checking on the validity of what i was told

[allside02]

i was telling someone i know that i was about to buy a cycle (from alin)
12 weeks of sustanon at 500mg a week
12 weeks of deca at 400mg a week
weeks 1-4 50mg of Dbol everyday
PCT

and i was told that all this cycle would do is make me hold water and have water gains. i don't believe him. he told me to do this type of cycle.
sus 500mg a week
bold 100mg to 150 a week
win 100mg a week
deca 100mg a week

this doesn't sound like too good of cycle to me, but i wanted to see what you guys thought. thanks in advance.

[rontg]

i was telling someone i know that i was about to buy a cycle (from alin)
12 weeks of sustanon at 500mg a week
12 weeks of deca at 400mg a week
weeks 1-4 50mg of Dbol everyday
PCT

and i was told that all this cycle would do is make me hold water and have water gains. i don't believe him. he told me to do this type of cycle.
sus 500mg a week
bold 100mg to 150 a week
win 100mg a week
deca 100mg a week

this doesn't sound like too good of cycle to me, but i wanted to see what you guys thought. thanks in advance.

what are your goals, regardless deca 100mg is pretty innefective in my book. your cycle looks golden, his cycle looks like someone is trying to bulk and cut at the same time. you'll see great gains with your cycle if you eat and train properly

[Big Ted]

the first one obviously, the second doesnt look like a cycle to me

[allside02]

that's what i figured, thanks a lot

[allside02]

this is the exact cycle that alin offers that i was going to order;

8 Week Mens Bulking Cycle

WEEKS 1- 6: Methanabol 30mg Every Day
WEEKS 1- 8: Deca Durabolin 400mg Per Week
WEEKS 1- 8: Sustanon 750mg Per Week
WEEKS 1-10: Arimidex 0.25mg Every Day
WEEKS 1-10: HCG 300-500iu Every 4-5 Days

WEEK 11 : 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 12 : 30mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 13: 20mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid Every Day


this is a good one i think

[arnold jr]

Go with the cycle you have planned, the 2nd cycle is total bs.

Arnold jr.

[allside02]

arnold jr. the bulking cycle above? the only concern i have is the bloating and no abs because of the d-bol. any suggestions, if so what could i do since i am ordering this specific cycle kit from alin, or do i just keep the d-bol for later. thanks

[arnold jr]

arnold jr. the bulking cycle above? the only concern i have is the bloating and no abs because of the d-bol. any suggestions, if so what could i do since i am ordering this specific cycle kit from alin, or do i just keep the d-bol for later. thanks
The a-dex will help with the bloat and the sust will not bloat you nearly as much as test-e or cyp.

As far as the dbol, even with the a-dex you are still going to bloat somewhat, that's part of the nature of dbol. Personally I hate dbol and I've expressed my distaste on here many times. It bloats me beyond a point that is comfortable, and makes my extremely lethargic, but that's just me.

When I said go with the cycle kit I was doing so on the basis of the 2 cycles you laid out. If this was my cycle I wouldn't use the dbol and I'd run winny with the cycle in the later half. Winny has its place in a bulking cycle, and I've found it is great for solidifying gains. I would also bump duration up a bit. A lot of guys advocate shorter cycles, but personally I think 12wks is minimum for a quality cycle...especially when deca is involved because it takes so long for it to really kick in and get going.

Arnold jr.

[allside02]

ok, thanks, this was the best cycle that i found from alin that i liked the most, bulking wise, thanks, a lot

[JustBecause]

this is the exact cycle that alin offers that i was going to order;
8 Week Mens Bulking Cycle
WEEKS 1- 6: Methanabol 30mg Every Day
WEEKS 1- 8: Deca Durabolin 400mg Per Week
WEEKS 1- 8: Sustanon 750mg Per Week
WEEKS 1-10: Arimidex 0.25mg Every Day
WEEKS 1-10: HCG 300-500iu Every 4-5 Days
WEEK 11 : 40mg Nolva/100mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 12 : 30mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid Every Day
WEEK 13: 20mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid Every Day
this is a good one i think

So far, this is a good cycle...half way through and have noticeable gains and strength... :cool:

[Alin]

i was telling someone i know that i was about to buy a cycle (from alin)
12 weeks of sustanon at 500mg a week
12 weeks of deca at 400mg a week
weeks 1-4 50mg of Dbol everyday
PCT

and i was told that all this cycle would do is make me hold water and have water gains. i don't believe him. he told me to do this type of cycle.
sus 500mg a week
bold 100mg to 150 a week
win 100mg a week
deca 100mg a week

this doesn't sound like too good of cycle to me, but i wanted to see what you guys thought. thanks in advance.



Go with first cycle and use some Arimidex, this will help reduce bloat/water retention.

[Rhandhular]

Why are you worried about your abs if you want to bulk up? If you wanna get big ya gotta eat and eat alot. Its very hard to gain size on a clean diet.