Snorting powder???

[Interpol]

Just a quick question about it, haven't seen anyone ever discuss this and thought that it might interesting to hear responses.

Anyone have info on this, I did a semi-quick google search and came up emtpy handed? What would happen if I snorted a line of EQ powder instead of getting it all ready for injection? If I inhale it it is going to the bloodstream through the nose/lungs, similar to snorting recreational drugs, wouldn't it be easier than injecting it?

Obviously, injecting is still the preferred method, even with rec drugs injecting is FAR more of a rush (so I have heard, I have never shot anything yet).

[JILANI]

Yo, are you serious? :eek:

[Interpol]

Yo, are you serious? :eek:

Unfortunately, yes, I am.

[rAJJIN]

terrable Idea. Maybe one of the worst things Ive heard one consider here.
Do yourself and your family a favor and leave the "snorting" idea alone.

[tatteredxangelx]

if i get validation it works ill snort an Anapolan ... you fuckin pussies :-D

[Alin]

Just a quick question about it, haven't seen anyone ever discuss this and thought that it might interesting to hear responses.

Anyone have info on this, I did a semi-quick google search and came up emtpy handed? What would happen if I snorted a line of EQ powder instead of getting it all ready for injection? If I inhale it it is going to the bloodstream through the nose/lungs, similar to snorting recreational drugs, wouldn't it be easier than injecting it?

Obviously, injecting is still the preferred method, even with rec drugs injecting is FAR more of a rush (so I have heard, I have never shot anything yet).


Please dont do this.

[JILANI]

I feel compelled to respond to this yet again, dude just do it the old fashioned way...inject it..if you inhale or snort you will suffocate your brain, it will think you are drowning...this is a deadly consideration and anyone who tells you its ok is a ass...leave that thought alone a decsion like that may kill you.

[Tyrone]

Just don't do it OK.

[Interpol]

Well I read a nice article someone sent me about the East Germans taking some anabolics intra-nasally, and that was their preferred method of delivery in the 80s. They would especially take it pre-event, because of how fast the psychotropic effect of the drugs would kick in. I.E. aggressiveness, energy, etc. So imagine being a football player, and having a drug that enhanced energy and attitude and was out of your system after the game! I don't know, sounds like a good way to take orals if you ask me.

The nasal mucosa is the area of the nasal passages that extends from where the nostrils end to where the throat begins. It extends underneath the base of the brain and is highly permeable. It also provides a relatively large surface area compared to the sublingual mucosa. As is the case with the sublingual mucosa, certain substances (i.e. prohormones) can rapidly and efficiently absorb into the tissue and be transported into the circulation. This allows drugs to be administered in small dosages so they can circumvent the first pass liver degradation seen with straight oral administration. However, with intranasal administration, the rapidity and extent of absorption is greater than that of even sublinguals. This makes it the most bioavailable route for taking prohormones, short of injection.
Intranasal drugs are administered using a nasal pump applicator, which provides a small volume of liquid in a fine mist. The drug is dissolved or suspended in the fluid and the mist is directed up into the nasal mucosa by shoving the nasal applicator deep up into the nostrils, and simultaneously sniffing while depressing the pump applicator.
In the case of prohormones or steroids, the dosage can vary from 6 mg to 18mg at one time. This amount will be very efficiently absorbed; however, attempts to increase the one time dosage will probably not result in a substantial increase in amount absorbed. These dosages can be repeated every few hours, although daily administrations should be kept under 10 times to avoid nasal irritation




The practice of prohormone / steroid drug administration was most widely utilized and studied by the East Germans. Several patents for intranasal steroid administration were granted to Mattern and Hacker, the premier East German experts, after the collapse of the Iron Curtain. These include intranasal usage of androstenedione, testosterone, mestanolone, and Oral-Turinabolâ„¢ (dehydrochloromethyltestosterone), in other words, all the East German anabolic favorites. The East Germans instituted intranasal steroids in their athletic program after 1981, and up until 1989, intranasal androstenedione and testosterone were widely used by their athletes, primarily as pre-event drugs.
The East Germans thought highly of intranasal administration of androgenic steroids for several reasons. First of all, they found this mode of administration to be superior for harnessing the psychotropic effects of androgens. The term psychotropic, as it refers to androgens, describes the heightened mental alertness, ability to handle stress, and motor function (psychomotor) stimulation that is mediated by androgen receptors in the brain. Due to the proximity of the nasal passages to the base of the brain, the East Germans believed that absorption here maximized the passage of steroids through the blood brain barrier and into the cerebrospinal fluid where they can activate CNS androgen receptors.
This psychotropic effect of intranasal androgens is what made these the preferred choice for pre-event usage. According to the East German data, levels of steroids in the blood would maximize at 15 minutes and decline to baseline by 90 minutes. Levels in the CNS are probably elevated even sooner (seconds to minutes). Furthermore, with the usage of intranasal testosterone and androstenedione, the East Germans discovered that the ratio of urinary testosterone / epitestosterone were normalized within 24 hours, allowing them to pass post competition drug testing.

[kaelalden]

Well....
If you are going to do it, be careful and keep us updated.

[Rhandhular]

if i get validation it works ill snort an Anapolan ... you fuckin pussies :-D
Thats hilarious :D

[Interpol]

Ok, so my emphasis has switched from actually snorting powder to using an intranasal approach.

My theory is that with intranasal application of Oral TBol and of Anavar, that the daily dosage won't need to be as high due to bypassing at least one pass of the liver, and that liver stress will be reduced. It's my understanding that these are relatively easy on the liver as opposed to others, but using intranasal will hopefully alleviate even more stress on the liver.

Since the half life of Anavar is reported at 8-9 hours, I am thinking that dosing in the morning, afternoon, and evening would be best. OT has a longer half life, or so I have read, but dosing would probably be the same for ease of use.

The one thing that I am not sure of is how much more of the oral substance will be absorped as compared to using an ingestive approach. What is the rate of absorption for OT and Var when taken orally, and will it improve by using them intranasally?

The other concern is how many sprays will it take to get the right dose. I have seen nasal spray pumps that give .12 mL per spray, and the heaviest concentration I would be able to make and still be able to mist through the sprayer would be 50mg/mL. So every spray would be 5-6mg of AAS. So, two sprays in the morning, two at lunch, and two in the evening would give 30-36mg of AAS intranasally, and if the absorption rate is higher than orally it would compare to ingesting a considerable amount more, maybe in the 50-60mg range? Maybe using Var intranasally will alleviate the GI sides that many people seem to have on it since it would be going through the digestive tract anymore.

I don't know, it seems like a whole lot of "what ifs", I was just hoping that we had more experience with it.

[Interpol]

that just might burn.... a little.........

Actually, from what I have heard, it doesn't really irritate all that much when using HPBCD. I have read, however, that using powders with esters attached do burn, but base compounds do not. I guess I'll find out, it seems to be one of the easiest and cheapest ways to deliver orals other than using 151. Nasal pump sprays are about $1 apiece, and the HPBCD used as a transport is approx $20-30 for 250 grams. Ratio is supposed to be 9 to 1 of HPBCD to AAS, so 250 grams is enough for over 27 grams of AAS, therefor I doubt I'll run out of HPBCD. However, I will more than likely try a ratio with higher AAS to HPBCD in order to get the concentration up and reduce the amount of sprays involved. Just can't mix in too much because it starts getting too thick to go through the sprayer.

[Tyrone]

Ok, so my emphasis has switched from actually snorting powder to using an intranasal approach.

My theory is that with intranasal application of Oral TBol and of Anavar, that the daily dosage won't need to be as high due to bypassing at least one pass of the liver, and that liver stress will be reduced. It's my understanding that these are relatively easy on the liver as opposed to others, but using intranasal will hopefully alleviate even more stress on the liver.

Since the half life of Anavar is reported at 8-9 hours, I am thinking that dosing in the morning, afternoon, and evening would be best. OT has a longer half life, or so I have read, but dosing would probably be the same for ease of use.

The one thing that I am not sure of is how much more of the oral substance will be absorped as compared to using an ingestive approach. What is the rate of absorption for OT and Var when taken orally, and will it improve by using them intranasally?

The other concern is how many sprays will it take to get the right dose. I have seen nasal spray pumps that give .12 mL per spray, and the heaviest concentration I would be able to make and still be able to mist through the sprayer would be 50mg/mL. So every spray would be 5-6mg of AAS. So, two sprays in the morning, two at lunch, and two in the evening would give 30-36mg of AAS intranasally, and if the absorption rate is higher than orally it would compare to ingesting a considerable amount more, maybe in the 50-60mg range? Maybe using Var intranasally will alleviate the GI sides that many people seem to have on it since it would be going through the digestive tract anymore.

I don't know, it seems like a whole lot of "what ifs", I was just hoping that we had more experience with it.
I have taken anavar alone and didn't get one side. Espeacialy no GI sides. The only sides were strength and some size. Snorting anything seems like trying to get it in the system faster. I can only think that getting it in there faster is going to leave the system the same way(faster)

[Interpol]

I have taken anavar alone and didn't get one side. Espeacialy no GI sides. The only sides were strength and some size. Snorting anything seems like trying to get it in the system faster. I can only think that getting it in there faster is going to leave the system the same way(faster)

Yeah but the main benefit is absorption. You are skipping the digestive tract and going straight to the bloodstream. If more gets absorped, it means you can do the same thing (more strength and some size) with less anavar.

Just think about it, take something like primo for example, which is available as injectable or an oral, you have to take TWICE as much of the oral in order to get the same effects due to it passing the liver twice instead of once. If you were to take the oral primo intranasally you wouldn't have to use as much because you are getting it right into the bloodstream.

[tatteredxangelx]

sticking it up your ass would be an even faster absoption rate, and more potent ... Perssoanlly, id rather pop 3 anavars than stick 1 in my door, but to each his own. Give it a whirl interpol!

[moondog]

I believe my fear would be the AS entering into the lungs at a fast rate, with asmatics the type of steriod used would dialate the vaso system, if the AS of choice doing this nasally has a adverse effect on the vaso system one could be in for some breathing problems along with spike in heart rate, I could be totally of base, but i feel you could be entering a dangerous zone, I understand all your thoughts you have provided and they seem to be sound thoughts in nature, but we have to look at more than passing by the liver and absorbtion in the blood stream, for every action there is a reaction, We need to think hard and long about were there could be a reaction to our actions.