View Full Version : Keeping gains w/Low Test
Hey guys heres my deal:
Over the past year or two I have felt symptoms of low test, especially compared to others my age. Last year when I was thinking about starting AAS I had a blood panel done and my test level came back at 300ng. The doc said that was at the exteme low end of the acceptable range, but he said it wasnt a huge deal. I disagree of course:) but nothing was done about it.
I will be finishing up my 12 week cycle of BP Sust in 2 weeks, and am wondering whether or not I will be able to mantain my gains off cycle with low natural test.
Any thoughts?
ImaGetBigger
10-26-2007, 09:36 PM
given proper pct and diet keeping gains is certainly possible, how much did you gain?
2 weeks left and still gaining. 22lbs to the good so far.
crfpilot14
10-26-2007, 11:23 PM
Nope...guys with low test naturally have a hard time with recovery and keeping gains. You can try if you like.
Machola
10-27-2007, 07:27 AM
bump crf. give it a try. consider trt.
Nope...guys with low test naturally have a hard time with recovery and keeping gains. You can try if you like.
No thanks I think id like to loose my gains.
Any thoughts on what I could do to try and increase test levels? Keeping gains would be nice.
I dont know if I want/should get into TRT quite yet, although its been nice on cycle having this thing called a sex drive and being able to keep up with buddies without needing a nap.
crfpilot14
10-27-2007, 09:28 AM
You arent going to increase your already low testosterone without replacement. You can go on HCG but I would just get on TRT.
BlueVenom
10-28-2007, 07:20 PM
Unless you plan on staying on it, it's harder for you with low test level to keep what you have gained. Definitely cycle off properly.
SAWADEEKROB
10-29-2007, 07:35 AM
I concurr with crfpilot. If you have a low level of test to begin with it will be harder to maintain them after pct. If you are over or around 40 I would suggest the HRT route.
bulldawg305
10-29-2007, 08:58 AM
bump crf
Machola
10-29-2007, 10:35 AM
No thanks I think id like to loose my gains.
Any thoughts on what I could do to try and increase test levels? Keeping gains would be nice.
I dont know if I want/should get into TRT quite yet, although its been nice on cycle having this thing called a sex drive and being able to keep up with buddies without needing a nap.
from personal experience dont waste your money on tribulus. like crf said you could take high doses of hcg and force your body to produce more test. but i wouldnt recommend that. you run the risk of desensitizing the testes to LH permanently... i went on trt because of low test levels. only you know whats right for you. you have to weigh the pros and cons.
Thanks for all the input guys. I will see how I maintain for this my first cycle. If I cannot maintain the gains I will seriously consider TRT. I will be doing a standard PCT I dont believe in Trib or any of that crap it never worked for me when I was younger.
Seeing as how the doc would give me a script last time what should I do differently this time. I was thinking maybe have a screen done a couple weeks after last injection and before PCT? Do you think this would work? Any ideas welcome!
Machola
10-30-2007, 08:42 AM
i dont use a doctor for my trt. i self medicate. its cheaper and i dont have to deal with a doctor that thinks 200mg every 2 weeks is enough:mad:. most important thing is that you watch your liver and bp.
i dont use a doctor for my trt. i self medicate. its cheaper and i dont have to deal with a doctor that thinks 200mg every 2 weeks is enough:mad:. most important thing is that you watch your liver and bp.
Im fully insured so i figured I would try to make the most of my insurance, but I priced out a year of TRT using one of CRF's plans and it was alot cheaper than I expected. So I will definatly look into it depending on what I keep and my post cycle blood screen.
BlueVenom
10-30-2007, 05:31 PM
HCG can be ran to kill your test levels permanently? I never knew that.
crfpilot14
10-30-2007, 06:23 PM
Overuse of HCG can decrease the Leydig Cell's response to LH secreted by the pituitary. Nobody on these boards has seen or heard of it happening, however.
flatblack
10-30-2007, 06:28 PM
hey pilot, is yer new avatar an example of yer "bedside manner"...:D......remind me not to send my woman to u for a checkup;)
crfpilot14
10-30-2007, 06:32 PM
hey pilot, is yer new avatar an example of yer "bedside manner"...:D......remind me not to send my woman to u for a checkup;)
LMAO...sick man. Post pics of said woman. :cool:
flatblack
10-30-2007, 06:39 PM
fuck pilot, i'm a computer retard...just tried but dont know how:(
crfpilot14
10-30-2007, 08:11 PM
www.photobucket.com
Open account and load pics there. Then use the link to post here...
flatblack
10-30-2007, 09:55 PM
LMAO...sick man. Post pics of said woman. :cool:http://i46.photobucket.com/albums/f120/jaguar777/fatsunglasses-2.jpg this my honey pilot, be gentle with her....:D:D:D
datuca
10-31-2007, 12:42 AM
you never run short of milk, do u?
flatblack
10-31-2007, 12:45 AM
you never run short of milk, do u?she's a pearl necklace kinda girl...hehe
crfpilot14
11-01-2007, 10:10 AM
Dude, you are a sick fucker... :D
datuca
11-01-2007, 11:28 AM
she's a pearl necklace kinda girl...hehe
how about a jelly donut?
Siegfried
11-07-2007, 03:34 PM
it depends how much your natural test level allows you to keep, even if low, if you are yave not surpased your potential you will keep most, but even if high in natural test, if you surpass your potential you eventually will lose everything
flatblack
11-07-2007, 03:43 PM
Dude, you are a sick fucker... :D
hahaha, is that yer professional opinion?..............:D
supermatt
11-08-2007, 02:10 AM
Hey guys heres my deal:
Over the past year or two I have felt symptoms of low test, especially compared to others my age. Last year when I was thinking about starting AAS I had a blood panel done and my test level came back at 300ng. The doc said that was at the exteme low end of the acceptable range, but he said it wasnt a huge deal. I disagree of course:) but nothing was done about it.
I will be finishing up my 12 week cycle of BP Sust in 2 weeks, and am wondering whether or not I will be able to mantain my gains off cycle with low natural test.
Any thoughts?
That really pisses me off. Why can women in their 40's easily get estrogen prescribed to help them with menopause (reduced estro levels), but when a man in his 40's going through andropause (reduced test levels) wants some help the doctors won't do anything :mad::mad: My dad's gf takes estrogen and many of her female friends do too. And most of my friend's moms are on estrogen and progesterone too. Sexism is alive and well in modern society. Women take female hormones and nobody says shit, but if a man takes male hormones he gets arrested and goes to jail. !!!! :confused: This thread has really set me off.
I wish you good luck in your quest for TRT ;)
That really pisses me off. Why can women in their 40's easily get estrogen prescribed to help them with menopause (reduced estro levels), but when a man in his 40's going through andropause (reduced test levels) wants some help the doctors won't do anything :mad::mad: My dad's gf takes estrogen and many of her female friends do too. And most of my friend's moms are on estrogen and progesterone too. Sexism is alive and well in modern society. Women take female hormones and nobody says shit, but if a man takes male hormones he gets arrested and goes to jail. !!!! :confused: This thread has really set me off.
I wish you good luck in your quest for TRT ;)
Im not in my 40's so maybe that played into a bit.But if I am unable to keep my gains, and dont see any rebound in T levels in my post cycle screen then I will look closleyinto getting on TRT from Doc. Alin
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