Terrible Pain

[italiangod]

I took my first three shots monday: right glute, right thigh, left thigh. All the sights are extremely painful, and I can hardly walk or flex my legs. I have only had this problem once before, and I have my gf who is a nurse inject me, so i know it wasn't the technique. She did all the shots on my last cycle and this didnt happen once: 75mg Tren ED, 750mg Iran Test, and 500mg BD DECA. The only other time i have had this problem with was BD Test E... I don;t know if maybe im allergic to the particular oil they use or something... Also, I got a terrible case of test flu today.... The shit is legit, but damn it hurts....

[yafu]

maybe some antibiotics to fight possible infection from the injections?

[Machola]

i had this from supertest 450 on first inject, the flu and pain both. the following week i cut it 50/50 with stealth test cyp and didnt have pain. now i can take it straight with no problems. my body adjusted to it.

[italiangod]

yeah.... I don't know... I don't want to just jump on anti-biotics if it happens not to be an infection... I think anti-biotics are immensely over prescribed.. I was also thinking that i may have overloaded my body with BA... I usually inject my test E 1 cc e3d... throughout the cycle, i know the half life is a week.. but i like this method far better for various personal reasons... This is the first time i have injected three cc's all in a matter of minutes, albeit different areas of my body.... my right leg and ass feel much better today, just a little lumpy... but my left leg is still full blown muscle pain... Gonna pop some flexeril (muscle relaxant) and use a heating pad.... hope it helps....

[kevin3987]

Just monitor & all should be fine;)

[golden_arm]

for me, if i ping my quads and then just sit around or even worse, go to sleep, im usually in pain for the next day of two. But if i ping in the morning or right beofre working out the muscle im pinning, no pain. Just my 2 cents

[yafu]

i was not suggesting you go on a lengthy cycle, but a zpack would not be a bad idea if symptoms persists, i got flu like symptoms the first time is did sustanon

[golden_arm]

i was not suggesting you go on a lengthy cycle, but a zpack would not be a bad idea if symptoms persists, i got flu like symptoms the first time is did sustanon

ah yes, good old "sust flu". I still get it, but usually goes away within first week.

[italiangod]

Allright, well today everything is fine.... left leg still hurts a lil though.... Today i decided to do all glute injects.... I can take the pain in the ass, not in my thighs.. (if i can bend my legs im still happy)... Strong test... Only week two and im feeling pretty sexy.... haha

[InkFiend33]

i was not suggesting you go on a lengthy cycle, but a zpack would not be a bad idea if symptoms persists, i got flu like symptoms the first time is did sustanon

ah Zpack!! the best anti-biotic... so easy... and effective

[italiangod]

Same as first week.... The inject sites have turned into huge painful lumps.... Now in different areas.... However, I think this is just something i am going to have to get used to.... I know the technique is on, the sterility is on, so it's gotta be the juice.... I better gain a good amount of this damn cycle... haha

And i wish my damn pills would get here!!

[cageorstreet]

Over the years some of us become sensitive to the BA used in the products. Others have a natural sensitivity. Many years ago 1-2 amps every 3 days of sustanon was the norm and never a problem.

My partners and I have got into the habit of cooking off some of the BA in all oils. This takes care of the flu sysmptoms and often the pain issue.

[italiangod]

I'm willing to try anything... How do i go about this.... I've had crazy concentrations of homemade tren that never gave me any problems.... But, who knows.... Like I said I will try anything!!

[Deepsea10]

I know this sounds like common sense but you need to massage the shit out of the injection site in those areas. Some people can get away without doing it but I personally have to rub and rub or else I will get sore at the site.

[flatblack]

definately cut the Test with another compound or sterile oil and u should feel a significant difference...quads are way too uncomfortable for me to pin ...try delts n glutes with a 25g pin, 1" and 1.5" respectively...also if yer getting a lump, yer gf may be injecting too fast.........

[Deepsea10]

definately cut the Test with another compound or sterile oil and u should feel a significant difference...quads are way too uncomfortable for me too pin ...try delts n glutes with a 25g pin, 1" and 1.5" respectively...also if yer getting a lump, yer gf may be injecting too fast.........

Bump to that. I would recommend 22G X 1 1/2" in the glutes though. 25 is good for shoulders but not for the glutes and at least a 1 1/2" needle to ensure deep penetration into muscle in the rear.

[flatblack]

Bump to that. I would recommend 22G X 1 1/2" in the glutes though. 25 is good for shoulders but not for the glutes and at least a 1 1/2" needle to ensure deep penetration into muscle in the rear. 22g is a big hole dude, but i'm kinda with ya...been doing 1.5" 25g in the glutes and ive gotta push like a SOB to get the gear out...i'm thinking about switching to 23 or 23.5g for the ass.......

[Deepsea10]

22g is a big hole dude, but i'm kinda with ya...been doing 1.5" 25g in the glutes and ive gotta push like a SOB to get the gear out...i'm thinking about switching to 23 or 23.5g for the ass.......

I used to run 21 x 1 1/2" Now that's a big whole. 23 is a good size. I just don't like smaller than that because as you stated, the gear is very hard to come out especially if it's a thicker mix. I'm kind of twisted though, I like the pain. It makes me feel alive. lol

[flatblack]

I used to run 21 x 1 1/2" Now that's a big whole. 23 is a good size. I just don't like smaller than that because as you stated, the gear is very hard to come out especially if it's a thicker mix. I'm kind of twisted though, I like the pain. It makes me feel alive. lol hahaha, sick aint we...ive trained on n off for about 6 years in muay thai boxing, n dont know i'm in a fight til i get hit...worst part is i kinda like it, wakes me right the fuck up....LOL

[golden_arm]

personally I love pinning quads, 22 guage 1" and bottom out everytime. was uncomfortable first cycle, but after thats its easy as pie! 23 guage takes forever to push oil out of and Im an impatient bastard! :D Also, I have a hard time holding the pin steady while aspirating/injecting when doing delts, and for me its the movement of the pin deep inside the muscle that causes pain next day.

[italiangod]

I personally love injecting... and this is the first time i havent done it myself... I use 22g 1 1/2in for everything.... Quads are the easiest... I can't really get to my glutes very well cause of my back...so it makes injecting back there pretty difficult... I used 23g for one cycle and i hated them... It took forever to draw up the oil and forever to inject!! I found the 22g needles are sturdier, sharper, and better in the long run. As per cutting this stuff, I don't know... I am already using three cc's and with the lumps taking a week and a half to go down fully, its hard to find new sites to inject....

burning through it.... hoping my body gets used to this damn product....

[espskillz]

I took my first three shots monday: right glute, right thigh, left thigh. All the sights are extremely painful, and I can hardly walk or flex my legs. I have only had this problem once before, and I have my gf who is a nurse inject me, so i know it wasn't the technique. She did all the shots on my last cycle and this didnt happen once: 75mg Tren ED, 750mg Iran Test, and 500mg BD DECA. The only other time i have had this problem with was BD Test E... I don;t know if maybe im allergic to the particular oil they use or something... Also, I got a terrible case of test flu today.... The shit is legit, but damn it hurts....

just be glad your not shooting supertest.

[fattcat]

i had really bad pain when doin test-e and tren, single pin 2cc in thigh. try using a heating pad it worked great for me.

[kevin3987]

Draw from amps with 20G' & switch pin to 25G & bury it IMO'

[flatblack]

Draw from amps with 20G' & switch pin to 25G & bury it IMO' there ya go, thats what i do....never draw with the same pin yer injecting with.........

[alphaj]

there ya go, thats what i do....never draw with the same pin yer injecting with.........

and inject slowly.

[lola26]

you people using 21g and 22g pins are just causing more scar tissue.

it has been rumored that balkan and stealth gear are one in the same. the pain is from the super high ba levels.

[kevin3987]

Bump! on the pin Gauge...

[Birdsandplanes]

You clowns (Just kidding) are killing me. 21g is large?!? Jesus man suck it up and stick that 18g in that glute or quad. It doesn't take a hour to get your half a ml of winny in and then you know your a somewhere between a man and girl then.

If your shit hurts that bad get out of the game, go for run for a mile, cut it with b-12, use a heating pad or get the old lady to massage one of your legs. They all help to cut the pain. Like some one said earlier it is the BA that is causing the pain. I'd rather have BA pain than a nasty welt from an infection. I'd rather have my shit hurt than have no pain at all which is along the same lines as taking heavy doses of tren without the cough. You know the shit is good when it happens.

Please guys leave the antibiotics alone most of you don't know a gram neg from a positive type bacteria is. Good aseptic technique is all you need. Have a another vet explain that to you if you don't understand because I just getting angry as hell explaining how you need to wash your disease infested paws before handling your gear. There are plenty of good threads out there.

I am not mad at anyone but all the AS boards for years have the same three gd threads about pin size, infection and my shit hurts "what do I do?" Over educate yourselves before you even take that first shot, it will save you a lot of hassle. BTW...I have never had a test mixture like sus or super that hasn't hurt. Just think of it as growing pains.

Peace

[flatblack]

You clowns (Just kidding) are killing me. 21g is large?!? Jesus man suck it up and stick that 18g in that glute or quad. It doesn't take a hour to get your half a ml of winny in and then you know your a somewhere between a man and girl then.

If your shit hurts that bad get out of the game, go for run for a mile, cut it with b-12, use a heating pad or get the old lady to massage one of your legs. They all help to cut the pain. Like some one said earlier it is the BA that is causing the pain. I'd rather have BA pain than a nasty welt from an infection. I'd rather have my shit hurt than have no pain at all which is along the same lines as taking heavy doses of tren without the cough. You know the shit is good when it happens.

Please guys leave the antibiotics alone most of you don't know a gram neg from a positive type bacteria is. Good aseptic technique is all you need. Have a another vet explain that to you if you don't understand because I just getting angry as hell explaining how you need to wash your disease infested paws before handling your gear. There are plenty of good threads out there.

I am not mad at anyone but all the AS boards for years have the same three gd threads about pin size, infection and my shit hurts "what do I do?" Over educate yourselves before you even take that first shot, it will save you a lot of hassle. BTW...I have never had a test mixture like sus or super that hasn't hurt. Just think of it as growing pains.

Peace u got left back in kindergarten, didnt ya?................:D

[Birdsandplanes]

LOL...yeah bro how did you know? Failed three times for anti social behavior. I'm 40 now and working on the 2nd grade now and the teachers are looking young and hot now :P

[flatblack]

LOL...yeah bro how did you know? Failed three times for anti social behavior. I'm 40 now and working on the 2nd grade now and the teachers are looking young and hot now :P

haha, well u know, it takes a sociopath to recognize another one........:p

[TriGuy]

IMHO, use the smallest pin AND smallest syringe you can. A 3cc syringe has a smaller barrel and longer stroke than a 5cc - this makes it easier to put more pressure on the oil, you can get the same oil through a smaller pin easier with better control. But beware the 25g pins, they bend too easy. For me 23s work great, no bruise, very little mark, glutes or delts

[Kg551_41]

Someone mentioned the use of B12 as a cutting agent. How is that mixed? I'm assuming 1ml to 1ml?

[tomcat1]

B12 as a cutting agant huh, how does that work?

[BigBuffPoppapump]

You can use sterile Cottonseed oil. I have got some but didnt really work to much. It helped a little.

[visionp]

I have been shooting 2 ml into the glute twice weekly with a mix of BP test c and BP eq. I found I had a hardening of the muscle around the injection point and pain for two to three days. This was for the first five weeks of my cycle.

I then decide to massage the hell out of the injection site post pinning for about a minute which has worked a treat and I now have no pain at all or hardening around the site.

Moral of the story massage post injection is crucial with certain products.

[SomeGuy]

massaged an inject of 1ml supertest and 1ml schering primo, now i have half a softball on my glute and bad pain.

[flatblack]

massaged an inject of 1ml supertest and 1ml schering primo, now i have half a softball on my glute and bad pain.

quick tip...never massage the injection site...............

[lunny]

quick tip...never massage the injection site...............

BUMP THIS!!!!! never ever

[InkFiend33]

BUMP THIS!!!!! never ever

bump bump////// never ever ...

[katsumoto]

Funnily enough I got the flu the week I started my course with supertest and NPP. Strange???

[lunny]

Funnily enough I got the flu the week I started my course with supertest and NPP. Strange???

The test flu sucks man

[katsumoto]

The test flu sucks man

Sure does man,had it for nearly two weeks. I just restarted my course of supertest and NPP along with Proviron. Goin well so far.