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BONECRUSHER
11-27-2007, 04:35 PM
HEY GUYS I JUST FINISHED MY FIRST CYCLE 1ML ST A WEEK FOR TEN WEEKS
GOT SOME DECENT RESULTS. I HAVE NOVA AND SOME CLOMID ,MY QUESTION IS DO I WAIT 2 WEEKS AFTER LAST INJECTION TO START PCT OR DO I START RIGHT AWAY . AND WHAT DOSES AND HOW LONG . ANY INPUT WOULD BE APPRECIATED.

Hockey265
11-27-2007, 04:46 PM
Different people will tell you different things. I always wait two weeks after last injection to start pct. With the cycle you ran I doubt you need any HCG. Just tick to the clomid and Nolva.

golden_arm
11-27-2007, 04:50 PM
it all depends on the halflife of the longest ester you injected, so for Cyp and enanthate it works out to two weeks, but for prop its only a few days. Unfortunately Im unfamiliar with supertest, so I dunno what esters its made up with

golden_arm
11-27-2007, 04:52 PM
just did some quick research, supertest has Testosterone Decanoate, so id give it 3 weeks

BONECRUSHER
11-27-2007, 06:39 PM
HEY THANKS FOR THE ADVICE ANY THOUGHTS ON DOSAGE 20MG NOVA A DAY SOUND RIGHT? CLOMID?

golden_arm
11-27-2007, 06:41 PM
Day 1 - Clomid 200mg + Nolvadex 40mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg + Nolvadex 20mg
Following 10 days - Clomid 50mg or Nolvadex 20mg

BONECRUSHER
11-27-2007, 07:21 PM
THANKS GOLDEN . WHAT ARE YOUR THOGHTS ON TIME IN TILL I CAN DO NEXT CYCLE SAFELY. THANX BRO FOR YOUR TIME

Hockey265
11-27-2007, 07:27 PM
THANKS GOLDEN . WHAT ARE YOUR THOGHTS ON TIME IN TILL I CAN DO NEXT CYCLE SAFELY. THANX BRO FOR YOUR TIME
I always follow a cycle with at least 3 months off. Of course it all depends on your previous cycle, goals, experience, etc. I'm sure other people with chime in with their thoughts.

golden_arm
11-27-2007, 07:33 PM
yeah, general rule is time off aas should equal time spent on aas.

SwollInTexas
11-27-2007, 07:49 PM
just did some quick research, supertest has Testosterone Decanoate, so id give it 3 weeks

Nah no way bro 3 weeks is too long

I start it ten days after last injection, but you can go 2 weeks with ST bc it has Test C

golden_arm
11-27-2007, 08:28 PM
the Decanoate ester has a halflife of 15 days, Cyp 12 days. Your test levels will approach what they were naturally about 3 weeks after last shot (which is best time to begin PCT), give or take a couple days based on dose.

golden_arm
11-27-2007, 08:30 PM
If he were running straight test cyp, I would say 2 weeks, but ST has the Decanoate ester aswell.

BONECRUSHER
11-28-2007, 01:39 PM
I GUESS ILL JUST WAIT ABOUT 2 AND A HALF WEEKS SINCE SOME SAY 2 WEEKS AND GOLD SAYS 3

BONECRUSHER
11-28-2007, 02:03 PM
SO I SHOULD TAKE 10 WEEKS OFF LAST INJECTION OR TEN WEEKS AFTER FINISH OF PCT?

drob29
11-28-2007, 02:10 PM
HEY THANKS FOR THE ADVICE ANY THOUGHTS ON DOSAGE 20MG NOVA A DAY SOUND RIGHT? CLOMID?

THANKS GOLDEN . WHAT ARE YOUR THOGHTS ON TIME IN TILL I CAN DO NEXT CYCLE SAFELY. THANX BRO FOR YOUR TIME

I GUESS ILL JUST WAIT ABOUT 2 AND A HALF WEEKS SINCE SOME SAY 2 WEEKS AND GOLD SAYS 3

SO I SHOULD TAKE 10 WEEKS OFF LAST INJECTION OR TEN WEEKS AFTER FINISH OF PCT?

nothing like doing some actual research on your own there bud, as opposed to sitting the the highchair waiting for the next spoonfull of help....

for christ sake USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, or actually read up in the PCT forum. Every question you asked has already been answered, debated, disected, and resolved

BONECRUSHER
11-28-2007, 02:43 PM
I DID MY RESEARCH TRUST ME I THOUGHT THATS WHAT THE BOARD WAS FOR TO GET OTHER PEOPLES OPINION AS YOU CAN SEE EVERYBODY HAS ONE AND THERE NOT ALWAYS THE SAME. THANKS FOR YOUR NON HELP DROBY

LeanMass17
12-02-2007, 05:36 PM
hahaha...I agree with Gold, I would wait three weeks for PCT. However I think 200mg of Clomid is neither neccessary no effective, 100mg/day for the first week will do and 50mg per day for the other two weeks. Your decision though. Next cycle i would look into using HCG every 4-5 days while on cycle at 250-500IUs

golden_arm
12-02-2007, 05:43 PM
hahaha...I agree with Gold, I would wait three weeks for PCT. However I think 200mg of Clomid is neither neccessary no effective, 100mg/day for the first week will do and 50mg per day for the other two weeks. Your decision though. Next cycle i would look into using HCG every 4-5 days while on cycle at 250-500IUs

brother if you look carefully the 200mg is only for day one :cool:

lola26
12-02-2007, 05:43 PM
nothing like doing some actual research on your own there bud, as opposed to sitting the the highchair waiting for the next spoonfull of help....

for christ sake USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, or actually read up in the PCT forum. Every question you asked has already been answered, debated, disected, and resolved

bump the shit out of this. also, dont you think it is smart to know what the fuck is going on prior to your cycle instead of "winging it"!

LeanMass17
12-02-2007, 05:57 PM
brother if you look carefully the 200mg is only for day one :cool:

excuse my ignorance

golden_arm
12-02-2007, 06:38 PM
excuse my ignorance

lol, np brother. Its there incase your androgen levels are still a bit above baseline, youll need that 200mg to get the gears of natty tes production in motion again. :cool:

Jays-gonna-get-huge
12-02-2007, 07:37 PM
nothing like doing some actual research on your own there bud, as opposed to sitting the the highchair waiting for the next spoonfull of help....

for christ sake USE THE SEARCH BUTTON, or actually read up in the PCT forum. Every question you asked has already been answered, debated, disected, and resolved

bump this...............and add that the research should've been done way before you started your cycle!!

pewntang
12-04-2007, 10:56 AM
2 weeks .... even if it has deconate in the mix it should be almost clear ...

golden_arm
12-04-2007, 04:24 PM
2 weeks .... even if it has deconate in the mix it should be almost clear ...

incorrect, see my earlier post..

the Decanoate ester has a halflife of 15 days, Cyp 12 days. Your test levels will approach what they were naturally about 3 weeks after last shot (which is best time to begin PCT), give or take a couple days based on dose.

If you take the time to actually crunch the numbers, and understand what a 'half-life' is, you will see what I mean.