first cycle, been debating myself

[fasttwitch]

I've looked at stack after stack and think I'll keep it simple with test 500/week, by itself. I'm leaning towards Nolva for PCT..mostly from reading Big Cat's clomid/nolva artical. Though it seems like many well read and experienced BBs have their likes and preferences, and both products should achieve close to the same goal. But I'm still not sure when ( in a 8 week test cycle ) to start running Nolva ( I've heard different opinions) and at what dose.

Also, I here some others of the benifits of one test over another. But I'm not sure whether to go cy or prop..

I'm also trying to decide if I need an antiestrogen during cycle. I'll definitely keep one on hand but I don't know if I should "just" use it, or see if estrogen-related sides kick up to use it.

My stats and info:

34 yrs
6'3
245 lbs
Approx. 17 % BF
Lifting for 4 years hard.
Diet: Approx. 40% carbs, 40 % protein and 20 % fat. Lots of fish, eggs, nuts, chicken and green vegies with whole grain breads.

Any suggestions and help is welcome. Thanks.

[Tyrone]

I've looked at stack after stack and think I'll keep it simple with test 500/week, by itself. I'm leaning towards Nolva for PCT..mostly from reading Big Cat's clomid/nolva artical. Though it seems like many well read and experienced BBs have their likes and preferences, and both products should achieve close to the same goal. But I'm still not sure when ( in a 8 week test cycle ) to start running Nolva ( I've heard different opinions) and at what dose.

Also, I here some others of the benifits of one test over another. But I'm not sure whether to go cy or prop..

I'm also trying to decide if I need an antiestrogen during cycle. I'll definitely keep one on hand but I don't know if I should "just" use it, or see if estrogen-related sides kick up to use it.

My stats and info:

34 yrs
6'3
245 lbs
Approx. 17 % BF
Lifting for 4 years hard.
Diet: Approx. 40% carbs, 40 % protein and 20 % fat. Lots of fish, eggs, nuts, chicken and green vegies with whole grain breads.

Any suggestions and help is welcome. Thanks.
I can tell you that you still need more research cause prop and cyp are different + isn't Nolva part of antiestrogen. You should include you stats here bro. You are just whatever someone imagines you to be, tall, small, gay, or straight stud. More info will get you more help from the more informed.

[fasttwitch]

I can tell you that you still need more research cause prop and cyp are different + isn't Nolva part of antiestrogen. You should include you stats here bro. You are just whatever someone imagines you to be, tall, small, gay, or straight stud. More info will get you more help from the more informed.

Thanks for the fast response Tyrone.

I understand Nolva isn't exactly anti-estrogen but attaches itself to the receptors, keeping estrogen from binding there. Unlike Arimex for instance. But for PCT - getting the boys fired back up, Nolva should work.

I'll research the test question, I know it's an involved subject. I was mostly curious what test others preferred and why. I've read a couple of posts on other boards but haven't heard a lot of useful info on specifics. And google, Lol, had more anti-gear propaganda than info, or info only a PHD could understand.

I wasn't sure how much info to post, so I checked another post which the poster had posted their age, weight, height, BF, length of training and some diet info. Is there additional info I can give to help?

I much appreciate your help! Thanks.

[jstforme]

when to start pct depends exactly on the half life of your steroid, cyp and prop are going to have differnt times to start pct. as far as an anti during your cycle, its aways good to have enough incase something should arise, with 500mg i dont think you will need anything untill pct. i agree that 500 test is a good beginner cycle. that was my first.

[fasttwitch]

when to start pct depends exactly on the half life of your steroid, cyp and prop are going to have differnt times to start pct. as far as an anti during your cycle, its aways good to have enough incase something should arise, with 500mg i dont think you will need anything untill pct. i agree that 500 test is a good beginner cycle. that was my first.

Thanks jstforme.

Do you mind if I ask what your gains were like on this test only cycle? And did you keep a good % of the gains? And have you since stacked it and what were those gains?

Lol. Not trying to be annoying, just curious.

Thanks Bro!