Gonna try to draw fluid off delt - arghhh!!

[mccollumstacy]

Pinned the Right delt to many times in the same spot - Dumbass move

It basically got soar as hell and tightened up - then I had a Knott form on top of the mid delt. Damn thing looks like a horn trying to poke through. The soarness went away but the horn didn't - now instead of it being hard or tight - it is almost like a pocket of fluid or something waiting to be popped. I am going to take a needle tonight and try to draw the shit off as it is pretty damn noticeable - even through golf shirts and T's. The wife thinks the shit is funny as hell - but it has me paranoid - Not like I can go over to the doc and explain that one to him - so self surgery tonight. Anyone else had this happen?

[IronBod]

Just be careful, with the self surgery. Let us know how it goes.

[InkFiend33]

screw that .... i would go see the dr...... you could make it a lot worse.....

[musclehead33]

screw that .... i would go see the dr...... you could make it a lot worse.....

thats right you dont want it gettin in your blood stream bro go see doc they will take care of you.peace

[drob29]

screw that .... i would go see the dr...... you could make it a lot worse.....

I agree...:cool:

self surgery is usually a bad idea

[ojs]

I agree...:cool:

self surgery is usually a bad idea
If you don't want to see your regular doctor, go to emergency. But go see a doctor.

[Krom]

I got a bubble like that one time but on my glute. I thought of just draining it with 18 gauge needle. I've read about other people who've done the same. The bubble disappeared though.

[Alin]

Pinned the Right delt to many times in the same spot - Dumbass move

It basically got soar as hell and tightened up - then I had a Knott form on top of the mid delt. Damn thing looks like a horn trying to poke through. The soarness went away but the horn didn't - now instead of it being hard or tight - it is almost like a pocket of fluid or something waiting to be popped. I am going to take a needle tonight and try to draw the shit off as it is pretty damn noticeable - even through golf shirts and T's. The wife thinks the shit is funny as hell - but it has me paranoid - Not like I can go over to the doc and explain that one to him - so self surgery tonight. Anyone else had this happen?

Man,,be careful doing that yourself...see a doc.

[lunny]

did that to my ass once with a 20 gauge and it was a whole lot of no fun!!!!! it does work bro..

[InkFiend33]

did that to my ass once with a 20 gauge and it was a whole lot of no fun!!!!! it does work bro..

oh dont encourage him.......

[steak]

Pinned the Right delt to many times in the same spot - Dumbass move

It basically got soar as hell and tightened up - then I had a Knott form on top of the mid delt. Damn thing looks like a horn trying to poke through. The soarness went away but the horn didn't - now instead of it being hard or tight - it is almost like a pocket of fluid or something waiting to be popped. I am going to take a needle tonight and try to draw the shit off as it is pretty damn noticeable - even through golf shirts and T's. The wife thinks the shit is funny as hell - but it has me paranoid - Not like I can go over to the doc and explain that one to him - so self surgery tonight. Anyone else had this happen?

Looks like we have a new Creg Valentino:D Don`t forget to video cam it and post it for us j/k:D:D:D

[mccollumstacy]

What's the fear you guys see in it - It isn't infected IMO - but rather to much oil in one spot - I have had it happen before and did as Krom - waited it out and it dissapaited - but it is just standing out like a red flag this time - I don't think it is going to go away soon enough. I don't think I will have to do more than 1/2" to draw it off as it is just on top of the muscle - almost think I could take a razor and lance it - but that seems to be more painful. What kinda complications could occur? Seems the worst is I go a little to deep and it would be like aspirating - nothing. I have pinned through it before as I was just out of spots to rotate to - Don't worry Deadbolt - You did not encourage nor discourage me - I can and will take responsibility for my own actions - I was just curious if you guys had it happen before.
Deadbolt - was kinda fluid did you draw off? Did it still resemble oil?

[mccollumstacy]

Looks like we have a new Creg Valentino:D Don`t forget to video cam it and post it for us j/k:D:D:D

Alright - that won't be happening - If I follow through with it I will definitely let you guys in on it. But I don't thing I'll be gettin any pinns off of the floor were I Shit to stick with. Hell - that guy could of at least wiped it down with a swab or something. I would tell you guys I have never infected myself before - but it just seems like bad timing to be bragging.

Sorry Lunny - I kept referring to DeadBolt on the last post for some reason. You were the one I was asking.

[viperblue]

Its definitely not the best idea to drain it yourself but if you are going to make sure you're very sanitary. I'd pick up some Hibiclens from your local pharmacy, its over the counter but usually behind the counter (this is what doctors wash with before surgeries). I would wash with it before and after. I would also continue to wash the delt with it everyday for a week or so afterwards. Good Luck.

[Krom]

Why go to a doctor to get something so simple done you could do it yourself, save a bunch of money and not risk having a bad medical record that fucks you with insurance? Its no big deal to drain it with an 18 gauge needle. Its just under the skin. Now if he had cellulitus, then he would need antibiotics.

[375RANGER]

yea i had it happen to my left pec. when i wore a t shirt you could see it. it went away and now i inject a little higher. all part of the game.:D

[flatblack]

screw that .... i would go see the dr...... you could make it a lot worse..... bump that...at least get yer hands on some antiobiotics to take the infection down some...if that shit gets in yer blood stream, y'all is gonna get real sick...be careful...........

[CountVascular]

go to a doc and say it was a spider bite......If it is fluid and it needs to come out, I doubt is is gonna be clear oil, all pretty and new....I am pinning my delts eod, and I end up with balls the size of coke bottle lids..yeah, it feels itchy, it feels like it is a massive boil waiting to be squeezed, but not much pain...I just leave them, it takes about 5 days for it to dissapate....My last left front delt was painless, but I have a red welt, a little itchy and warm all over my left bicep....about the size of an open hand....all a little weird, but hey fuck it, I love juicing, so I would rather look a little red and itchy than squeaky clean and skinny :D:D:D

[flatblack]

go to a doc and say it was a spider bite......If it is fluid and it needs to come out, I doubt is is gonna be clear oil, all pretty and new....I am pinning my delts eod, and I end up with balls the size of coke bottle lids..yeah, it feels itchy, it feels like it is a massive boil waiting to be squeezed, but not much pain...I just leave them, it takes about 5 days for it to dissapate....My last left front delt was painless, but I have a red welt, a little itchy and warm all over my left bicep....about the size of an open hand....all a little weird, but hey fuck it, I love juicing, so I would rather look a little red and itchy than squeaky clean and skinny :D:D:D ive read 100x where u talk about pinning yer delts etc., but u dont cycle any other injection sites?...i also like to inject delts but switch to glutes eoweek...saves my delts from becoming hamburger.............

[CountVascular]

ive read 100x where u talk about pinning yer delts etc., but u dont cycle any other injection sites?...i also like to inject delts but switch to glutes eoweek...saves my delts from becoming hamburger.............

Only delts...cant bear the thought of jabing my legs, and I cant get sticking a pin in my ass right! I did the bi's before, and when kevin mans the fuck up and does his lats and lets us know if it is not painful, I will try it....I thought of doing traps........but again, am comfortable with what I know.....i read somewhere you were comfortable with the "reach around" but I think that was another topic :D

[flatblack]

Only delts...cant bear the thought of jabing my legs, and I cant get sticing a pin in my as right! I did the bi's before, and when kevin mans the fuck up and does his lats and lets us know if it is not painful, I will try it....I thought of doing traps........but again, am comfortable with what I know.....i read somewhere you were comfortable with the "reach around" but I think that was another topic :D the "reach around" is definately my thing, being's i'm the gentleman i am...................:D

[mccollumstacy]

Drew 44 cc's off of right delt last night. Started out w/ a 25g 5/8" pin w/ 1cc barrel - 4sticks later I decided to move to a 20g pinn w/ a 10cc barrel. Alot of oil mixed in w/ infectious fluid. It was a nice tan / orange fluid - I could have kept drawing but stopped when I got it down to normal size - there was definitely more fluid in there but I will let it clear on its own. I am going on TRT / or cruising for the next few weeks anyway - so there will be no need to pinn my delts - Give them a break. As far as getting sick - it has been about 12 hours since pulling the fluid off and I seem to be fine - can ya hear me knocking on wood??? Thanks for the concern guys - but I really felt it was a very simply procedure - no different than one injecting themselves. I used a half box of alcohol swabs - so I feel I was sanitary with it. I would do the actual pin and then let my wife draw the fluid as not to torque the needle around and possible spread any infection. I am not sure how this became infected as I am as steril as possible always. I still am not convinced that it was infected but rather just to much oil in one spot over time - the fluid was not clear by no means but did not look like puss or anything. Just looked like alot of oil mixed with tiny amounts of blood to turn it tan color. Anyway - take care

[musclemd]

Go see an MD. Chance of infection - high.

[musclemd]

Glad it has been ok so far bro!

[kevin3987]

Only delts...cant bear the thought of jabing my legs, and I cant get sticking a pin in my ass right! I did the bi's before, and when kevin mans the fuck up and does his lats and lets us know if it is not painful, I will try it....I thought of doing traps........but again, am comfortable with what I know.....i read somewhere you were comfortable with the "reach around" but I think that was another topic :D

No No No, Not The Lats Count, lol.. I only do Delts I no I no scar tissue but I have not had any luck anywher else........

[kevin3987]

Drew 44 cc's off of right delt last night. Started out w/ a 25g 5/8" pin w/ 1cc barrel - 4sticks later I decided to move to a 20g pinn w/ a 10cc barrel. Alot of oil mixed in w/ infectious fluid. It was a nice tan / orange fluid - I could have kept drawing but stopped when I got it down to normal size - there was definitely more fluid in there but I will let it clear on its own. I am going on TRT / or cruising for the next few weeks anyway - so there will be no need to pinn my delts - Give them a break. As far as getting sick - it has been about 12 hours since pulling the fluid off and I seem to be fine - can ya hear me knocking on wood??? Thanks for the concern guys - but I really felt it was a very simply procedure - no different than one injecting themselves. I used a half box of alcohol swabs - so I feel I was sanitary with it. I would do the actual pin and then let my wife draw the fluid as not to torque the needle around and possible spread any infection. I am not sure how this became infected as I am as steril as possible always. I still am not convinced that it was infected but rather just to much oil in one spot over time - the fluid was not clear by no means but did not look like puss or anything. Just looked like alot of oil mixed with tiny amounts of blood to turn it tan color. Anyway - take care
If u can get ur hands on some penniciilin/Ammoxxacillin/augmentin/ any antibiotics I would run per say augmentin at 2 times a day for ten days, it only makes sense there had to be some kind of infection wether or not ur body can fight it off by itself or not? I would not take the chance..JMO

[samcam]

I must be retarded, I am actually afraid to shoot the delts, lol, only shoot the quads and glutes but I only shoot twice a week, if I ever do eod sticks, I will definitely do the delts though.

[mccollumstacy]

If u can get ur hands on some penniciilin/Ammoxxacillin/augmentin/ any antibiotics I would run per say augmentin at 2 times a day for ten days, it only makes sense there had to be some kind of infection wether or not ur body can fight it off by itself or not? I would not take the chance..JMO

Thanks Kev - you're right. I should have an antibiotic still around the med cabinet. I always get them when fighting off sinus infections and such - and never use them up. I will gather my stash up tonight and start one up.

[375RANGER]

the "reach around" is definately my thing, being's i'm the gentleman i am...................:D

i move my inject sites all the time. for example if i'm doing bi's today i inject bi's, or tri's , pec's, lats etc. lat injects are tough to hold in place but no pain, pec's no pain and easy, bi's and tri's hurt though. but you get a great pump after an inject of say tren a. i don't like the legs, if you fuck up it's hard to walk for a few days. it works for me.:)

[Krom]

44 cc's!!! Thats a lot of shmegma to suck outa your delt. Enough for a newbie to run a cycle!!! Just run that 44 cc's threw a whatman filter and save it for later Mwahahahahaha :D:D:D:D jk

Disclaimer: the information in this post is for entertainment purposes only and do not reflect the opinions and views of Krom.

[lostwars]

exciting read and fair play to ye
man up and get that shit outa there!!!
cant say i could have done it myself,hope its the end now and u dont get a further infection

[CountVascular]

that there is a lot of un-dissipated oil....If you are only injecting 4ml a week into each delt, that seems like something way more than oil....

[mccollumstacy]

that there is a lot of un-dissipated oil....If you are only injecting 4ml a week into each delt, that seems like something way more than oil....

Your're right - and surprise - it gathered back into the same pocket. Not nearly as noticeable or full but it still gathered back up. I took a quick look around last night for antibiotics but found nothing that seemed to ring a bell. Alot of left over prescriptions - but I will have to get my wife help me sort through it and find one. Word of advice to ya guys - when you don't finish a prescription - go ahead and label it as to the general medication: ie: antibiotic; decongestant; muscle relaxer; ex. I have a cabinet full of unused prescriptions and can't determine what the hell they are good for. May have to sit down with them and search out on the internet. I don't think I will pull anymore fluid off unless it gets either real noticeable or painful for some reason. Just gonna let the body do its thing. The sad thing about all of this is I had been really working the delts to grow them and was more than satisfied with the developement - went and pulled the fluid off and my shit just deflated on that side - Ha - I had my own syntherol in a natural form.

[tank5469]

if you need any help with medicine names let me know I am a paramedic and have a good amount of knowledge of medicines.

Last spring when I messed my knee up I would drain my own knee, my family docotor had no problem with it. As long as you are safe its no big deal drawing fluid ou tof your own body. You can go online and buy anti biotics but if you doc is liek mine I can jsut call him and say I need some zythromax and he calls it in for me well he does the same for vicodine for me during football. He is gonna put me on trt after my next cycle great guy

[k1*]

Looks like we have a new Creg Valentino:D Don`t forget to video cam it and post it for us j/k:D:D:D

Shit, I was thinking the same exact thing when I read his post...Get your ass to the emergency room...Why take a risk like that, how many times do you think Greg drew shit out before??! All it takes is that one time to fuck your body up.....

[LeanMass17]

Shit, I was thinking the same exact thing when I read his post...Get your ass to the emergency room...Why take a risk like that, how many times do you think Greg drew shit out before??! All it takes is that one time to fuck your body up.....

Thank You!!! Am I the only one that thinks performing a procedure like that on yourself is f***ing retarded! What if you had a staff infection dude? You would be dead right now cause your afraid of what you doc will think....F*** your doctor and everyone else's personal opinions about AAS usage....Go to a professional and see whats wrong with your shoulder

Oh and by the way....when people drop dead from doing stuff like that the heat comes down on all of us........

[Krom]

I'm sure having thousands of doctor visits a year from bad injections brings on the heat also. Just use good judgement.

[lunny]

Doctors cant say shit to you or refuse to help you so the best thing to do is tell them. Especially so they know when prescribing you Medication or running tests...

[CountVascular]

Thank You!!! Am I the only one that thinks performing a procedure like that on yourself is f***ing retarded! What if you had a staff infection dude? You would be dead right now cause your afraid of what you doc will think....F*** your doctor and everyone else's personal opinions about AAS usage....Go to a professional and see whats wrong with your shoulder

Oh and by the way....when people drop dead from doing stuff like that the heat comes down on all of us........

getting quality employees is always a problem..a staff infection of note...:D:D

[musclehead33]

getting quality employees is always a problem..a staff infection of note...:D:D

you got that right.

[LeanMass17]

excuse me...Staph...you damn nerds

[mccollumstacy]

Everyone just cool down a tadd. I drew the fluid off over 3 days ago and its doing fine. Man - some of you guys are on the edge with the whole "situations like this brings heat down on us all" shit. I have been experimenting with aas for over 13 years and it had a bad rap back then to. Hint: anything illegal is subject to gaining unpopular votes from public opinion. Rest assured that my infection isn't going to shut down your pipeline supply from Alin - Nor is the next guy that you don't sincerely agree with. I have other reasons for not seeing a med for my shoulder problem - so we can leave it at that. I truly appreciate concerning individuals on this board - but some seem to use concern for an excuse to boast - if you will.

Tank - thanks - I may take you up on the scripts description later. I will write a few down tonight and post them tomm.

Just to clarify: I am alive and have worked out twice since my Major Surgery. Shit - I just wanted to know if any of you guys had it happen before - And the most of the advice came from those with no experience with it. Guys: This board is very informational - I have learned to ask questions when I am looking for an answer - and I post comments pertaining to experience I have. If I don't know the answer or have any experience with a subject - I don't post - but I keep reading.