Advice?

[Roadog]

Ive been out of the game for a while
Im a Welder by trade
Im 5-5
I weigh 200 im about 15% BF

Ive done 3 cycles ....I need to do a cutting cycle to lean me back out
Then Il bulk up again ive been on a diet for about a month now ive lost 10pds
Doing cardio 3x a week...Any advice on a good cycle would be great ...My last 3 were just bulk cycles ..Ive been lifting since I was 13 im 35 now when I started lifting I weighed 130 I was a skinny kid .....I didnt start messing with gear until I was about 32 .......Any advice on a cycle would be helpfull

.Thanks Roadog...

[Beetlejuice]

I am glad you have went back to the basics. You have a good diet, and are doing some cardio. If your first back to the scene cycle is for cut this is what I like. It has been awhile so it shouldnt take a lot for you to get what you are looking for. Just a few suggestions.

600 mg equipoise per week 1-10
50 mg oral winstrol per day weeks 1-6
50 mg proviron weeks 6-10
(If you feel like it add some testosterone enanthante 500 mg per wk 1-5 and\ or 300mg of tren E or hex weeks 6-10).

100 mg clomid wks 11-12 \ 40 mg nolva wk 11\30 mg nolva wk 12
100 mg clomid week13 \20 mg nolva wk 13




Ive been out of the game for a while
Im a Welder by trade
Im 5-5
I weigh 200 im about 15% BF

Ive done 3 cycles ....I need to do a cutting cycle to lean me back out
Then Il bulk up again ive been on a diet for about a month now ive lost 10pds
Doing cardio 3x a week...Any advice on a good cycle would be great ...My last 3 were just bulk cycles ..Ive been lifting since I was 13 im 35 now when I started lifting I weighed 130 I was a skinny kid .....I didnt start messing with gear until I was about 32 .......Any advice on a cycle would be helpfull

.Thanks Roadog...

[sTaTic]

tren will work wonders for you.... trust me

[Alin]

Ive been out of the game for a while
Im a Welder by trade
Im 5-5
I weigh 200 im about 15% BF

Ive done 3 cycles ....I need to do a cutting cycle to lean me back out
Then Il bulk up again ive been on a diet for about a month now ive lost 10pds
Doing cardio 3x a week...Any advice on a good cycle would be great ...My last 3 were just bulk cycles ..Ive been lifting since I was 13 im 35 now when I started lifting I weighed 130 I was a skinny kid .....I didnt start messing with gear until I was about 32 .......Any advice on a cycle would be helpfull

.Thanks Roadog...


Test Prop, Winny, Tren

[skoalands]

tren boldeone and anavar

[bbsweet]

Test should be in every cyle for men just in different mgs. Every and I mean every steriod suppresses natural test production.

[Beetlejuice]

I have had this discussion so many times it blows my mind. Test shouldnt be in EVERY cycle. It never will hurt the cycle, but cutting cycles are often best without test. If you want to use Tren you DO NOT need test. Tren is a fantastic base. I feel that Tren may in some ways be a better cycle base than test if you are looking to cut.


Test should be in every cyle for men just in different mgs. Every and I mean every steriod suppresses natural test production.

[bbsweet]

I have had this discussion so many times it blows my mind. Test shouldnt be in EVERY cycle. It never will hurt the cycle, but cutting cycles are often best without test. If you want to use Tren you DO NOT need test. Tren is a fantastic base. I feel that Tren may in some ways be a better cycle base than test if you are looking to cut.

OK, assuming you don't have a love life.

[erhard]

thats where Proviron comes in.

[sTaTic]

OK, assuming you don't have a love life.


Wrong!! My sex life is fine on it and after it. No test needed or anything else. Everyone is different

[bbsweet]

thats where Proviron comes in.

Proviron is a DHT derivative which can cause hair lose and prostate enlargement. So I ask, why not just do the test?

[Beetlejuice]

because test causes water retention as well as estrogen related problems like gyno. Besides if I am cutting I don't always want test. It can cause you to pick up fat. Use the proviron it blocks estrogen and will enhance the cut.


Proviron is a DHT derivative which can cause hair lose and prostate enlargement. So I ask, why not just do the test?

[bbsweet]

Isn't the water retention also from the raised estrogen levels and so both could be controlled by arimidex? Not trying to hound the same subject, just trying to understand this new to me way of thinking.

[Beetlejuice]

yes to both questions, I just want to say on a cycle where you are cutting hard though test is really out of place. It is a bulking agent and converts to estrogen worst than almost any other gear out there. A eq/winny/tren/proviron cycle is based almost purely on DHT and provides a leaner gain with out all the estrogen sides. The proviron is more for muscle hardening and fat/water release than it is sides (but it will help with them greatly). Test is wonderful and as I said it probably can't really hurt, it just isnt always needed.


Isn't the water retention also from the raised estrogen levels and so both could be controlled by arimidex? Not trying to hound the same subject, just trying to understand this new to me way of thinking.

[bod1ggity]

I am glad you have went back to the basics. You have a good diet, and are doing some cardio. If your first back to the scene cycle is for cut this is what I like. It has been awhile so it shouldnt take a lot for you to get what you are looking for. Just a few suggestions.

600 mg equipoise per week 1-10
50 mg oral winstrol per day weeks 1-6
50 mg proviron weeks 6-10
(If you feel like it add some testosterone enanthante 500 mg per wk 1-5 and\ or 300mg of tren E or hex weeks 6-10).

100 mg clomid wks 11-12 \ 40 mg nolva wk 11\30 mg nolva wk 12
100 mg clomid week13 \20 mg nolva wk 13

this is a beautiful little cycle... if would toss in 75mg or tren ace eod, but then agin im just a tren fan through and through.

[Beetlejuice]

I agree completely and I am somewhat of a tren monster myself.

this is a beautiful little cycle... if would toss in 75mg or tren ace eod, but then agin im just a tren fan through and through.