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[rkulas]

would 20mg of nova be enough to help prevent gyno (seem to get it ever time)
cycle consist of test-e 500ml weekly
deca 400 ml weekly
will increase test-e to 700ml weekly
deca 500ml weekly

[flatblack]

would 20mg of nova be enough to help prevent gyno (seem to get it ever time)
cycle consist of test-e 500ml weekly
deca 400 ml weekly
will increase test-e to 700ml weekly
deca 500ml weekly

do u know what compound u were running when the gyno started to develop?

[newguy666]

is a SERM good for progesterone related gyno?

deca is a progesterone derivitave, no?

[rkulas]

sustanon seem to be the worst
tren also seem to hit me

[flatblack]

is a SERM good for progesterone related gyno?

deca is a progesterone derivitave, no?

good for what?..preventing gyno or reducing existing gyno?

[rkulas]

what do you recommend for preventing gyno? and reducing gyno?I am not sking this to be a smart ass i just what to learn from the experience guys.

[tdizzle28]

what do you recommend for preventing gyno? and reducing gyno?I am not sking this to be a smart ass i just what to learn from the experience guys.

Letro and armidex both are good AIs to run during cycle, will prevent gyno and even get rid of it if you have it...if the gyno is from deca or tren, then it is a whole different ballgame...like flat asked, do you know what compound caused the gyno?

[flatblack]

what do you recommend for preventing gyno? and reducing gyno?I am not sking this to be a smart ass i just what to learn from the experience guys.

.25mgs daily of adex thru cycle should be sufficient to prevent most estrogen related gyno............

[rkulas]

i have seem to get it both from deca and tren
running test-e and deca now with 20 mg of nova daily

[tdizzle28]

Bump the search button on bromo and caber for gyno related to deca(progesterone) and tren(progestagenic) gyno

[flatblack]

i have seem to get it both from deca and tren
running test-e and deca now with 20 mg of nova daily 10 mgs of nolva while running test should be more than enough to combat estrogen related gyno...i would inject 300-400mgs daily of a water based b6...the b6 is natural with no sides and fights prolactin related gyno...tho if yer as susceptable to gyno as u say, i would have cabergoline on hand and run that along with the b6 at .5mgs e4th day, working yer way up to 1mg until gyno is gone then tapering back down.........

[rkulas]

Thanks for all the help guys

[lostwars]

i would go with arimidex at .25 ed of cycle and 25mg of proviron
20mg of nolva is alot ed...there has been the argument that to much nolva will affect the gains on cycle
how much water this holds im not sure
maybe sumone else can confirm or dispell this as fact

[rkulas]

your advice is well appreciated thanks for taking the time to help out,i did a search for a water base b6 without much luck can you offer a site were i can get this

[flatblack]

your advice is well appreciated thanks for taking the time to help out,i did a search for a water base b6 without much luck can you offer a site were i can get this really u punched it in google n couldnt find anything?....its legal so its gotta be on some vitamin site...i dont have 1 handy tho but will do a search in a little bit if u still cant locate it.....

[flatblack]

http://www.zalmo.com/vitamins.html?gclid=CKut_N-AnZECFQspFQod8k-ROA....sorry it didnt come up as a clickable link, but heres one..20 bucks for 10, 5mil bottles...not bad

[rkulas]

what i was finding was more info about b6 rather then were to get it i will try again and look hard this time i do have a doctor app. wenesday and i was going to ask for a scrip for b6 he has gave me one for b12 so maybe he will give me one for b6
thanks for your help flatblack

[rkulas]

sorry flatblack did not see your reply before i posted thanks for the link just checked it out looks great
thanks for taking the time to help me out

[flatblack]

sorry flatblack did not see your reply before i posted thanks for the link just checked it out looks great
thanks for taking the time to help me out
no prob...1 mil of that particular product is 250mgs...so 1mil daily should be perfect for keeping prolactin under control.....good luck

[rkulas]

flatblack would you recommend intramuscular injection or sub-cutaneous seeing i would be do injects every day i was thinking sub-cutaneous injections what do you think sorry for all the question but your knowledge is awesome and great help to people trying to learn
thanks

[flatblack]

its alotta fluid bro...so for that reason intramuscular is the way to go...sub q is released more slowly in the blood stream which is a good thing when it comes to vitamin b's which are expelled from the body fairly quickly...but with that amount of fluid, definately intramuscular........

[rkulas]

thanks for the education flatblack much appreciated

[lunny]

its alotta fluid bro...so for that reason intramuscular is the way to go...sub q is released more slowly in the blood stream which is a good thing when it comes to vitamin b's which are expelled from the body fairly quickly...but with that amount of fluid, definately intramuscular........

Your so smart..:):):)

[flatblack]

Your so smart..:):):)

stop kissing my ass, lunny........but wait a sec, it does feel good tho:D:D:D

[jjgonz]

stop kissing my ass, lunny........but wait a sec, it does feel good tho:D:D:D

i gotta admit you guys never let me down i dont have to work out my abs cuz i laugh so fucking much on this board lol:cool:

[InkFiend33]

so i have a little pea sized lump in the lower outter region of the edge ofmy nipple on both sides... one side is a little bigger than the other.... I am on wk 4 of dbol 40mg ed and sust 1000mg/wk... i have started nolva at 40 mg for the past three days and it is not getting better... any suggestions???? my dr is ok with my choice to get big... do you think i should just go see her?

thank you

[flatblack]

so i have a little pea sized lump in the lower outter region of the edge ofmy nipple on both sides... one side is a little bigger than the other.... I am on wk 4 of dbol 40mg ed and sust 1000mg/wk... i have started nolva at 40 mg for the past three days and it is not getting better... any suggestions???? my dr is ok with my choice to get big... do you think i should just go see her?

thank you
nolva wont reverse the lumps if in fact theyre gyno resulting from yer cycle...yer gonna have to start running letro as soon as possible...are u familiar with the protocals for running letro, dosing schedule, etc?...
also, the temptation to jack up yer nolva above 40mgs is prolly not a good idear either..........

[InkFiend33]

nolva wont reverse the lumps if in fact theyre gyno resulting from yer cycle...yer gonna have to start running letro as soon as possible...are u familiar with the protocals for running letro, dosing schedule, etc?...
also, the temptation to jack up yer nolva above 40mgs is prolly not a good idear either..........

can you please give me a letro lesson....:D

[InkFiend33]

looks like the research lab i was gonna get my letro from is sold out..... will Arimidex work as well?? thanks flatblack

[flatblack]

looks like the research lab i was gonna get my letro from is sold out..... will Arimidex work as well?? thanks flatblack

no dude, arimidex wont work as well...a-dex works well for inhibiting test aromatisation while on cycle and b4 gyno symptoms appear, but in my opinion letro is the only compound thats gonna reduce/eliminate yer gyno...i would continue with 40mgs of nolva as yer doing, and if u have it jump on some adex at .5mgs daily...that should keep it under control somewhat until yer able to start running letro in order to get rid of it...run the letro as follows:
1st day .5mgs
2nd day 1.0 mgs
3rd day 1.5mgs
4th day 2.0 mgs
5th day 2.5mgs
run it at this dose until all gyno is gone and 7 days after...after that taper the dose back down the same as u ramped it up...make sure u overlap yer nolva (1) day at the beginning and end of running the letro...start running nolva at 40mgs daily to combat estrogen re-bound after stopping the letro, then run yer pct as usual...yer gains will be limited in this cycle unfortunately cuz yer pretty much knocking down all yer bodys estrogen and some estrogen is needed for growth...also, yer sex drive will prolly go in the shitter too, but whats better, being being sexless for awhile with no tits or a horny dude with bangin' breastuses:D...good luck bro, get back n let us know how it went..............

[InkFiend33]

thank you sir!!! just ordered some from alin... will do adex and nolva to keep the flood gates up till it gets here.... thank god he is fast....I hope my gains are not too hindered....:mad: i have a show in dec i am trying to bulk for