first cycle

[hulk smash]

so guys , been on here since june. love site and all. have sust/deca dbol cycle in hand. have had for a bit now. was trying to go as far natural as possible. 61 197 lbs. i know kept hearing test alone for a first cycle is plenty and all but i also heard that stealth sust is a bitch and gets smoother with the deca.gonna bump start with dbol 30/40? mg 4 weeks. transferring stealth to vials today with girlfriend. probably withdraw from packets but also considering scissors. gonna mix the two compounds and inject 2 a week. thinking 500 sust/400 deca.um question when withdrawing into syringe does it matter which is first. does it make it any different going in or do the two compounds mix once together in syringe.um have all pct nolva/clomid and have hcg too.and looking to bridge anavar betweeen this and next cycle.good idea?.

[FordTurboDiesel]

I think your biting off alittle for a first cycle. I single esther would have been better.

You can bridge with Var from what I read. You seem to have big plans this first time around, but you don't even know how any of this is going to affect you yet......?

[unclevername]

I think your biting off alittle for a first cycle. I single esther would have been better.

You can bridge with Var from what I read. You seem to have big plans this first time around, but you don't even know how any of this is going to affect you yet......?


Bump this. If I were you I would get some Stealth test C and do 500 mg of test C for 12-14 weeks.

[jjgonz]

good luck hulk ill be doing almost the exact same cycle soon :)

[Benner]

I cant help but agree with 'unclever' and 'ford' on this one. 3 compounds for first cycle? Are you over 25? because you are gonna shut down pretty good especially with the deca. Why dont you do test e for 12 weeks at 500mg per week, and dbol at 30mg MAYBE 40mg ED, but 40 might be a little much too for 4 weeks? Your proposed cycle is a good one, but it is the type folks take as a 3rd cycle usually. Good luck either way partner:)

[flatblack]

be better if u saved the sus for a few cycles down the road, so u have something to progress to...i agree, a single estered test woulda been better, but since u have the sus, well, u know what to do:)

[jjgonz]

let us know how the transferring goes did you got with the scissor method or no?

[hulk smash]

im 32 years old 6'1 197 and can positively say ive taken my body far natural. was 155 at one point. appreciate everyones advice but will still stick with the sust. transfered to vials , lost a tiny bit of deca but still over 5 ml:D . .if im hard headed and still sticking with deca/sust even for first cycle whats a good doage you think. what i have already stated 500 sust/400 deca or higher /lower of the two. thanks for any advice guys. please no more single estered run cycles for 10-12 weeks advice. know you guys are trying to help and your the best but ill be running with the sust anyways:)so more or less looking for a better dosage then 500/400 if there is one in your opinion.

[hulk smash]

let us know how the transferring goes did you got with the scissor method or no?

ya scissor method. wiped everything in site down to be sterile. lost a tiny deca as i squeezed corner but made up for it though.

[SteroidalTendency]

i always cut the satchets and draw from there, always get about 6ml and never lose any. i went with test c and Eq for first cycle, fuck it. I know a guy who did sus and deca for first cycle, didnt know alot about diet but got great results

[flatblack]

im 32 years old 6'1 197 and can positively say ive taken my body far natural. was 155 at one point. appreciate everyones advice but will still stick with the sust. transfered to vials , lost a tiny bit of deca but still over 5 ml:D . .if im hard headed and still sticking with deca/sust even for first cycle whats a good doage you think. what i have already stated 500 sust/400 deca or higher /lower of the two. thanks for any advice guys. please no more single estered run cycles for 10-12 weeks advice. know you guys are trying to help and your the best but ill be running with the sust anyways:)so more or less looking for a better dosage then 500/400 if there is one in your opinion.
nothing wrong with those dosages for yer 1st cycle....tho i would do th sus for 14 weeks and the deca for 12, have fun getting bigger:)

[hulk smash]

nothing wrong with those dosages for yer 1st cycle....tho i would do th sus for 14 weeks and the deca for 12, have fun getting bigger:)

thanks flat. have enough for 8 - 10 week cycle. sust will kick in fast hopefully and plus with the jumpstart with dbol figure ill be good. just got back from putting my anavar order in:D heard a lot of good things about it.when i first joined on here remember Swoll kinda saying to go with the sust/deca as your first cycle at least in my case, as you only have one first cycle. guess kinda stuck with me.:p but i respect what everyone says about first cycles and i dont wanna sound like im just jumping into this as that is not the case at all.just wanna do my sust/deca/dbol.

[unclevername]

Hey Hulk, if you are adding in the Deca to mello the sting of the sust, why not just use sterile oil? The probelm with using Deca and Test on your first cycle is you do not know if you are prone to estrogen related gyno from the test. If you get gyno during this cycle you are not going to have a clue if it is caused by estrogen from the test or progesterone from the deca. I am not trying to give you a hard time but I don't want to see you make a mistake.

[Benner]

500/400 Test/deca dosages are good. You may want to stay with 30mg dbol ED because you can get ridiculous back pumps from 40mg ED at least I did, and I had a very hard time with them. Good luck man:D

[Alin]

so guys , been on here since june. love site and all. have sust/deca dbol cycle in hand. have had for a bit now. was trying to go as far natural as possible. 61 197 lbs. i know kept hearing test alone for a first cycle is plenty and all but i also heard that stealth sust is a bitch and gets smoother with the deca.gonna bump start with dbol 30/40? mg 4 weeks. transferring stealth to vials today with girlfriend. probably withdraw from packets but also considering scissors. gonna mix the two compounds and inject 2 a week. thinking 500 sust/400 deca.um question when withdrawing into syringe does it matter which is first. does it make it any different going in or do the two compounds mix once together in syringe.um have all pct nolva/clomid and have hcg too.and looking to bridge anavar betweeen this and next cycle.good idea?.

500mg SUST wk
400mg DECA wk
20-40mg DBOL daily WKS 1-4

USE AI like ARIMIDEX or LETROZOLE through cycle.

[SwoleTexasKid]

Hey Hulk Smash, contrary to what you have heard, I found the Stealth Sustanon to be VERY smooth and painless.

It does not matter what order you put the gear into the pin, just mix 1ml Sust and 1m Deca in the pin and shoot slowly. Dont massage. You should not have any trouble.

Sustanon/Deca/Dbol is a great choice. These three compounds work great together and I have run it before with stellar results.

What I said is so very true. You only get on chance for your first cycle. Your body is going to respond more to this first one than any other to follow, and your chances for gains are great. I only wish I had done sust/deca/dbol my first time. Eat HUGE. Remember this. Protein galore.

Best of Luck Brother. And your Giants still suck.

[drob29]

Hey Hulk, if you are adding in the Deca to mello the sting of the sust, why not just use sterile oil? The probelm with using Deca and Test on your first cycle is you do not know if you are prone to estrogen related gyno from the test. If you get gyno during this cycle you are not going to have a clue if it is caused by estrogen from the test or progesterone from the deca. I am not trying to give you a hard time but I don't want to see you make a mistake.

I agree 100% with this.

Your body is going to respond more to this first one than any other to follow, and your chances for gains are great. .

Agreed, but so is the chance for sides with a multi compund cycle for the first cycle.

Like swoll said, you need to eat HUGE and hulk pay close attention to the nips, look for itchyness and puffyness. weeks 4/5/6 really pay close attention.

good luck:cool:

[flatblack]

bump drob on this one hulk, but dont get overly worked up if yer nips feel a little more sensitive, especially in the cold...mine did a few weeks into the current cycle i'm on then went away on its own.............

[LeanMass17]

so guys , been on here since june. love site and all. have sust/deca dbol cycle in hand. have had for a bit now. was trying to go as far natural as possible. 61 197 lbs. i know kept hearing test alone for a first cycle is plenty and all but i also heard that stealth sust is a bitch and gets smoother with the deca.gonna bump start with dbol 30/40? mg 4 weeks. transferring stealth to vials today with girlfriend. probably withdraw from packets but also considering scissors. gonna mix the two compounds and inject 2 a week. thinking 500 sust/400 deca.um question when withdrawing into syringe does it matter which is first. does it make it any different going in or do the two compounds mix once together in syringe.um have all pct nolva/clomid and have hcg too.and looking to bridge anavar betweeen this and next cycle.good idea?.

I think this fine for your first cycle as long as you have an AI and Caber close by....Get Huge Dude :cool:

[hulk smash]

thanks so much for all the advice. really appreciate it. gonna eat like a motha fucka, protein is my best friend.keep ya updated.

[unclevername]

Good Luck Bro. Enjoy your ride.:D:D:D:D:D

[jjgonz]

hulk did you cut the edge and then withdraw or pour it into a syringe you stuck into a vial with out the plunger just curious

[SwoleTexasKid]

hulk did you cut the edge and then withdraw or pour it into a syringe you stuck into a vial with out the plunger just curious

Hey JJ,


The way I transfer my stealth is by snipping off a small corner, pulling the plunger out of a pin, pouring 3ml in, re-plunging and shoot into the vial. It saves a lot of time and can make a small mess until you get really good at it but I always get 5.5ml out of each one. Some with 6.

[hulk smash]

hulk did you cut the edge and then withdraw or pour it into a syringe you stuck into a vial with out the plunger just curious

i wiped everything down , scissors and sachets.(wore gloves) cut edge off of sachet and then slowly withdrew it. got over 5 each time. sometimes not much but always over. was nervous at first but the rest was easy sailing. my girfriend helped me out too which was good. sometimes when your by yourself i think you get more nervous , well at least i do. so her being there saying dont worry just take it slow steadys my hand.next one ill do myself though.dont wanna get too dependent on her.:D

[hulk smash]

hey jjgonz, whats your status on this. see you joined in november. and running something similar. are you close to starting and is this your first cycle?