spring/summer cutter wut do u think "deca/winny"

[juced_porkchop]

ok
i dont deal vary well with test tons of acne of low doses even soo......

for summer cutter/lean gain i waz thinkin this

deca 250-350mg wk1-20
test e 50-75mg wk1-21
winny 20-30mg for wk1-4& wk10-15
PCT- hcg 500iu2Xweek week 15-20 and nova 30/20/20/20

im not sher about the winny. i got it but never used it before. whould there be another way of fittin winny in there that u sugestthat may be better ???

dont want to up the test cuz of acne. and deca never gave me deca dick when i rane it alone

[juced_porkchop]

*bump

[No-Go]

Code 11

[Proudpapa]

I wouldn't try to cut w/ those compounds.Going to get some water.Get your diet in check and look into shorter acting esters.

[juced_porkchop]

u cancut on almost anything and i dont seem to hold water on deca nothing i notice anyway. i react well to deca. and my diet is in check this is just to ensure not to loos mucle. im not a fatty just want to tone it up a bit ferther o and i got clen i might use too.. any way i not used winny before so i want to know how u wouuld add it in .
ps.test dose is only to have some in there well on deca its basicly a deca cycle. wich i have run with no test for 12 weeks long time ago with no probs

[steak]

for cutting Id do a 9-12 week cycle of primo at 100mg/3x week, trenbolone 75 3xweek,
winny eod. clenbuterol 60mcg (3X 20mcg)/day, 2days on 2 off for 4 weeks, then come off for 2-3 weeks, you can replace primo with deca 200mg every 4th day. last 3 weeks before end of cycle finish primo or deca. also last final 6 weeks T3 50mcg/day. nOlvadex every day. this is what i did and i won the contest. diet, cardio, medium reps, hard training is a must.dont keep your carbs too low, no carbs=no energy

[lola26]

prop/eq/mast?????

[yafu]

test/eq/win
simple, easy, cheap, effective, in line with goals

[LeanMass17]

ok
i dont deal vary well with test tons of acne of low doses even soo......

for summer cutter/lean gain i waz thinkin this

deca 250-350mg wk1-20
test e 50-75mg wk1-21
winny 20-30mg for wk1-4& wk10-15
PCT- hcg 500iu2Xweek week 15-20 and nova 30/20/20/20

im not sher about the winny. i got it but never used it before. whould there be another way of fittin winny in there that u sugestthat may be better ???

dont want to up the test cuz of acne. and deca never gave me deca dick when i rane it alone

Have u ever considered running a DHT inhibitor during your cycle instead or taking such low does of test? In case you didnt know, DHT conversion is usually the culprit behind acne+hairloss. I think a DHT inhibitor incombination with some Accutane (or some other acne med) could allow you take highers doses of test without the sides.

[juced_porkchop]

Have u ever considered running a DHT inhibitor during your cycle instead or taking such low does of test? In case you didnt know, DHT conversion is usually the culprit behind acne+hairloss. I think a DHT inhibitor incombination with some Accutane (or some other acne med) could allow you take highers doses of test without the sides.

:D WUT!!!?! dht inhibitor?? i never herd of can u tell me some names so i can look n see if my source has them or can i get this otc ???
i am serching... now.. i hope u can help this why i dont like test other then that fuk it i would love it but i dotn liek test maybe that can chang and ill lover u forever lol

[juced_porkchop]

do u think zinc and/or saw palmetto would work for acne??

[No-Go]

saw palmetto is for the enlargement of prostate!

[juced_porkchop]

oops. lol .. well any way i herd nizoral shampoo is good to put on my back for 15 min then wash off every other day.. have u herd of this, cuzz it has 2%ketoconazole in it

[drob29]

Have u ever considered running a DHT inhibitor during your cycle instead or taking such low does of test? In case you didnt know, DHT conversion is usually the culprit behind acne+hairloss. I think a DHT inhibitor incombination with some Accutane (or some other acne med) could allow you take highers doses of test without the sides.

DO NOT use accutane on cycle. HORRIBLE idea.

[yafu]

you're all over the place, you should do a lot more research before considering AAS

[juced_porkchop]

you're all over the place, you should do a lot more research before considering AAS

wut do u mean?!??
i have done 2 yrs and i still read bout it atleast 10 hrs aweek on aas and such. i grow off not much aas i like to keep doses low. i know i liek deca i know i dont liek test i know i dont get deca dick even with out test yes thats right i did deca only and wazz good"waz first cycle from doc after my car accedent" i know that i get bad acne off test even low dose liek right now. so wut do u mean im all over the place??
only thing i want to know is abotu acne off test if i didnt get acne i wouldent hate test soo much. i barely bloat off it i aculy dont liek the higher sex drive"prob cuzz it harder not to cheat on gf"

[juced_porkchop]

i have anxiaty problems sumtimes so i wont be using EQ or tren altho tren seems vary good maybe in time.. n i know theres always more to learn i dotn know every thing thats why im hear

[No-Go]

DO NOT use accutane on cycle. HORRIBLE idea.

Bump this!!

[LeanMass17]

Check out Accutane bro, I highly recommend it, but its perscription so you will have to look hard to find it. Some sources that carry gear will carry Accutane because of its popularity, but dont use it while on cycle according to these guys

[juced_porkchop]

well ill read up about it more but from wut i have herd i dont know if im gonna like accutain with sides n mainly the liver thing but i will keep an open mind.. ima try the nozrol shampoo first thou i think..
ps. would it be cheaper to get from doc or net.. i know a cool doc will give me usaly anything i want only reson i dont get aas off him is cuzz its so dam expensiv.

[soldierb11]

take a look at tren/eq/masteron.
i dont think i got any anxiety sides when on that cycle

[No-Go]

Check out Accutane bro, I highly recommend it, but its perscription so you will have to look hard to find it. Some sources that carry gear will carry Accutane because of its popularity, but dont use it while on cycle according to these guys

Accutane blocks DHT while on cycle and it could end up opening up a hole kettle of fish!

[lola26]

accutane is poison! i have had terrible effects from it OFF cycle. running while on cycle is suicide.
as for the acne and gyno issue, letro at .25 ed works great for both.
also, bumping back up the prop/eq/mast cycle.

[LeanMass17]

Well let's be realistic here, some people are going to have much more adverse side effects to certain medications than others are. I agree that it isnt a good idea to take Accutane on cycle, but I know plenty of athletes who swear by it for everyday life. Obviously it would be better to try out other products that arent perscription before jumping to a med. I was under the impression that you werent getting results from any ance products. And I dont understand why Letro would help with acne...isnt it an anti-aromatizer, so wouldnt it just bump your test levels even more thus have a higher conversion rate to DHT?

[juced_porkchop]

iv also herd letro would help acne.. any way update!--
been using nozral shampoo for just over a week now and my skin is getting nice and dry using it about eod next week ima start only using it 2x a week cuzz it seems to dry it a lil much and i got letro on the way already so hopefully my pryers will be anserd and i can up the test n not look like an exploding oil fieldlol also using 1-2gram vitb5 and 200mg vitb6 a day, vitE. for skin

[LeanMass17]

Let me know if the Letro works bro

[juced_porkchop]

will do

[ronnie]

Go to the doctor and get some amoxicillin,for your acne.

[juced_porkchop]

amoxicillin seems to rilly fuk me up tummy, head , tierd cant do decent work out. but if al els fails i will in spring thanx for all the info.. thank god for thes sites . can u imagen 50yrs ago no net peeps tryin get ther info from the next guy"whom might be a dumb ass" or not being abul to ask wut on ya mind!!lol al my friends are stoners like i USED to be only a few work out and there girls so no 1 knows bout my aas use exept gf. any way im babling lol. :cool:

[blackson]

DO NOT use accutane on cycle. HORRIBLE idea.

It's a horrible idea to use with liver toxic steroids or if you have weak tendons, otherwise when you're on accutane you are required to have monthly blood tests so you can watch those to see how you are doing.

[Kaiser]

Why do you want to cut with Deca? That ester will hold water. You would get 10x better result trying to cut with NPP instead if you wanted to run nandrolone.

[LeanMass17]

If you don't want to use a short ester like NPP you could also go with EQ. Although its not as good for cutting as NPP, its definetly better than Deca

[juced_porkchop]

thanx for the input.. well i already have like 50ml of deca and about 60ml of testcyp stocked up still so i may use the deca but next spring i will prob use npp and see how much of a diff i see .. i dont seem to bloat up . well the first time with stealth testE, i think cuzz it a lil higher in dose and i waz at 500mg a week wich waz prob more like 600-700mglol. any way i seem to do good on 250mg test and decca right now so i have a feeling that i wont mind all that much bout deca as cutting tool . but i do keep in mind for the npp for sher! and thanx alot guys :-P

ps. i thought i saw a few things about winny and deca"progestin" good to put together cuz it may help if u get sides from prog.. is this tru??