Tren A/Test Prop cycle

[mmafighter6]

This is gonna be my second cycle, and i was wondering if anybody could give me some input on it:
Wk 1-8 Tren Acetate - 100mg/EOD
Wk 1-8 Test Propionate - 150mg/EOD
Wk 1-8 .25mg Arimidex ED
Wk 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED
wk 9-11 Nolvadex+Clomid 3wk PCT

I was wondering if those doses and cycle duration seem right, and if i should use an oral kickstart with this cycle and which one, or not because its all fast acting esters. And i was also wondering about Alin's Stealth injectables, they seem cheaper and easier to get through customs but i keep hearing the injections always have problems with pain and absesses, should i go with the stealth satchets for tren a and test prop?? Any help on this would be much appretiated.

[katsumoto]

That's what I'm usin at the moment. 1ml of tren acetate and 1ml of propionate mon,tues,thurs n fri. I'm not usin any arimidex and I suggest you dont either coz you dont need it with these two. you're only wasting your arimidex,save it for another course. nolva is fine and I only use it 20mg every 2days. definitely no water bloat etc... cutting up nicely and strength is unreal. I'm usin balkan Pharma products,top notch and no probs. I'm also usin winny tabs @50mg/day for 6wks,all BP. hope this helps dude!

[crfpilot14]

looks fine...add in masteron 100mg eod and drop the nolva during the cycle. Keep the adex. You will love this cycle...I would add in cabergoline at 0.5mg e3d.

[sTaTic]

Using tren for a second cycle isn't wise. I mean you will do what you want and you know your body but I would not recommend it. I would wait a bit. The thing that kills me is that all the new guys think that adding more chemicals to their cycles is going to do a better job. I personally would continue using the basics until you get some cycles under your belt.

[Tyrone]

Using tren for a second cycle isn't wise. I mean you will do what you want and you know your body but I would not recommend it. I would wait a bit. The thing that kills me is that all the new guys think that adding more chemicals to their cycles is going to do a better job. I personally would continue using the basics until you get some cycles under your belt.

Agreed, trenablone is something you'd save for when you "know" wtf is going on with your body not only in conjunction with basic compounds but naturally as well.

[mmafighter6]

well yeah i know it seems a little advanced for a second cycle, but I was recommended this by a guy who's been using aas for about 5 years, this motherfucker is about 240 and 7% body fat so i dont think he'd steer me too wrong on this lol.

[katsumoto]

excuse my ignorance on the subject guys....but what is Cabergoline??

[katsumoto]

oooooh tren on a second cycle aint good grasshopper. would save that for a couple of cycles later,get used to the test first. Personally I'd use deca for 2nd cycle and I have done many moons ago! I still have the same waist size(36'') 5yrs and 265lbs later.

[crfpilot14]

I agree with Static and Tyrone, however, people will do what they will and they will learn the hard way about these things.

[blackson]

Just run Prop and Masteron, you'll get awesome results.

[Alin]

This is gonna be my second cycle, and i was wondering if anybody could give me some input on it:
Wk 1-8 Tren Acetate - 100mg/EOD
Wk 1-8 Test Propionate - 150mg/EOD
Wk 1-8 .25mg Arimidex ED
Wk 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED
wk 9-11 Nolvadex+Clomid 3wk PCT

I was wondering if those doses and cycle duration seem right, and if i should use an oral kickstart with this cycle and which one, or not because its all fast acting esters. And i was also wondering about Alin's Stealth injectables, they seem cheaper and easier to get through customs but i keep hearing the injections always have problems with pain and absesses, should i go with the stealth satchets for tren a and test prop?? Any help on this would be much appretiated.

cycle looks pretty good. since your running arimidex i dont think you need the NOLVA wks 1-8. Some oral winstrol would fit nicely.

[Alin]

This is gonna be my second cycle, and i was wondering if anybody could give me some input on it:
Wk 1-8 Tren Acetate - 100mg/EOD
Wk 1-8 Test Propionate - 150mg/EOD
Wk 1-8 .25mg Arimidex ED
Wk 1-8 10mg Nolvadex ED
wk 9-11 Nolvadex+Clomid 3wk PCT

I was wondering if those doses and cycle duration seem right, and if i should use an oral kickstart with this cycle and which one, or not because its all fast acting esters. And i was also wondering about Alin's Stealth injectables, they seem cheaper and easier to get through customs but i keep hearing the injections always have problems with pain and absesses, should i go with the stealth satchets for tren a and test prop?? Any help on this would be much appretiated.

The STEALTH lineup has been tried, proven,,and tested,,,for potentcy and purity. Some of the best AAS around period.

[wumba]

excuse my ignorance on the subject guys....but what is Cabergoline??

Search tren and prolactin, its very important to have cabergoline on hand for some guys, including myself.

[mmafighter6]

The STEALTH lineup has been tried, proven,,and tested,,,for potentcy and purity. Some of the best AAS around period.

Oh okay but have you used it yourself with good results and no injection problems? Im just wondering because i keep hearing all of these complaints of abscesses and horrible injection pain with this line, and i really cant afford to go to the emergency room for putting bad junk in me ya know.

[No-Go]

nothing wrong with stealth the pain has come from a few things

People Massaging after it has been injected
Injecting too quickly
Putting too much in one place
Not heating the oil up in the syringe
Not applying a heat source after the injection
Not injecting before you excersise the muscle group

That is a quick list to give you an idea although not all of them apply :)

[crfpilot14]

nothing wrong with stealth the pain has come from a few things

People Massaging after it has been injected
Injecting too quickly
Putting too much in one place
Not heating the oil up in the syringe
Not applying a heat source after the injection
Not injecting before you excersise the muscle group

That is a quick list to give you an idea although not all of them apply :)


I think all of the above are BS...the Iranian line of test does not cause that much pain regardless of if any of the above are followed. Whomever is producing the stealth line needs to reduce the amount of BA and other additives. The BD line used to cause me a lot of postinjection pain until I figured out that if you bake the vial at 200* for 30mins to boil off some of the BA. Has anyone tried this with the stealth stuff? I only use Watson test now and have absolutely zero pain.

[No-Go]

I think all of the above are BS...the Iranian line of test does not cause that much pain regardless of if any of the above are followed. Whomever is producing the stealth line needs to reduce the amount of BA and other additives. The BD line used to cause me a lot of postinjection pain until I figured out that if you bake the vial at 200* for 30mins to boil off some of the BA. Has anyone tried this with the stealth stuff? I only use Watson test now and have absolutely zero pain.

Bullshit? I have tried a few of the stealth lines and in my particular case injecting average amounts for a first time in relatively short time without heating oil put my quad out of action for 5/6 days, next i heated the oil injected less of the compound and slower and had no pain. It works. The iranian's are fine because of the BA content

[crfpilot14]

Bullshit? I have tried a few of the stealth lines and in my particular case injecting average amounts for a first time in relatively short time without heating oil put my quad out of action for 5/6 days, next i heated the oil injected less of the compound and slower and had no pain. It works. The iranian's are fine because of the BA content

Shut up Pig. Dont you have some bad guys to go catch? :D

[No-Go]

Oh how deeply that shockwave has run throughout my entire body!! I may not be able to sleep tonight because of the constant flood of tears

[crfpilot14]

LMAO...hope you dont move to Florida. :)

[Jays-gonna-get-huge]

excuse my ignorance on the subject guys....but what is Cabergoline??

Cabergoline is used to treat different types of medical problems that occur when too much of the hormone prolactin is produced. It works by stopping the brain from making and releasing the prolactin hormone from the pituitary.
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Since we're on the subject is it true that if you run an ai and keep estrogen down enough, you shouldn't have a problem with progesterone related gyno while using tren? I've read a lot of different views/opinions on how progesterone/prolactin gyno work.........I don't know what to believe does an MD or someone with rock solid info wanna chime in and explain the real deal?

[No-Go]

LMAO...hope you dont move to Florida. :)

Ahhh CRF you pulled my arm, can you be my GP? :D

[crfpilot14]

Ahhh CRF you pulled my arm, can you be my GP? :D


Sure....you are overdue for your rectal exam. :eek:

[crfpilot14]

Cabergoline is used to treat different types of medical problems that occur when too much of the hormone prolactin is produced. It works by stopping the brain from making and releasing the prolactin hormone from the pituitary.
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Since we're on the subject is it true that if you run an ai and keep estrogen down enough, you shouldn't have a problem with progesterone related gyno while using tren? I've read a lot of different views/opinions on how progesterone/prolactin gyno work.........I don't know what to believe does an MD or someone with rock solid info wanna chime in and explain the real deal?


Estrogen does provide the major postive control over prolactin synthesis and secretion, however, it isnt the sole reason why prolactin is produced and secreted. Other factors include thyroid-releasing hormone, gonadotropin-releasing hormone and vasoactive intestinal polypeptide. So, to answer your question, keeping estrogen under control will not necessarily keep prolactin under control if some other stimulus is removing the brakes of hypothalamic prolactin secretion. Vit B6, thyroid hormone and cabergoline (along with an AI) are the best supplements to use to combat prolactin...but keeping your estrogen levels under control will help.

[Jays-gonna-get-huge]

Thanks for your help.......I read your other thread too--great info!

[No-Go]

Sure....you are overdue for your rectal exam. :eek:

Whatever floats your boat :D

[foulmouthchicken]

I think all of the above are BS...the Iranian line of test does not cause that much pain regardless of if any of the above are followed. Whomever is producing the stealth line needs to reduce the amount of BA and other additives. The BD line used to cause me a lot of postinjection pain until I figured out that if you bake the vial at 200* for 30mins to boil off some of the BA. Has anyone tried this with the stealth stuff? I only use Watson test now and have absolutely zero pain.

Can you do this with IP Prop and won't the vial break from the heat?

[crfpilot14]

I used to stick the 10cc vial with an 18G needle in the diaphragm into the oven without issues...the glass will not break at 200*F...the melting point of glass is over 2000*F.