fibers compared to the other subjects or the normal population. We believe that these are the very first myostatin mutation findings in humans and the results of this landmark study have already been submitted for publication. Flex was also found to have a very unusual type of the IGF-1 gene. In fact, Flex was the only participant in the study that did not have a "match." All of the other extreme responders had at least three other subjects with a matching IGF-1 gene. Based upon Flex's very unique genetic profile, we plan to expeditiously publish a scientific paper that reveals his complete genotype in specific detail. The publication of his remarkable genetic data should generate an enormous amount of media exposure."

jjgonz
02-04-2008, 11:49 PM
why cant a be genetic mutant that does nothing but grow muscle :(:(:(:(

lunny
02-05-2008, 12:42 AM
why cant a be genetic mutant that does nothing but grow muscle :(:(:(:(

Fuckin meatwad i love it!!!!! lol.... i know wouldnt that be sweet yeah im huge and never work out!!!

jjgonz
02-05-2008, 12:47 AM
yeah right imagine...damn bro your fucking huge how often you lift....well i umm lift myself outa bed i uh walk around and get out the chair pick up the remote..oh these forearms alin board :D:D:D

lunny
02-05-2008, 12:49 AM
yeah right imagine...damn bro your fucking huge how often you lift....well i umm lift myself outa bed i uh walk around and get out the chair pick up the remote..oh these forearms alin board :D:D:D

Yeah exactly the kind of thing im lookin for!!!

gambino
02-05-2008, 10:19 PM
sounds sick! to say the least

carteblanche83
02-09-2008, 09:07 PM
http://www.who-sucks.com/people/monstrous-myostatin-misfortunes-a-collection-of-myostatin-deficiency-pictures


http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://bp2.blogger.com/_mmBw3uzPnJI/Ro7ESN2K3sI/AAAAAAAAGIE/ODXCMnPJnro/s400/incredible_hulks_002.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.taringa.net/posts/imagenes/952121/hipertrofia-muscular.html&h=309&w=400&sz=31&hl=en&start=109&um=1&tbnid=kL_uGM4w1_5maM:&tbnh=96&tbnw=124&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmyostatin%26start%3D108%26ndsp%3D18%2 6um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26sa%3DN

crazy pictures:eek:

Machola
02-09-2008, 09:21 PM
god damn! that second site is insane! i've never seen people built like that. photoshopped??? i can't tell

flart
02-09-2008, 10:38 PM
:eek::eek::eek:OMG:eek::eek::eek:

Those pics can't be real!! I mean....that's beyond big....they look deformed!!

carteblanche83
02-10-2008, 09:45 PM
I dont know man, I would think someone like that would be more popular. I have never seen anything like that on the news, interviews, etc. It's almost like some xmen characters if you think about it. Kids standing 2 days after birth and that german boy is completely like an evolved human, makes you wonder haha. I cant wait to see what happens with this stuff.