Getting Ready

[Ironweb]

I am preparing for my next cycle which I plan to order next month. Looking for a little feedback. My last cycle was my best. I plan on this being even better. First my current stats:

Height: 6’
Weight: 218
BF: 12%
Cycle experience: 4 Yrs
Types used: Dbol (never again), Test, Eq and Tren
Sides: I have no issues with gyno, little water retention, no acne and have ran up to 900 mg of test. I am lucky in that regard.
Goals: cut it up.

The cycle I am looking to run is as follows:

Wks 1-16 750 mg EW Test Enth
Wks 1-16 800 mg EW Eq
Wks 5-12 50 mg ED Winny
Wks 5-12 400 mg EW Parabolon or Tren A depending what is available
Wk 19 40 mg ED Nolva
Wk 20-21 20 mg ED Nolva

Usually people run the winny/Tren at the end. However that period should be during the peak months of summer and I want to get full reward for the fat burning and muscle hardning from it.

Any thoughts are appreciated. :)

[Ironweb]

I am going to give this a bump for anyone that would like to share their thoughts good or bad about the presented cycle. Thanks

[jstforme]

i cant say a whole lot becuase i havent even tried half of those compounds BUT 750 test Plus 800 eq, seems high, one or the other at that amount would be fine but put together that seems hiigh, especuially for the eq, 600 would be the highest i would go. the winny looks fine, IMO if your going to run parabolan i would then either change the testosterone to prop at that time or go down to 500 or 250/week on enanthate when you start, im sure youll be wanting to lean out a little and gain hardness, with 750mg enanthate, it will be a lot harder to do so. your probaly more than likely going to want to use hcg cus of heavy gear, i would use proviron instead of nolvadex throughout the cycle

[moondog]

Was just wondeing why you said dbol never again, i was considering incorporating some dbol on next cycle, just trying to pick your brain

[arnold jr]

Was just wondeing why you said dbol never again, i was considering incorporating some dbol on next cycle, just trying to pick your brain
I can't speak for "Ironweb" but I'm the same way, I absolutely hate dbol. It makes me feel very lethargic, and it bloats me to a point that is very uncomfortable. A lot of guys swear by it and if you have never used it you might give it a try. Just like all gear, everyone is different and everyone’s body is affected somewhat differently.

Arnold jr.

[Ironweb]

Thanks jstforme I was thinking about kicking the test down to 500. Never used hcg perhaps I will give it a try and see. I would consider prop if it came in stealth form when ordering time came. ;)

As far as the Dbol. It bloated me like no other. Felt more fat than anything. However that was the least of it. I got back cramps to where I could not hardly stand sometimes. Had to cut a few workouts short because it just :eek: . Once I stopped using it, it was :p .

Besides I am more into getting lean quality muscle these days. Worked my body weight upto 147. Do not want to get that heavy again but it was great to hit that goal and cut from there.

[jstforme]

wow 147 huh :p i know its a typo, im contemplating on whether or not to just go lean muscle for my next cycles, or have a complete mass phase winter, then cut in spring like im doing now. it truely is a debate for me, i know once i get to where i want to be this summer i wont want to gain fat again, but theres something about having that extra mass on your frame that ive always liked too
iron the reason why i mentioned hcg is becuase im sure from all of this gear your balls are going to shrink, of not on that much, how much do you think it would take to do the job, get what im sayin

[Ironweb]

No typo bro. Took me 3 years to get there. However I feel better at 218. The hard part is burning the fat off slowly that was gained getting there. I hear you about the shrinking nut sack. After it is all over tho it comes back. I think I am going to drop the test to 500.

[jstforme]

Ironweb im confused, 6'0 147, that sounds like someone who is very very ill? and you say that you "worked your body weight UP to 147" then you say "do not want to get that heavy again" and i said it must have been a typo and you say no. lol. im veeery cunfused here

[Ironweb]

Ironweb im confused, 6'0 147, that sounds like someone who is very very ill? and you say that you "worked your body weight UP to 147" then you say "do not want to get that heavy again" and i said it must have been a typo and you say no. lol. im veeery cunfused here

Ok have you ever wrote something and even tho it was wrong you still read it right in your head. Well dummy me that is what I did. I hit 247, not 147. Sorry man for that that would confuse me too.

[jstforme]

haha thanks for the clear up, we all have those days :D

[Tyree33]

Yeah man, I was about to ask u if you were a midget or a crackhead. :D

[GIO]

First I would not do 16 weeks is to long. This is how I would do it.
WEEK 1-4
50mg winny tabs every day or shots mon,wed,fri
750mg test enth a week
600mg eq a week

WEEK 5-8
50mg winny (same as week 1-4)
75-100mg tren mon,wed,fri
600mg test prop mon,wed fri

Clean up week 9-11
hcg 1000ius every other day
clomid 2 tabs a day
nolv 2 tabs a day

WEEK 12 start new cycle if you like

[Beetlejuice]

I am gonna bump jstfrme on his dosages for 500 mg test and 600 mg eq a week, and 50 mg winny a day. I guarrantee if you end that cycle with pure tren at 300-400 mg a week and run it so that it goes 3 weeks longer than the rest of your cycle you will be pleased with what you get after PCT.

[Ironweb]

Gio your suggesting running an 8 wk cycle with a 3 week rest. With eq being slow released that does not leave much time for it to kick in. Never tried that route have you had success with it?

Beetlejuice that is 2 for the 500 mg and 600 eq. Still run it 16 weeks only use the tren weeks 13-19? Start PCT the day after? I like the sound of that.