ANAVAR CYCLE... For myself and my wife?

[MacOtac]

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[tdizzle28]

why can't you inject?...elaborate. Var is the best oral to run alone...I would try 10 weeks at 40-50mgs, then run a mild pct afterwards, var doesn't shut you down too hard, so nolva at about 20mgs for 3 weeks should be good for a pctyour wife should be good at 10mg...still though, I would take an injectable over an oral any day of the week

[flatblack]

I am looking to start a 6 week Anavar cycle at 50mg ED. I will take Creatine while taking. Just looking to cut up and harden my muscles. Am looking to add to it due to the circumstance that I wont be able to inject anything. :( Is there anything I could add to it pill form to complement? My question is, is that enough or should I do a high mg ED, and will I need to do PCT after that 6 weeks cycle?:confused: Also, was thinking of giving my wife 10mg ED, and if anybody knows if there is any side for women? And if needed to take a PCT what a womens PCT looks like????

I am 230 LBS 6'2 and have been working out for over 2 years now. My wife is 135 5'9 and she hit the weights too, but would bump her up if she takes the Anavar...
6 weeks isnt bad, but bumping up to 8 would be better imo...50mgs daily is fine...due to anavers low toxicity and being mildly androgenic men can jack up the dosage up to 80mgs but not necessary, 'specially for what yer trying to do...yer wife should possibly start out at 5mgs daily to see how she does, that may be enough...my x-gf was doing 5mgs per day and had great results but she was already in great condition...she can always bump up the dosage to 10mgs daily, split into (2) doses...anavar doesnt much affect the hpta so pct should be minimal...20mgs of nolva for maybe 2 weeks after is sufficient.....a woman should try to come off the cycle right b4 her period and take an otc pms med with estrovene, taken until her next period.......

[SAWADEEKROB]

Start your gf at 5mg and after 5 weeks assess tolerance changes. She she still needs to have a good diet and train. Her effects may be more remarkable than yours.

[MNGUY2007]

Thanks for posting this topic. Took me a while to find it. I too am thinking of taking 40mg of var ED and putting the wife on 10-20 mg ED. Neither of us has ever done anything beyond normal protien drinks. I work out and run nearly everyday. I am 41. 5'6 180 and about 11% fat. I dont want to gain much wt just want to harden and lean out more. The wife hasnt been very good about working out but is determined with the var to kick start herself and hit the gym regularly. She was blessed and aleady has a great body but would like to tighten up and loose a few pounds. She is 36 4"11 110lbs. Any advice would be appreciated.

[IronBod]

Thanks for posting this topic. Took me a while to find it. I too am thinking of taking 40mg of var ED and putting the wife on 10-20 mg ED. Neither of us has ever done anything beyond normal protien drinks. I work out and run nearly everyday. I am 41. 5'6 180 and about 11% fat. I dont want to gain much wt just want to harden and lean out more. The wife hasnt been very good about working out but is determined with the var to kick start herself and hit the gym regularly. She was blessed and aleady has a great body but would like to tighten up and loose a few pounds. She is 36 4"11 110lbs. Any advice would be appreciated.

Correct dose for your wife would be 5-10mg day. 20mg day too much !

Even though Var has a low liver toxiticity, you should use a liver support
supplement.

[Skrillz]

I wouldn't start your wife out at 20mgs/day. 10mgs initially but you want to make sure that she tolerates it well. It is a mild steroid and your girl is a small lady so take it easy initially. 40 mgs for you is an awesome starting point and make sure you are supplementing with creatine...I'd run it for 6 weeks...

[jjgonz]

running var for 6 weeks is good..but it is mild and if you use synthergine or a good liver protectant...and if you can afford it of course...might as well run it for 8-10 weeks...just my .02 though....bump on 20 being too high for your wife...and she should really get herself on a routine before starting any steroid even if its as mild as var...without proper diet routines and rest all the var in the world wont change a thing...i think for anyone whether it be male or female its always best to have those 3 things down to the T prior to starting any type of cycle

[MNGUY2007]

Thanks for the feedback guys. would increased cardio and light wts help the wife along with 5-10mg of Anavar and creatine?

Myself- I plan on doing 40-50 mg Anavar along with creatine, protien etc. We are starting this comming week..Any advice on diet or whatever would be great.

Thanks

[Rubix]

Thanks for the feedback guys. would increased cardio and light wts help the wife along with 5-10mg of Anavar and creatine?

Myself- I plan on doing 40-50 mg Anavar along with creatine, protien etc. We are starting this comming week..Any advice on diet or whatever would be great.

Thanks

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[Superman66]

Anavar

NOTICE: This information is for entertainment purposes ONLY!

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Pharmaceutical Name: Oxandrolone (OXA)
Chemical Structure: 5 alpha-androstan-2-oxa-17 alpha-methyl-17 beta-ol-3-one
Molecular Weight Of Base: 306.4442
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Effective Dose: 20-40 mg/day for men, 10-15 mg/day for women


Characteristics:
AAn intrinsically weak steroid with a high price-tag and low availability, oxandrolone owes its large popularity due to its safety. In sharp contrast to oxymetholone, oxandrolone is quite generally considered to be the safest of all steroids. Its effects are more than well-documented and have been for a few decades now. The medical community values oxandrolone as a safe alternative for more harmful steroids, which is why it is considered safe for use in children and even in patients suffering hepa-toxicity as the result of alternate steroid use1.
It's most noted medical use has been in the expediting of wound healing2,3 often practically applied to the treatment of burns 4,5,6. But recently its gaining popularity again as a means of keeping weight on HIV-infected patients suffering from wasting due to the immuno-deficiency virus. It was also considered safe for use in prepubescent children with a growth delay7. No major harmful effects were noted from this particular therapy, eventhough one study8 reported that the use of oxandrolone did speed up the onset of puberty in these children. Furthermore oxandrolone has found frequent applications in the treatment of other wasting symptoms for hepatitis and cancer as well as the treatment of osteoporosis in both men and women of all ages.
Oxandrolone was introduced in the year 1964, when Searle came out with the original Anavar. It quickly became the popular drug in the sports crowd for people looking for a safer alternative to the major steroid at the time, Dianabol (methandrostenolone). It remained one of the best-sellers for well over 2 decades until it was indefinitely discontinued in the year 1989. Much to the regret of the recreational bodybuilding and powerlifting community. The prices have remained high for the little stock that remained available. The only brand readily found was oxandrolone SPA, manufactured in Milano, Italy. That is, until 1995 when its use in the treatment of the then vastly spreading immuno-deficiency disease AIDS9 sparked the interest of BTG, a US-based company who came out with Oxandrin. The first widely available oxandrolone product since Anavar production was stopped.
The main reasons for the wide-spread use of oxandrolone in sports is because it is very appealing to female athletes as well as male athletes. It causes little or no virilization properties, demonstrated by its medical uses to treat women. This is rather surprising since oxandrolone does not aromatize either. It's the only steroid that is both safe and convenient without producing excess estrogen. That makes it particularly useful when cutting up for a contest or preventing an increase in body-fat due to estrogenic effects. In fact the main use of oxandrolone to a bodybuilder is in the maintenance of lean mass while reducing body-fat. Oxandrolone itself may not actually reduce body-fat, but it too plays a key role in the process. Like most non-aromatizing compounds it has a repressing effect on the appetite making it easier for the user to control cravings and stay strict with his diet.
Oxandrolone also has little effect on the body's own natural hormone production. The negative feedback was found to be very minor, meaning that during short term use no suppression of Gonadotropin releasing hormone (GnRH, start of natural testosterone production) was noted. This meant that whatever gains made, as little as they may have been, were very easily maintained post-cycle. So there was also no use for products like Clomid or Nolvadex in conjunction with oxandrolone consumption. The easy to maintain low gains would indicate a low binding to the androgen receptor. While not extremely high, it should actually be noted that it does have quite decent binding to the androgen receptor. But the reason for its mild effects is quite likely the low dose used. Rarely if ever are doses higher than 20 mg used on a daily basis. Either because of convenience or due to the high price. But comparing that the doses of other steroids this is remarkably low. So its only logical the gains and side-effects aren't particularly notable.
Of course a bodybuilder has limited use for a compound that is both a weak androgen in the doses mostly used and doesn't aromatize since no mentionable effect on mass can be produced to satisfy the chemically enhanced athlete. Therefor it is best noted that oxandrolone is most popular with power- and weightlifters to enhance strength without increasing bodyweight. This is valued highly since strength athletes often compete in weight-classes. Oxandrolone does not increase strength through androgenic stimulation, at least not primarily. It stimulates the formation of phosphocreatine, a body compound that can replenish ATP (adenosine tri-phosphate) , the main energy currency of the living organism. This gives an incredible increase in short term anaerobic performance, the type needed for explosive action such as sprinting and lifting weight.
For bodybuilders the best results are seen when stacking oxandrolone with a highly androgenic compound. Either during a mass stack with aromatizable products to boost strength a little more, or in conjunction with a non-estrogenic compound. This is most beneficial since it can maintain lean mass, decrease appetite, improve sharpness of the muscle and keep strength levels up without giving increased androgenic risk (acne, prostate hypertrophy, hair loss) when stacked with pure androgens (stanozolol, drostanolone). For those looking for safe maintenance of muscle mass a stack of Anavar with Primobolan is not a bad investment (but a big investment). The common use of oxandrolone is estimated, at 0.125 mg per pound of bodyweight. For men it should be closer to 0.2 mg per pound, for women 0.08 mg per pound per day.
The downsides to oxandrolone are minor. The worst problem by far is the poor availability and high price. But it has to be noted that, eventhough oxandrolone is nowhere near Halotestin or anadrol in hepa-toxicity, it too is a 17-alpha-alkylated substance that can cause liver damage if used for long periods on end. Other common side-effects include headaches, loss of libido, diarrhea and dizziness.
The conclusion to follow these paragraphs is of course that oxandrolone is understandably still a popular and very versatile steroid, much desired by both experienced athletes and novice users because of its many properties. While few will say this is the best or their favorite steroid, you won't find many that will have anything negative to say about it either.
Stacking and Use:
Because of its mild nature and the low doses generally used with oxandrolone there is very little use for secondary compounds like anti-aromatase drugs, estrogen receptor antagonists or blood pressure medication. That in itself may somewhat make up for the high cost and little gains made on it.
In stacks Anavar is sometimes used to increase strength or help maintain it during mass phases. Oxandrolone obviously has very little to add in terms of mass compared to the other substances used to obtain such goals. It fades in comparison to test, Deca, Anadrol, D-bol and such. Nonetheless it is added quite often, perhaps because people assume it will make the overall stack less hazardous, but that's a myth of course. Frankly I would imagine there are better and cheaper things to waste your money on if mass is what you seek.
On a cutting phase oxandrolone makes a good match for 120-140 mcg of clenbuterol daily stacked with something in the nature of Halotestin or Winstrol. The combination improves muscle hardness and striation as well as support mass and strength retention. Experienced users would preferably add testosterone propionate or Equipoise no doubt, rather than Halotestin or Winstrol due to less hazard to the liver associated with those two drugs, especially Halotestin. Mostly it is used for decent strength gains without gaining too much weight, particularly suited for weight- and powerlifters and martial artists. In that aspect, and in my humble opinion, Winstrol would be a good choice for a stack. 50 mg of Winstrol every day to every other day stacked with 30-40 mg of oxandrolone daily would give a very good result in overall strength enhancement without adding a mentionable amount of weight to the frame.

[Alin]

I am looking to start a 6 week Anavar cycle at 50mg ED. I will take Creatine while taking. Just looking to cut up and harden my muscles. Am looking to add to it due to the circumstance that I wont be able to inject anything. :( Is there anything I could add to it pill form to complement? My question is, is that enough or should I do a high mg ED, and will I need to do PCT after that 6 weeks cycle?:confused: Also, was thinking of giving my wife 10mg ED, and if anybody knows if there is any side for women? And if needed to take a PCT what a womens PCT looks like????

I am 230 LBS 6'2 and have been working out for over 2 years now. My wife is 135 5'9 and she hit the weights too, but would bump her up if she takes the Anavar...


Personally i think for a male 6 weeks is too short cycle for ANAVARS best results. Try 8-12 weeks.

[Alin]

I am looking to start a 6 week Anavar cycle at 50mg ED. I will take Creatine while taking. Just looking to cut up and harden my muscles. Am looking to add to it due to the circumstance that I wont be able to inject anything. :( Is there anything I could add to it pill form to complement? My question is, is that enough or should I do a high mg ED, and will I need to do PCT after that 6 weeks cycle?:confused: Also, was thinking of giving my wife 10mg ED, and if anybody knows if there is any side for women? And if needed to take a PCT what a womens PCT looks like????

I am 230 LBS 6'2 and have been working out for over 2 years now. My wife is 135 5'9 and she hit the weights too, but would bump her up if she takes the Anavar...

women dont need PCT.
WHAT are her exact goals and experiences?

[kalliste]

I am looking to start a 6 week Anavar cycle at 50mg ED. I will take Creatine while taking. Just looking to cut up and harden my muscles. Am looking to add to it due to the circumstance that I wont be able to inject anything. :( Is there anything I could add to it pill form to complement? My question is, is that enough or should I do a high mg ED, and will I need to do PCT after that 6 weeks cycle?:confused: Also, was thinking of giving my wife 10mg ED, and if anybody knows if there is any side for women? And if needed to take a PCT what a womens PCT looks like????

I am 230 LBS 6'2 and have been working out for over 2 years now. My wife is 135 5'9 and she hit the weights too, but would bump her up if she takes the Anavar...

since women have NOT Gonads, they do need NO PCT !!!
:D:D:D

[MNGUY2007]

My wifes goals are to trim bodyfat and lean and ad some lean body mass. She is 36yo, 4'11" around 110. She has never had to work at her body (great Body) age and kids have her feeling a bit down on her looks. Growing up with a gymnast body without having to work at it makes it hard to take the fact that now she needs to put more effort into it...So thats her goals. She also has a bad shoulder (RT) which makes it hard to lift serious. She is willing to do cardio and any aerobics...

Whats your thoughts?

[mw2008]

Correct dose for your wife would be 5-10mg day. 20mg day too much !

Even though Var has a low liver toxiticity, you should use a liver support
supplement.

I cycled 5-10mg / day in combo with primo.
WOrked awesome~!!

[ruyshed]

Anyone hear of adding equipoise with Var? I want to add something a little stronger to the creatine, var, & possibly winnie. I have done research on all elements but have never seen them mentioned together.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

5'6" ~180 BF ?

[jjgonz]

ruy how old are you and guess your bf...can you see abs? whats your goals and cycle experience....forget eq...just add test

[Superman66]

Anyone hear of adding equipoise with Var? I want to add something a little stronger to the creatine, var, & possibly winnie. I have done research on all elements but have never seen them mentioned together.
Any help is greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

5'6" ~180 BF ?

how about a test?

[MNGUY2007]

Ok...One week into the Anavar cycle for myself and my wife....So far...she has only noticed gaining a few pounds...I have noticed really nothing...any advice?

[lola26]

yeah.... stop and learn to eat and train.

[ojs]

Ok...One week into the Anavar cycle for myself and my wife....So far...she has only noticed gaining a few pounds...I have noticed really nothing...any advice?
Yes. BUMP LOLA!!!

...If you're not gaining it can only be that you're not eating enough. And when you do start eating enough, make sure it's the right kind of foods or you'll just get fat. It doesn't take rocket science. You can't gain without food!!!!!!:cool:

[MNGUY2007]

OK...One week into the Anavar cycle...Im doing 30md split daily and wife is doing 15mg split daily. Neither has noticed anything yet except both have added 5lbs on the scale. Not what we intended to do. Any comments or advice?

[MNGUY2007]

Nice comments LOLA26. As for diet and training goes...No issues here. Wrestled and trained through college and coached and taught nutrition as well. So.thanks for the worthless comments.. I wonder why you took the time to say something so stupid anyway.

[lola26]

see post #21 and #22.


what the fuck did you think was going to happen on 30mg of var???????????????????????

[ojs]

Nice comments LOLA26. As for diet and training goes...No issues here. Wrestled and trained through college and coached and taught nutrition as well. So.thanks for the worthless comments.. I wonder why you took the time to say something so stupid anyway.You having taught nutrition doesn't mean a thing in this sport. It's rare that a nutritionist really understands how food affects muscle growth. I personally know 4 nutritionists. And 3 of them couldn't put 10lbs of muscle on you if their life depended on it. And one of those 3 teaches nutrition in college. The one that knows what she's talking about competes in bodybuilding at the national level. And by her own words and to her surprise, didn't understand nutrition and muscle growth until she started competing seriously.

Post your diet. There are a few of us that are quite experienced at this.

As for your Anavar dosages, your wife's 10mg/day is equivalent to your 40mg/day. Use that to figure your dosages.

[lola26]

haha.. well put oj. experience, what a valuable thing!!

[ruyshed]

I am 36...have limited experience with sus & winnie. I am getting back in the gym after a 2 year injury filled period. My BF is around 20%.
I wanted to do something that would give me good results but not too obvious. My goal is is strength with minimal size.
So add test (which?) to the var, creatine, & winnie?

Thanks!

[ojs]

I am 36...have limited experience with sus & winnie. I am getting back in the gym after a 2 year injury filled period. My BF is around 20%.
I wanted to do something that would give me good results but not too obvious. My goal is is strength with minimal size.
So add test (which?) to the var, creatine, & winnie?

Thanks!Don't hijack this thread. Start your own and you'll get plenty of good suggestions.

[lola26]

bump oj.. start your own thread and start it by posting your full stats.

[kevin3987]

Correct dose for your wife would be 5-10mg day. 20mg day too much !

Even though Var has a low liver toxiticity, you should use a liver support
supplement.

Bump! as with any oral in the feild. nomatter how mild

[ruyshed]

my apoligies