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blackhawk023
03-04-2006, 06:21 AM
Ok guys, here is my queston. I am looking for a cycle that someone has takin and has had results. I am looking for a cutting/lean mass cycle. I have a good diet, i eat properly. You just have to take my word for it. I dont really want to go over what i eat every day and how i train. Im no newbie to training and diet. So here is my goal, i want to get cut and gain some mass before i start my 2nd cycle which will be a mass cycle. So can someone with experience with this kind of cycle please tell me what they took. When/dosage, well you know the routine. I just really need someone to break it down for me, a cycle that they have used and they know that it works. People always ask the same shit and try to solve problems, im not trying to solve a problem. Im trying to accomplish a goal as fast as i can. Here are my stats, 25, 5'9", 159. Not much fat, and a good amount of muscle. I do not need to loose much fat, maybe about 5-10lbs. And would like to gain some lean mass while at it. The reason i am being straight forward like this is because it seems like everyone gives me answers that i dont need. All i need is the cycle that people have taken and had good results. Please help. I would be very greatful if someone could help. Thanks.

jstforme
03-04-2006, 07:47 AM
you want to gain muscle while loosing fat, that is kind of hard to do because in my opinion that is based upon your diet, and those are two different diets, calorie-wise.

blackhawk023
03-04-2006, 08:00 AM
you want to gain muscle while loosing fat, that is kind of hard to do because in my opinion that is based upon your diet, and those are two different diets, calorie-wise.

Gain muscle if possible. My main goal is to loose fat. So im guessing you dont know a cycle for this. I get these same answers from people. My goal is to cut fat, and if possible to gain a little lean mass. This can be done, i know it can. Just assume my diet is fine and my workouts are fine. Just looking for a good cycle for this goal. That is all.

aintnothingtoitbuttodoitC
03-04-2006, 12:04 PM
I know that HGH works good but takes time and money. That stuff will add lean muscle mass (increase muscle cell count, not just increase mucsle cell size) and also you lose fat deposit on this stuff. Just what you are looking for. I will review AAS for cutting, been awhile since I researched that info.

erhard
03-05-2006, 01:53 AM
Blackhawk, maybe look toward some Eq and tren hex, they work great together.

blackhawk023
03-05-2006, 06:59 AM
yeah i will look in to those. I need to find out dosages though.

church
03-06-2006, 11:45 AM
I cut on 500mg/wk of test and 5-600mg/wk of EQ. If this is your first cycle, just run 500mg/wk of test cyp or enan split in two doses for 10 weeks. If you're not looking to bloat, don't kickstart with dbol. Just run the test, keep your diet clean, and see what it does to you. I know you'd like to play with other things, but just try plain test for your first cycle to see how you're going to react. Also make sure you have HCG and nolvadex on hand. Nolvadex will take care of gyno if it flares up and you also use it for PCT. HCG is to bring your "boys" back from testicular atrophy (which very well may happen). Cutting is entirely based on diet. Most guys will bulk at 5-6k calories per day. If you're somewhere around 200lbs, I'd suggest starting around 3.5k calories per day on gear and see what happens. I see that you're a lot lower than that, so I'm not sure where you'd want to start. Being experienced, you'll know if you have to raise or lower your caloric intake. I'd raise or lower by about 200 calories/day in 1 week intervals depending on how things are looking. Don't measure according to the scale, you'll probably gain some weight even while loosing body fat. Look into clen as well if you're in a hurry. Hope this helps.

erhard
03-06-2006, 11:12 PM
225-300 mgs of parabolan (tren hex) for 10 weeks.Eq 400-500 mgs 10-12 weeks. And .025 mgs arimedex a day. Nolva/ Clomid PCT for 3 weeks

church
03-06-2006, 11:24 PM
Not to hijack the thread, but what's the halflife on parabolan? I've never tried tren(acetate) because I don't want to feel like a pincusion

jstforme
03-07-2006, 08:08 AM
225-300 mgs of parabolan (tren hex) for 10 weeks.Eq 400-500 mgs 10-12 weeks. And .025 mgs arimedex a day. Nolva/ Clomid PCT for 3 weeks

im no expert at tren but ive always heard 6 weeks max, 10 weeks is going to do some damage.

jstforme
03-07-2006, 08:11 AM
Not to hijack the thread, but what's the halflife on parabolan? I've never tried tren(acetate) because I don't want to feel like a pincusion

well assuming that you have to inject EOD, i would say its 2-3 days

sTaTic
03-07-2006, 09:34 PM
Ok here's one that I do that gives you amazing results:

Week 1-8 Tren A ED 75mgs
week 1-15 EQ 600mgs/weeks
week 1-15 clen 120mcgs ED 2 weeks on two weeks off (ephedrine/caffine on the weeks off)
week 18 start PCT

If you really want even greater results, throw in winny from week 12 up to pct at 50mgs ED

you'll be very happy with that

church
03-08-2006, 01:11 AM
well assuming that you have to inject EOD, i would say its 2-3 days


Acetate is 2-3 days...so I went searching.

3. Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate (called Parabolan by Bill Roberts)
Parabolan contains a much different ester than Finaject and Finajet, called Trenbolone Cyclohexylmethylcarbonate. This ester extends the activity of trenbolone for more than two weeks, a more suitable design for human use.

shivastool
03-08-2006, 03:58 AM
Ok here's one that I do that gives you amazing results:

Week 1-8 Tren A ED 75mgs
week 1-15 EQ 600mgs/weeks
week 1-15 clen 120mcgs ED 2 weeks on two weeks off (ephedrine/caffine on the weeks off)
week 18 start PCT

If you really want even greater results, throw in winny from week 12 up to pct at 50mgs ED

you'll be very happy with that
Static...you don't have libido probs with this? Alot of people say Test is a must with Tren or else...no wood.

sTaTic
03-08-2006, 04:26 AM
none at all. I take care of my wife all the way through it and after. I mean, I'm not chasing her around with my dick in my hand like when you are on test but When dutie calls, I'm all good or wood :D

Beetlejuice
03-08-2006, 08:58 AM
bumping jstfrme. Brutha if you run tren for 10 weeks at 300 or more mg when you come off that shit you are gonna be crazier than a shit house rat!!!!!!

im no expert at tren but ive always heard 6 weeks max, 10 weeks is going to do some damage.

sTaTic
03-08-2006, 07:39 PM
Ive ran it for 10 weeks and I am fine

erhard
03-08-2006, 10:18 PM
I have never had a problem running tren that long but I guess everybody is different.

Beetlejuice
03-08-2006, 11:54 PM
or so you say! Hahahaha! If you didnt get depressed or paranoid at the end or a case of being an ass then good for you. I go psycho after a long tren cycle.

Ive ran it for 10 weeks and I am fine

sTaTic
03-09-2006, 12:01 AM
or so you say! Hahahaha! If you didnt get depressed or paranoid at the end or a case of being an ass then good for you. I go psycho after a long tren cycle.


:D thats because your pissed you have to come off that wonder drug.... ;)

Beetlejuice
03-09-2006, 02:41 AM
You know you are probably right because I love that shit.... :D

:D thats because your pissed you have to come off that wonder drug.... ;)

bod1ggity
03-09-2006, 04:30 PM
Static...you don't have libido probs with this? Alot of people say Test is a must with Tren or else...no wood.

Take Proviron with it, no libido probs and you dont have to deal with the harsh sides that come with mixing tren with test

anaholic
03-11-2006, 05:38 PM
400mg per week decca
200mg per week primobalon depot
25mg per day oral winstrol
run it untill you reach a platoe

Alin
03-12-2006, 06:11 AM
Ok guys, here is my queston. I am looking for a cycle that someone has takin and has had results. I am looking for a cutting/lean mass cycle. I have a good diet, i eat properly. You just have to take my word for it. I dont really want to go over what i eat every day and how i train. Im no newbie to training and diet. So here is my goal, i want to get cut and gain some mass before i start my 2nd cycle which will be a mass cycle. So can someone with experience with this kind of cycle please tell me what they took. When/dosage, well you know the routine. I just really need someone to break it down for me, a cycle that they have used and they know that it works. People always ask the same shit and try to solve problems, im not trying to solve a problem. Im trying to accomplish a goal as fast as i can. Here are my stats, 25, 5'9", 159. Not much fat, and a good amount of muscle. I do not need to loose much fat, maybe about 5-10lbs. And would like to gain some lean mass while at it. The reason i am being straight forward like this is because it seems like everyone gives me answers that i dont need. All i need is the cycle that people have taken and had good results. Please help. I would be very greatful if someone could help. Thanks.

Winstrol, Tren, Test prop..see alinshop (cycles&kits) for cycle idea.