6 weeker

[wumba]

Next time I get on, around the beginning of february, I am thinking of doing 2 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off cycle in between the 2. Something like:

Test prop 1-6
NPP 1-6

wk 7-12 off

test prop 13-18
tren ace 13-18
masteron 13-18

This seems fairly logical to me, because I plan to eat like a maniac the first 6 weeks then try to shape up in the off time before the real cutter. Looking for some opinions on how to make it better or if I got the wrong idea on this. Just in the groundwork of putting the next cycle together.

[fattcat]

sounds like something id like to try.make sure you post your results.Not sure about the off time though.I would run the test all the way through. Will you be running a pct?Or any t-3 with the tren?

[espskillz]

what are you planning to run durning week 7-12 maybe some hcg?

[wumba]

just standard PCT for 3 weeks, dont have to wait because of the prop..maybe clen 2 on 2 off so I can hit it twice before the next cycle.

[SwoleTexasKid]

hmm....If it was me I would not take the break but just run this right through. Dont you think five weeks is a little lengthy? I would atleast keep some test in me.

[DEADBOLT]

Next time I get on, around the beginning of february, I am thinking of doing 2 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off cycle in between the 2. Something like:

Test prop 1-6
NPP 1-6

wk 7-12 off

test prop 13-18
tren ace 13-18
masteron 13-18

This seems fairly logical to me, because I plan to eat like a maniac the first 6 weeks then try to shape up in the off time before the real cutter. Looking for some opinions on how to make it better or if I got the wrong idea on this. Just in the groundwork of putting the next cycle together.

adding an Oral to the mix might be wise seeing it's such a short cycle and orals have a more pronounced immediate effect.

[anhuka]

why stay 6 wk off? with 3 of pct that´s only 3 off... what´s the point ?

[wumba]

adding an Oral to the mix might be wise seeing it's such a short cycle and orals have a more pronounced immediate effect.

What orals do you think would work? Winstrol would be on the 2nd part if I add one, but what about the first leg. Something other than dbol.

why stay 6 wk off? with 3 of pct that´s only 3 off... what´s the point ?

Thats why I'm looking for opinions on this. Since I would be running prop and all short estered compounds it seems like 6 weeks would get benefit.

[wumba]

hmm....If it was me I would not take the break but just run this right through. Dont you think five weeks is a little lengthy? I would atleast keep some test in me.

If you mean 5 weeks is a little long for a break, I was just trying to go with time on=time off. Since it's not too long I would be ok doing it.

[anhuka]

oral you have turinabol or anavar ...

i doubt that your htpa funcion would get to normal values in 3 weeks ... you should give more time or dont give any... and it´s better to do a 12 week only cycle than shut down htpa try to recover than shut down again

[advanracing62]

I concur with the above- would be wise to run something extra...

[The BB Monad]

Turinabol would be a nice add.

As for the rest I all for what has been said. Either lengthen the pause or just go straight through.

[alphaj]

[QUOTE=wumba;122572]
Test prop 1-6
NPP 1-6

wk 7-12 off

test prop 13-18
tren ace 13-18
masteron 13-18

[QUOTE]

I would run a little lower test amount(ie. 150mg eod down to 75mg eod)and use the other two compunds as boosters so to speak.Id also more then likely trim it down to 16 weeks at the longest.
So:
Week 1-4 prop/npp
Week 5-8 prop at a lower amount
Week 8-12 prop(back up to higher amount)/tren/mast.
pct week 13-16

[Deepsea10]

I wouldn't take a break. I would run the cycle straight through.. And then do a proper PCT.

[SwoleTexasKid]

oral you have turinabol or anavar ...

i doubt that your htpa funcion would get to normal values in 3 weeks ... you should give more time or dont give any... and it´s better to do a 12 week only cycle than shut down htpa try to recover than shut down again

My thoughts exactly.

[drob29]

hmm....If it was me I would not take the break but just run this right through. Dont you think five weeks is a little lengthy? I would atleast keep some test in me.

If you mean 5 weeks is a little long for a break, I was just trying to go with time on=time off. Since it's not too long I would be ok doing it.

I think you will crash hard without either a quickie two week nolva clomid PCT or running say 150-200 mg test on the off weeks.

Another thing I wonder is acne wise, you could be a mess. For me the first few weeks on cycle I always break out more before my body finds a balance, same thing when I come off. That cycle would leave me looking like pepperoni pizza.

[wumba]

I just want you all to keep in mind guys, this is something i just thought of for the next cycle so I'm feeling out the opinions.

I think you will crash hard without either a quickie two week nolva clomid PCT or running say 150-200 mg test on the off weeks.

Another thing I wonder is acne wise, you could be a mess. For me the first few weeks on cycle I always break out more before my body finds a balance, same thing when I come off. That cycle would leave me looking like pepperoni pizza.

I would run a quick pct cycle, I've had success just running it for 2 weeks. And the acne never gets too bad for me considering I break out naturally.

[abadseal]

There's nothing wrong with experimentation unless of course it's plain asinine. I myself went against most people's advice and tried a 5 week cycle last year and I will never go back to anything longer. Gained a solid lean 21 lbs in 5 weeks. Ended up keeping 85%. Absolutely ZERO crash and I mean nothing. I couldn't tell the difference from being on and 10 weeks later being off. Helped my strength levels jump astronomically(which wasn't too subtle at the gym in a short time period) but whatever. Plus if you plan on doing multiple cycles throughout the year technically you can run more with shorter cycles because the recovery time is shorter. Think of it kinda like DC training only with gear. More Mg's and longer cycle length isn't always better just like more volume and longer workout are always more beneficial. I used the same compounds you're planning. Looked liked this.

Test prop-100 mg
Tren Ace- 100 mg
Mast prop-100 mg

All shot EOD for 5 weeks.

[soldierb11]

There's nothing wrong with experimentation unless of course it's plain asinine. I myself went against most people's advice and tried a 5 week cycle last year and I will never go back to anything longer. Gained a solid lean 21 lbs in 5 weeks. Ended up keeping 85%. Absolutely ZERO crash and I mean nothing. I couldn't tell the difference from being on and 10 weeks later being off. Helped my strength levels jump astronomically(which wasn't too subtle at the gym in a short time period) but whatever. Plus if you plan on doing multiple cycles throughout the year technically you can run more with shorter cycles because the recovery time is shorter. Think of it kinda like DC training only with gear. More Mg's and longer cycle length isn't always better just like more volume and longer workout are always more beneficial. I used the same compounds you're planning. Looked liked this.

Test prop-100 mg
Tren Ace- 100 mg
Mast prop-100 mg

All shot EOD for 5 weeks.

I like your thinking, I might try this for my next cycle

[wumba]

Now its getting more support. Since you had no crash after the 5 weeker how long did you wait till your next cycle?

[abadseal]

Now its getting more support. Since you had no crash after the 5 weeker how long did you wait till your next cycle?

3 months then another 5 weeker with the same excellent results. Have been clean since which is about 8 months.

[wumba]

just bumpin this back up for a question...if i run prop tren and masteron as the cutter, would winstrol be overkill?

[musclemd]

I like your thinking, I might try this for my next cycle


Im thinking the same thing

[lunny]

just bumpin this back up for a question...if i run prop tren and masteron as the cutter, would winstrol be overkill?

no real point bro!!! you will do just fine without it :)

[tomcat1]

just bumpin this back up for a question...if i run prop tren and masteron as the cutter, would winstrol be overkill?

Instead of running two compound together that do basically the same thing then why not drop one of them instead and introduce the winny. Do more research

[cpesloco]

There's nothing wrong with experimentation unless of course it's plain asinine. I myself went against most people's advice and tried a 5 week cycle last year and I will never go back to anything longer. Gained a solid lean 21 lbs in 5 weeks. Ended up keeping 85%. Absolutely ZERO crash and I mean nothing. I couldn't tell the difference from being on and 10 weeks later being off. Helped my strength levels jump astronomically(which wasn't too subtle at the gym in a short time period) but whatever. Plus if you plan on doing multiple cycles throughout the year technically you can run more with shorter cycles because the recovery time is shorter. Think of it kinda like DC training only with gear. More Mg's and longer cycle length isn't always better just like more volume and longer workout are always more beneficial. I used the same compounds you're planning. Looked liked this.

Test prop-100 mg
Tren Ace- 100 mg
Mast prop-100 mg

All shot EOD for 5 weeks.

so what type and how long did you run PCT. Also why did you take off 3 months after the first cycle?

curious cause i am contemplating on running this cycle.

[abadseal]

so what type and how long did you run PCT. Also why did you take off 3 months after the first cycle?

curious cause i am contemplating on running this cycle.

Arimidex .25 mg's EOD while on and Novla at 40mg's starting first week of PCT, then 30mg following week, then 20 mg for the last week. That's all.

I took a while off because I try to only use gear as a plateau buster and not as a habit or necessity.

[Alin]

Next time I get on, around the beginning of february, I am thinking of doing 2 6 week cycles with 6 weeks off cycle in between the 2. Something like:

Test prop 1-6
NPP 1-6

wk 7-12 off

test prop 13-18
tren ace 13-18
masteron 13-18

This seems fairly logical to me, because I plan to eat like a maniac the first 6 weeks then try to shape up in the off time before the real cutter. Looking for some opinions on how to make it better or if I got the wrong idea on this. Just in the groundwork of putting the next cycle together.




Ive personally not had good luck with the shorter cycles. I need at least 8 wks MIN.

[wumba]

Instead of running two compound together that do basically the same thing then why not drop one of them instead and introduce the winny. Do more research

I've run the two of them together and had great results. And from reading on here it seems LOTS of people like this combination

[wumba]

Ive personally not had good luck with the shorter cycles. I need at least 8 wks MIN.

yeah could end up combining them still have to decide.

[No-Go]

I have been planning on running a short 6 week sust cycle with EOD shots for higher test levels. I plan on taking an 8-12 week off time though then hit it again with another 6 weeker

[tomcat1]

I've run the two of them together and had great results. And from reading on here it seems LOTS of people like this combination

They're both androgenic hardeners, but if you think then go for it just wouldn'y have been my choice I think you only need one. Make sure you get propper PCT after.

[wumba]

Tren gives better strength gains and masteron acts as anti-e so they work very well together.

[tomcat1]

Tren gives better strength gains and masteron acts as anti-e so they work very well together.

Tren gyno is different bro, thats what cagergoline is for but thats a whole other subject. Don't go above 300mg tren per week, ideally 200mg every five days and you should be fine with not Tren Gyno.

I would have said either take tren and put an anabolic like; anavar, winstrol, furazabol, pimo with it and a low dose pro viron as tren makes some people impotent.

Proviron is basically the same compound as Masteron so ideally then I's use masteron at low dose and add a nice anabolic as above, preferably anavar at 40mg per day and you have a real effective stack. :)

[wumba]

Tren gyno is different bro, thats what cagergoline is for but thats a whole other subject. Don't go above 300mg tren per week, ideally 200mg every five days and you should be fine with not Tren Gyno.



I know this man. I've run the tren before and used cabergoline, but masteron is a good anti-e since i would never run masteron nor tren without some test going on as well. So thats where the masteron is effective

[tomcat1]

o you got test aswell, you didn't say that before


wow thats alot of androgens bro! the masteron will certainly bring out the best in the test and push down the estrogen from aromatization. Just seems unbalanced and pretty serious stuff, that much androgen would do my head in.

[wumba]

I said i would be running prop in my initial post. And the last cycle I just came off of was test tren and masteron and I loved it. A little bluesy when I came off but loved it on.