Im going to make an appointment and tell my doctor

[No-Go]

Well i've decided to tell my doctor tommorow about my AAS usage and see if i can get BP,Cholestrol and Liver function tests, anyone think of any others?

I know doctors are meant to be confidential but i am pretty nervous even though he has been really cool before.Im trying to think of how to break the news and the reasons why i am doing it etc as im not an athlete?

Wish me luck :(

[The BB Monad]

Most doctors will crap you out but will help you in the best way they can. If he sees you're determined to carry on using he may even get you prescription drugs! :D

My doctor was shocked and said I was doping! He really wasn't happy about it. Afterwards he started giving me regular blood tests and even asked me if my source was trustable... Good luck bro!

[blackson]

If you feel comfortable telling your doctor then go for it, he might not agree with it but he will definetly help you out. Let us know how it goes.

[monkboy]

With ANY doctor, they are sworn to secrecy, like a priest in a confessional. While the priest may hear someone say they murdered their wife, they cannot reveal, even if face to face, the identity nor information disclosed. This comes from the Vatican, and they never finked anyone out. They will ask that you turn yourself in, and if you refuse, you will not be absolved of the sin of murder.

Now, on the other hand, the doctor is similar, but he cannot, under any circumstancs, say a word to anyone or refuse to treat you.

A friend of mine is very open with his doc about his steroids. The doctor simply monitors his functions, as you'll request for yourself. It's their hippocratic oath to help. They cannot refuse. If they do, you can fuck with their license, and they ain't gonna let you do that. Med school takes WAY too long to be stripped over something stupid. You'll have your doctor's full cooperation, trust me.

This is a very open, healthy move for you, and I'd encourage everyone to follow suit if you fear anything. Nothing in this world is as important than your health. When I was 20, I could fall from the garage roof and then go lift. Now that I am 40, shit just starts fallin' apart.

Maintain your body at all costs.

M

[golden_arm]

I understand some doc's will put it on your record/chart, and that can be big trouble when your insurance company finds out. All of a sudden anything that happens to you down the road (i.e. heart attack, stroke, etc.) is due to your steroid usage and not covered. Not such a big prob for me, being Canadian with public health care, but in the states with private health care...of course you cant put a price on your life. Goodluck brother!

[CountVascular]

With ANY doctor, they are sworn to secrecy, like a priest in a confessional. While the priest may hear someone say they murdered their wife, they cannot reveal, even if face to face, the identity nor information disclosed. This comes from the Vatican, and they never finked anyone out. They will ask that you turn yourself in, and if you refuse, you will not be absolved of the sin of murder.

Now, on the other hand, the doctor is similar, but he cannot, under any circumstancs, say a word to anyone or refuse to treat you.

A friend of mine is very open with his doc about his steroids. The doctor simply monitors his functions, as you'll request for yourself. It's their hippocratic oath to help. They cannot refuse. If they do, you can fuck with their license, and they ain't gonna let you do that. Med school takes WAY too long to be stripped over something stupid. You'll have your doctor's full cooperation, trust me.

This is a very open, healthy move for you, and I'd encourage everyone to follow suit if you fear anything. Nothing in this world is as important than your health. When I was 20, I could fall from the garage roof and then go lift. Now that I am 40, shit just starts fallin' apart.

Maintain your body at all costs.

M

yeah, like the catholic church is a beacon of morality!!! they dont shop you in to the police coz they toooo busy committing other sins if you know what I mean.........:D

[bulldawg305]

If you end up asking him make sure you let us know how it goes. Good luck!

[juced_porkchop]

Your life insurence can get fuked up, dont tell him. Don't even risk it.
why u have to tell him? you just ask for tests thats it he can't say no. You dont need tell him shit and if u want to be nice about it just tell him you just want to be safe.!!!

[monkboy]

I didn't realize the ramifications of insurance. Was a stupid oversight. Am so sorry. Tread carefully. God, insurance companies SUCK.

M

[made402]

Or you could go here www.directlabs.com and get the order for blood work for 89 bucks.

[No-Go]

In the Uk we don't have insurance,its all provided by the tax's we pay in our wages

[danneh]

Maybe the only thing good to come out of taxes, yet the NHS is still fucked up!

[da-sol]

Or you could go here www.directlabs.com and get the order for blood work for 89 bucks.

Very nice service but they don't have any offices in the NJ, NY, CT area. Too bad.

[Skrillz]

The thing that you need to be careful about is that your AAS use does not go on your medical records. If it does, and the underwriters for the insurance company pull your medical records for life insurance coverage then they could possibly deny you coverage. However, underwriters only pull medical records when the face value (payout if you die) is $100k or greater. At the same time, if you are applying for life insurance that has a face value of over 100k then they will also run EKG's (heart) and take urine samples to make sure you don't have any glucose in your urine (diabetes), or illegal drugs in your system. Whether or not they test for AAS i do not know, but i do know that on the application for large life insurance policies that it mentions nothing about steriods. Now if your Doctor puts your AAS use on your medical records then it could possibly have a negative impact on whether or not you are approved for coverage, but the physical exam will have a big impact as well. Under no circumstances should you EVER mention your AAS use to an insurance agent because they are required to disclose EVERYTHING that you disclose to them. Although your DR. is legally obligated to your privacy, he can put your AAS use in your records. Now health insurance is a little different than life insurance because of the fact that in the USA most health insurance is provided through your employer. With your health insurance coverage through your emplyer you are GUARANTEED coverage, however there may be a rider (an addendum that is added to a policy) that may limit coverage for any pre-existing conditions (health problems that you had previous to coverage that require ongoing treatments. In most cases these are limited to chronic conditions, or conditions that you will have for the rest of your life.i.e. parkinsons, diabetes, memory loss, arthritis etc...) So in your question you asked if you should tell your DR... What i would do is explain your situation that you have used AAS to help you recover from an injury or because you were symptoms that you are having that could be caused by low test levels. Have him test your kidney function and do all other relative tests to make sure your body is working properly. If you are off-cycle right now then have him test you Free Test levels as well and he might even perscribe you TRT. TRT is not something that will cause you to be denied life insurance coverage, that is unless it causes you severe depression that requires anti-depressants. At that point they will deny you because of depression not the TRT. Good luck, i hop this helps a little. If you have any questions about insurance coverage let me know, I was an Licensed Life, Accident, Health and Property & Casualty Insurance agent for a number of years.

[ROCK157]

The thing that you need to be careful about is that your AAS use does not go on your medical records. If it does, and the underwriters for the insurance company pull your medical records for life insurance coverage then they could possibly deny you coverage. However, underwriters only pull medical records when the face value (payout if you die) is $100k or greater. At the same time, if you are applying for life insurance that has a face value of over 100k then they will also run EKG's (heart) and take urine samples to make sure you don't have any glucose in your urine (diabetes), or illegal drugs in your system. Whether or not they test for AAS i do not know, but i do know that on the application for large life insurance policies that it mentions nothing about steriods. Now if your Doctor puts your AAS use on your medical records then it could possibly have a negative impact on whether or not you are approved for coverage, but the physical exam will have a big impact as well. Under no circumstances should you EVER mention your AAS use to an insurance agent because they are required to disclose EVERYTHING that you disclose to them. Although your DR. is legally obligated to your privacy, he can put your AAS use in your records. Now health insurance is a little different than life insurance because of the fact that in the USA most health insurance is provided through your employer. With your health insurance coverage through your emplyer you are GUARANTEED coverage, however there may be a rider (an addendum that is added to a policy) that may limit coverage for any pre-existing conditions (health problems that you had previous to coverage that require ongoing treatments. In most cases these are limited to chronic conditions, or conditions that you will have for the rest of your life.i.e. parkinsons, diabetes, memory loss, arthritis etc...) So in your question you asked if you should tell your DR... What i would do is explain your situation that you have used AAS to help you recover from an injury or because you were symptoms that you are having that could be caused by low test levels. Have him test your kidney function and do all other relative tests to make sure your body is working properly. If you are off-cycle right now then have him test you Free Test levels as well and he might even perscribe you TRT. TRT is not something that will cause you to be denied life insurance coverage, that is unless it causes you severe depression that requires anti-depressants. At that point they will deny you because of depression not the TRT. Good luck, i hop this helps a little. If you have any questions about insurance coverage let me know, I was an Licensed Life, Accident, Health and Property & Casualty Insurance agent for a number of years. Good point! Very interesting!!

[monkboy]

Is it possible to request the doctor not record the information lest it harm your insurance?

[No-Go]

Did anyone read my last post?

[deepblue]

The thing that you need to be careful about is that your AAS use does not go on your medical records. If it does, and the underwriters for the insurance company pull your medical records for life insurance coverage then they could possibly deny you coverage. However, underwriters only pull medical records when the face value (payout if you die) is $100k or greater. At the same time, if you are applying for life insurance that has a face value of over 100k then they will also run EKG's (heart) and take urine samples to make sure you don't have any glucose in your urine (diabetes), or illegal drugs in your system. Whether or not they test for AAS i do not know, but i do know that on the application for large life insurance policies that it mentions nothing about steriods. Now if your Doctor puts your AAS use on your medical records then it could possibly have a negative impact on whether or not you are approved for coverage, but the physical exam will have a big impact as well. Under no circumstances should you EVER mention your AAS use to an insurance agent because they are required to disclose EVERYTHING that you disclose to them. Although your DR. is legally obligated to your privacy, he can put your AAS use in your records. Now health insurance is a little different than life insurance because of the fact that in the USA most health insurance is provided through your employer. With your health insurance coverage through your emplyer you are GUARANTEED coverage, however there may be a rider (an addendum that is added to a policy) that may limit coverage for any pre-existing conditions (health problems that you had previous to coverage that require ongoing treatments. In most cases these are limited to chronic conditions, or conditions that you will have for the rest of your life.i.e. parkinsons, diabetes, memory loss, arthritis etc...) So in your question you asked if you should tell your DR... What i would do is explain your situation that you have used AAS to help you recover from an injury or because you were symptoms that you are having that could be caused by low test levels. Have him test your kidney function and do all other relative tests to make sure your body is working properly. If you are off-cycle right now then have him test you Free Test levels as well and he might even perscribe you TRT. TRT is not something that will cause you to be denied life insurance coverage, that is unless it causes you severe depression that requires anti-depressants. At that point they will deny you because of depression not the TRT. Good luck, i hop this helps a little. If you have any questions about insurance coverage let me know, I was an Licensed Life, Accident, Health and Property & Casualty Insurance agent for a number of years.Skrillz dam good point you read my mind.I think you would be fucking setting your self up if you tell them about aas.They will use that down the road againts you so they will not have to cover something that goes wrong with you later.Just watch Sicko before you make that decision.Good Luck (dont dont dont do it):eek::eek::eek::eek:

[Skrillz]

Did anyone read my last post?


If i am correct No-Go, in the UK DR's do not have the patient/doctor priviledge (privacy rights) that they have here in the USA. I may be wrong, but in the UK doctors are REQUIRED to report ANY illegal activity, including any level of drug and AAS use, by any individual. If that is the case then DO NOT tell your DR, UNLESS you are sure that he will help you and not hurt you. The issue here is not about qualifying for insurance because you already have it and it's provided by the taxes you pay, rather its whether you are safe telling your DR. Maybe someone with more experience in UK rights/laws could chime in. The bottom line is that if you want your DR to help you and if you are that concerned about your health then you have to be honest and tell him. As long as you're not strung out on drugs and impacting others in a negative way and you are making educated decisions for yourself, then i think you will be fine. DR's are reasonable and understand the many benefits of using AAS so go in there with the attitude that you have done countless hours of research into your decision to use AAS, and you are taking ALL necessary precautions to ensure that you do not harm your body, which is WHY you are asking that these tests be done. I think the DR will see this as you being responsible and will help you out without having any negative ramifications.

[deepblue]

My advice was strictly for u.s.a. only.

[steak]

[QUOTE=No-Go;125416]Well i've decided to tell my doctor tommorow about my AAS usage and see if i can get BP,Cholestrol and Liver function tests, anyone think of any others?

I know doctors are meant to be confidential but i am pretty nervous even though he has been really cool before.Im trying to think of how to break the news and the reasons why i am doing it etc as im not an athlete?

Wish me luck :(

You said you live in the Uk as police officer. Well doesnt it going to affect your carrer? My second question is that your doctor will put it on the database, so when you decide to get an insurance cover, the insurer will have an access to your medical report. Do you think they will offer you one?
I had a blood test done last week, as I had a high BP and RHR, and asked my doctor to do a blood test (cholesterol, liver, kidneys). He asked me if I was on the gear...:D

[Theatrix]

In my view, you don't tell unless you don't intend to use again, or if the Doc is a friend. Preferrably, find a Doc who is a friend. Half of my friends are Doc's and I am open with them. It's interesting to hear them discuss something they no nothing about other than the propaganda they have heard.
They are however, very aware of what may be causing your levels to spike, espectially when they look at you (assuming you have size)! I once went to my GP and requested my levels done and this young new Doc lasered right in on questions dealing with AAS. At that point, I denied, denied and denied because I was concerned about this information getting to my Health Insur. carrier. I immediately changed my primary to another Doc who I knew. Now when I need panels done, I just call him and he sends me the form in the mail.
My point here would be to avoid disclosing this information, unless you know you can trust him not to forward to your provider. As an Allstate Agency owner, I'm very familiar with the damage that it could cause.

[Alin]

Well i've decided to tell my doctor tommorow about my AAS usage and see if i can get BP,Cholestrol and Liver function tests, anyone think of any others?

I know doctors are meant to be confidential but i am pretty nervous even though he has been really cool before.Im trying to think of how to break the news and the reasons why i am doing it etc as im not an athlete?

Wish me luck :(

Be careful,,,doctors chart your information and insurance companies have access to these charts. You never know when they could deny some type of coverage due to your admitted AAS use.

[abadseal]

Think twice about it. I've told about 4 doctors and 1 ER doctor and all tried to make me feel like I molested a child. When I delve into it and picked their knowledge base to pieces they all came back with just about the same response. "Your going to get angry one day and do something very foolish". At that I was pretty much speechless and done talking anyway.

P.S. Juiced Porkchop, who is that in your avatar?

[advanracing62]

I told my DR. and he's charting it "creatively"- I had low test to start based on the blood work- so my AAS should be interesting on my next blood work.

[ojs]

Well i've decided to tell my doctor tommorow about my AAS usage and see if i can get BP,Cholestrol and Liver function tests, anyone think of any others?

I know doctors are meant to be confidential but i am pretty nervous even though he has been really cool before.Im trying to think of how to break the news and the reasons why i am doing it etc as im not an athlete?

Wish me luck :(
Add PSA (prostate values) to the the test list. I don't think high PSA values and high testosterone dosages mix so well.

*You might ask "If" you decide to use AAS, would he be willing to oversee your blood work discretely.